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    Leaks about new interesting Thinkpad, launching this week.

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by NorOle, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. NorOle

    NorOle Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the link, even though I didn't see "fanatic" word in his post...
     
  3. NorOle

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    Nope, not in his post. It's improper use of exlamation marks, it's more what I tend to be called whenever people ask me about the 7-row usb ultranav keyboard I carry around, and then promptly lecture them on the failings of modern 6-rows :)
     
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    If you read what lead_org actually wrote you'll see that no T1/W1 design ever existed...a classic Internet hoax that one was.


    No. He's not trolling whatsoever.
     
  5. NorOle

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    Yeah, I noticed, but I still refuse to let go! I'm excited about what this is all about though. I have dreams about qxga.
     
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    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

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    Well, unless you have an outrageously good eyesight, QXGA is quite pointless until the scaling in Windows - and even more so in related non-MS software - reaches the Mac level at the very least...
     
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    An IPS 3.5 pound 14" SXGA+ or five pound 15" UXGA ThinkPad with stick and proper buttons would be very tempting.
     
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    I find the resolution on my Surface Pro 3 to be very useful! :)
     
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    very useful indeed.
     
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    Teaser!!!
     
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    At QXGA, scaling problems shouldn't be too bad.
     
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    Argh! Suspense is killing me! You mean I don’t have to buy a Mac to get 16:10 or better?
     
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    I wasn't happy with it whatsoever...there's a *ton* of software that doesn't scale properly. Not Lenovo's fault by any stretch of imagination.
     
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    Guesses no announcements this week due to the bad PR from the adware installations
     
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    ^^^^^^^
    ROTFLMAO.

    Then again, if the product itself is interesting enough it might just kill the adverse effects of the previous bad PR...
     
  17. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

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    This supposed product (of which I know nothing of) is aimed at a different target group (ThinkPad fandom) than people who might buy Superfish-infected Lenovo craptops. It is not of any concern to them, at least in theory.
     
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    Still - I refuse to support a company that's putting huge security holes in their PCs out of the box, period. I get that cheap consumer stuff is full of bloatware, but why did they ever think that adding a root cert and opening a huge hole soon to be exploited was acceptable by any standard? I used to like Lenovo, but with this and other issues I've had with them as of more recently, I'm done with them. Looks to be the same for others at work.
     
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    Do you really think they knew that it would open a security hole? They just didn´t investigate the software before they did put in on their consumer systems. Which is very bad and lazy, but not an evil intend. Its the cheap money hunt, cause they got some money for every machine with SuperFish on.

    They are not that stupid. If they wanted to spy, there are MUCH more subtle ways to do so, then this. They win nothing and loose big time reputation, which was forseeable.
     
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    I'm almost certain that they DID know. And if by some miracle they didn't, then whoever signed off on allowing the aforementioned software to be installed needs to be fired. Yesterday.

    I agree, and that's why I wrote what I did in my previous paragraph.


    True.

    Maybe all of those government agencies worldwide were not paranoid without reason after all.

    What I find interesting is found in a post that an old friend of mine - an IBM retiree and a *staunch* Lenovo defender - wrote on TPF in regards to his T540p...


    Source: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=116934

    While I don't know what *exactly* he had deleted from his ThinkPad, it does make me wonder whether the whole incident affected only the non-premium offerings of our favourite brand...
     
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    I too have found these registry values on my Yoga 3 Pro. 5 registry keys inside the Internet explorer folder. One of them is called "Superfish", another one links to the links to this site (the value is litteraly a link): http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=211979

    Seems like an internal compatibility patch notice inside the IE. No other trace of superfish on this preload (Yoga 3 Pro isn´t in the list of the affected devices, although this one was made in November 2014).

    Well, maybe. We probably never are going to know whats really going on there. It might be that Lenovo is spying, but then I wonder why they still were allowed to buy IBMs X-Server business. It might be for the reason: Lenovo is mainly not based in the US, and not controllable for the NSA or the other 5 eyes agencies...as I mentionend, we propably never going to hear the true reason.
     
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    What's that sale got to do with anything? And who would stop Lenovo from purchasing such a business?
     
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    The US governement, who use at least some IBM servers for their critical infrastructure? They were investigating a few months, which delayed the deal: http://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-lenovo-tackle-security-concerns-over-server-deal-1403733716

    But finally did allow it to happen: http://datatrend.com/optimize-it/u-...oves-ibm-and-lenovo-x86-business-transaction/ If they have real evidence that Lenovo is spying, why should they allow it? They could have just said "No, you won´t get the Server business"
     
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    ^^^^^^

    I don't mean to get political but that was all "about face", really.

    One doesn't deny a sale of *anything* to the company which is in large part owned by the same entity that owns $1.25T of your debt...

