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    How come Lenovo doesn't offer SXGA?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by nickr, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. nickr

    nickr Notebook Enthusiast

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    IMHO, the only laptop that 1024 x 768 doesn't seem to big is 12". How come on 14.1" and bigger, Lenvo only offers super small 1400 or too big 1024 screen? Why not give us a choice of 1280 too?
     
  2. lazybum131

    lazybum131 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think any of the OEMs currently offer notebooks with SXGA LCDs (1280x1024/960). I think Sony had a few models but not anymore. Probably not enough demand for them. Majority of people are okay with XGA, and most of the rest are fine with SXGA+.
     
  3. nickr

    nickr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well almost all other manufacturers deal only in widescreen now. So you ubiqutously see 1280 x 800.
     
  4. masteraleph

    masteraleph Notebook Consultant

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    SXGA is typically an odd aspect ratio (at 1280x1024), which is probably why no one typically offers it. It's 5:4 instead of 4:3 (standard) or 16:10 (computer widescreen). On some occasions, SXGA can refer to 1280x960, but many programs with set resolutions don't offer that as a possibility- SXGA+ is actually more common.
     
  5. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    1280x1024 seems like a perfect resolution for something like the the x60, but they don't offer it. If they did I'd probably own one.
     
  6. Nooorm

    Nooorm Notebook Consultant

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    Because more choice means more complex manufacturing. Unlike a desktop, the screen is part of the form factor which really complicates things with each variable you add.

    It's likely that lenovo and other OEMs have heard from their customers that SXGA isn't a high demand, so they've focused on XGA, SXGA+ & UXGA for high end systems.
     
  7. nickr

    nickr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Interesting as a big reason why I'm not getting a Lenovo is because they don't offer a resolution that is in-between too big and tiny. Guess i'm not a typical customer.
     
  8. SkiBunny

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    I agree nick!! 1400x1050 is way too small on 14". Heck, even 19" LCDs have fewer pixels usually.

    I spent hours today comparing all the screens and models at ibm. I rejected 1400x1050 on 14.1, but try it on a 15" Flexview - that might be okay, at least I found it could be alright. The Flexview really helps insofar as the screen doesn't "wash out" like the non-flexviews.
     
  9. Nooorm

    Nooorm Notebook Consultant

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    Have you found this option in any OEM's laptop? I haven't spent a lot of time looking at Dells or HPs, but I didn't see the SVGA option in a standard or widescreen in either of their product lines.
     
  10. jagged

    jagged Notebook Consultant

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    I have pretty bad eyesight when I jumped from XGA to SXGA+, I thought I would never adjust sell to the smaller text. I gave my XGA T60 to my wife when I got the newer T60 actually.

    However, after several weeks using SXGA+, I find XGA just too big and lacking in space whenever I look at my wife's computer.

    So I'm thinking, although SXGA+ (or UXGA) text may look too small in the beginning, I'm sure everyone can adjust to it eventually.
     
  11. nickr

    nickr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nooorm: at dell I see pretty much only widescreen. But they offer WXGA and WXGA+ which are both below SXGA+. At my local compusa I saw most 4:3 screens to have 1280 x 1024. I only found one with 1400 x 1050. It was a 19" monitor.

    Jagged, are you nearsighted (I am) from so much computer work and reading. Do you find the smaller resolution contributes to or helps relieve nearsightedness?
     
  12. jagged

    jagged Notebook Consultant

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    nickr, yup, I'm nearsighted too.

    My glasses jumped from 100/75 during highschool to around 200/200 now after 10 years. I also suspect that the main cause was staying too long in front of computers.

    Hmm...since I can get more things done with SXGA+ screen, I guess I think it relieves more of my work a bit? While text is smaller, it is also much sharper so its not so bad. I just dim the screen a bit when my eyes get tired.
     
  13. SkiBunny

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    Hmm, what size is your SXGA+ screen?
     
  14. stimp1000

    stimp1000 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm right there with you, nick. I've always thought that SXGA would be the perfect resolution for a 14" or 15" screen.

    Manufacturers make 17" and even 19" desktop LCDs at SXGA resolution almost exclusively but somehow think that cramming more dots into less space works well for a notebook.

    I think that Apple's got it right when it comes to notebook screen resolutions. While most manufacturers offer WXGA and WSXGA+ for 15.4" widescreens, Apple offers only one resolution: WXGA+. And for 17" widescreens, instead of WXGA+ or WUXGA, they have WSXGA+.

    Instead of having one ridiculously low resolution and one ridiculously high resolution, why not just have one happy medium? Of course, they'd never make any money on screen upgrades - even though it might actually be the best solution for end users.
     
  15. SkiBunny

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    Here here! ... I'm with you stimp and nick

    (excuse the mee-too post, but i think there's strength in numbers on this issue!)
     
  16. jagged

    jagged Notebook Consultant

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    I have the 14" T60 and use a 17" external LCD monitor in the office so its not so bad.

    I bring it around everyday and carry it with me when travelling and although I wish my T60 was lighter, I figure that I wouldn't be comfortable with a 12" (had a Toshiba Portege before).
     
  17. Amn

    Amn Notebook Geek

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    The better resolution, the better. Simple as that. Dont blame LCD manufacturers, blame Microsoft Windows stupid display output inflexibility.
     
  18. SkiBunny

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    May i ask (you dont have to answer haha)... how old are your eyes??