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    Issue with T410/T510

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by hceuterpe, May 5, 2010.

  1. hceuterpe

    hceuterpe Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry for similar worded post earlier..

    I posted a similar message here to see if T400 owners were having a similar issue which they are not:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/481594-favor-t400-t500-owner.html

    Could someone with a T410/T510 do the same in their BIOS and report back if it works or not? This would be a huge help to me. I think there's a BIOS problem with HDD passwords and our machines.
     
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    pstrisik Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a T510 with a FDE disk and BIOS HDD password. It works fine with standby/resume. Win7Prox64.
     
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    Did the FDE come with your T510, or did you purchase it seperately? If it's seperate, did you get it from Lenovo?
     
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    Ugh, I think this has to do with me loading up Lenovo's installation on the HDD that came with it, then removing that HDD and installing my FDE drive and re-installing with a different version of Windows 7 (non-OEM).

    pstrisik: Let me guess, you imaged the HDD that shipped with your system onto the new FDE drive, therefore using the OEM Lenovo Window 7 that shipped?

    I think I might know what my issue is...
     
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    pstrisik Notebook Evangelist

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    You sir are correct! I bought a Seagate Momentus 7200 500GB FDE drive from Newegg. I seem to recall that Lenovo uses the same model in 250GB, I might be wrong. I imaged the entire factory disk, all three partitions, and restored onto my new disk.

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    Let me guess: The model on the drive is the Seagate ST9500421AS?

    I suspect the factory install of Windows 7 had some sort of configuration that made sleep resume work that I otherwise left out when I did a fresh install. Possibly the TPM (security chip) along with CSS (those two are integrated) are managed somehow to make this work for you. There are a quite a few limitations with sleep/standby on third-party FDE software because the HDD FDE drives relock themselves when your machine cuts power to the drive. When you put the system to sleep, it of course cuts power to the drive.
    I had a bad feeling Lenovo did something silly and whitelisted their FDE drives, too. It's good to know, this isn't the case.

    I just hope this works when I try to load the factory install and reset the security chip in the BIOS. Good thing I opted for the Professional x64 version instead of going cheap (and that I made the recovery discs!). I wonder if the SLIC of their OEM installs is what makes this work...
     
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    Hey gang, if you intend on using BIOS passwords in your T-series, do NOT also activate your TPM. There were a few settings in there as well that I unchecked/cleared/reset. It appears BIOS passwords run perfectly fine when the TPM is set to "Inactive", and after doing some in-depth research, it appears the only real reason why you want to actually activate TPM is to run bitlocker (which its need is mutually exclusive and otherwise redundant to BIOS passwords which is set in Thinkpads to secure FDE hard drives/SSD).

    Supposedly there was a fix in a newer BIOS version for some resume issue. Though, I don't think this was related to my issue. I managed to miss the newest version somehow (I applied 1.18 earlier, but for some reason it didn't stick). However setting this fixed my issue even in 1.15.

    The moment I made this change, sleep, hybrid sleep, interrupted hybrid sleep (resuming from hibernation file), and pure hibernation all work fine, instead of hanging before.

    Thanks for everyone that tested this. Saved a lot of time, especially in downtown with potentially going to a service depot to get it fixed. Too bad Lenovo Thinkpad phone support had no ideas when I called...