    With that being said, it really doesn't matter to me. I've written off my personal privacy a long time ago and that had absolutely nothing to do with Lenovo.

    Now, let's see that "new and interesting" ThinkPad that has been the talk of the web lately...
     
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    I must admit to being a little disappointed about the lack of announcement so far. Hopefully it comes next week! (And, hopefully, it's not some limited edition for $3000!)
     
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    The only "limited edition" that I'm aware of - which was not much more than a leather-bound X61 - was selling at $5K.

    I wouldn't expect the upcoming machine to be an inexpensive one. Not in the least.
     
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    Before this rumor hit, I was hoping to replace my T61 at the end of the year. That said, if the specs are nice, I'll probably bite. Hopefully we'll all find out soon.
     
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    Well...you may just want to hold on to it for the time being. Get a couple of replacement bits and pieces, just in case.

    While I'd positively love to be pleasantly surprised by this upcoming machine and have funds available for something with a price tag from the IBM era, I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    I too have been looking to replace my current FrankenPad T60p. I was thinking I'd go with one of the T450 variants now that the trackpoint buttons have been restored, but I'd be very pleased if this special offering turned out to be some sort of throwback to the past with modern specs. Seems unlikely though.
     
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    Kinda figured nothing was going to get announced last week. Now we see if it happens this week, though any Lenovo news cycle may get crushed if Apple really does surprise the masses tomorrow.
     
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    Take a look at this - this is on my HP machine, with my own clean install of Win7. No factory images whatsoever. And bofa's site is secured with verisign in both IE and Chrome. No idea what this came from.

    Edit: The fwlink talks about some compatibility fix. Maybe just a routine Microsoft Update then. Note that this machine hasn't had Windows Updates run in over a month.
     

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    This does not mean you have Superfish installed—it’s just Microsoft’s way (from a few years ago) of making certain Superfish didn’t crash IE if you had it installed. That said, this is entirely off topic (HP?!?) and unrelated for the thread.
     
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    Whatever great machine they come up with, I hope it survives at least one release cycle until Skylake.
     
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    I hope they announce that it will be using Skylake—Broadwell is dead ;) !
     
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    I find the possibility of this whole thing quite remote. One random new reddit account says to expect a super duper special announcement about some fantasy 4:3 Thinkpad. The date of the announcement has come and gone, that reddit account stopped posting as quickly as it started, and there is zero evidence or confirmation from any other source whatsoever that there is going to be any sort of special Thinkpad released any time in the near future. On top of this, why would anybody preempt an official announcement by leaking a huge secret, but then claim that they are withholding further details until the release? On top of this, the new computer would need a 4:3 screen. Manufacturing, testing, and certifying a new screen like that would be impossible to keep secret, yet there is no known new screen that can be potentially used in such a computer.
     
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    You can say anything you want on the internet.
     
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    I guess this was just a ThinkPad ruse—oh well. As usual, little to note in the ThinkPad world—if you want 16:10 or better, get a Mac :/ .
     
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    16:10 yes - but not 4:3 :D

    Seems there is a little delay on Lenovos side...
     
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    Is someone going to spill the beans this week?

    Rumors drive us nuts. :)
     
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    You've been around long enough to remember the "15,000 IPS screens" story, right?

    Let's hope it doesn't end up the same way this time around.
     
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    This week seems unlikely...because MWC is the topic for Lenovo right now.

    Next week there is a better chance... :)

    I think SuperFish and MWC delayed the whole thing...
     
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    you will all get a chance to give feedback soon.
     
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    Take my money!
     
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    Feeling charitable today, aren't we? ;)
     
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    For those of you who can’t wait for Lenovo to get their heads out of their *ss and produce notebooks that do 16:10 or better, Google just updated their Pixel, which does 3:2 (more at http://www.google.com/chromebook/pixel/). No, it won’t run Windows, as far as I know (I believe it will run Ubuntu Linux), but the screen is beautiful and it’s not the 16:9 crap that Lenovo champions/keeps feeding us.
     
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    lol when did thinkpads ever had great looking designs? They are plain Unpleasing to look at ,but than again you buy them for their functions not their looks.
     
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    I like the look of the ThinkPad—classic no-frills black—and most of us do! I just want a screen that’s optimized for getting work done—not some 16:9 “FHD” screen that’s ideal for watching movies!
     
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    Ironically, many movies are in 21:9 anyway. I believe this is what you call market failure. Movies in 21:9 but hardly any screens to support that. And people who require 4:3 and the likes get left out all together.
     
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    Different directors use different aspect ratios. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014) is filmed in three different aspect ratios within the same movie.
     
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    Define "soon" :)
     
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