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    Lenovo IdeaPad Y500 and Y400 Announced - Dual Graphics Capabilities

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Andrew Baxter, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. greye05

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    This should be great, heavy gaming in sli and college with an extra battery. But i wonder would we have to upgrade the power supply or will the gpu include one.
     
  2. voozers

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    I'm pretty sure it depends on which configuration you pic. It'd probably cost more if you deicde to splurge for a second battery (+$50) or gpu (+ $200).
     
  3. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    if you wanted the latest and greatest, you would've bought something with a gtx680m.

    that thing is more than double the performance of the 650m
     
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    "latest and greatest from Lenovo and less than $1500 or so."
     
  5. Quix Omega

    Quix Omega Notebook Evangelist

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    The GTX 680m is fantastic but you can't get one in a system less than 2" thick or under about 8lbs. Laptops are all about compomises and while I might be able to compromise on ~6lbs and 1.3" thick those heavy gaming systems are too big.

    Anyway, you can't really compare this to the Y580 directly because it will be a lot more money, particularly with the second GPU.
     
  6. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    While most certainly heavier and thicker than the Y500 series, its really nowhere near your numbers.

    Sager 9150 (with 680m) is 6.83lbs and no thicker than 1.69".

    I would be wlling to bet than most people could not actually tell the difference between 6lbs and 6.83lbs reliably.

    The difference in how light your pocketbook became you probably would notice. The 680m is not cheap. :)
     
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    Once up to 6lbs its probably a moot point anyway but if one is traveling a lot that is actually a pretty substantial difference and yes most people would notice it. (Granted most people would still live with it, but 1/2lb and up is noticeable if you are carrying a bag.)
     
  8. Quix Omega

    Quix Omega Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not a Clevo fan, I do a lot of typing and their keyboards are the worst on the market. I'm also not interested in any of the big and heavy gaming rigs, I'm looking for something a little more portable.
     
  9. greye05

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    Hello, is there any new rumors. I NEED MORE information I'm dying to know more why cant they release a video or something for a review i want more details. Any one has any.
     
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    Quix Omega Notebook Evangelist

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    Man, why doesn't the Y500 have the same carbon fiber pattern on it?! It looks so dull with just the Y580 metal finish--it actually looks cheaper than the Y400. That wouldn't even be a problem if the Y400 didn't only come with a crappy low-resolution screen! Why are you so asinine, Lenovo? Why can't they just get it right with these gaming systems?
     
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    I think that's because they don't have switchable graphics? I would guess they can't use Optimus because they are SLI capable. That along with just a 6-cell battery would make the battery life pretty low. We haven't seen the GT 655M either so we don't know what its abilities are yet.
     
  14. kingbee13

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    maybe, 3 cell would be a tiny battery but the 655m will most likely be the same silicon as the 640m 645m 650m and 660m with different clocks and either gddr3 or gddr5 Nvidia mobile GPUs are a confusing
     
  15. greye05

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    When do you guys think pre-orders and a hands-on or review video will come. I have $1600 in the bank waiting for this baby. This is the cofiguration i will like to chose if posible:
    Quad Core i7 2.3
    8-16gb ram fine with 8
    1tb mechanical hdd for storage
    128gb MSATA 6gb/ps for os and games
    1080p screen
    Dual cards set up
    and at least 4-5 hours of battery life with only on gpu. I hope this has optimus i need this for colage and EXTREEEMEEE GAMIINGG!!!!hahaha
     
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    Just talked to a representative and he confirmed that its gonna be out early November. :D. He also mentioned the 14 inch will come with a backlit keyboard.
     
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    Early November...great...in September they said early October.
    I hate when they do that. If I knew back then I would probably got something else. Is it so difficult for company like this, to figure out that one month is or is not enough before a release?
     
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    Yea it sucks, I thought it would be late october, hopefully they will be out by October.
     
  19. KernalPanic

    KernalPanic White Knight

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    Reality check time.

    For reference, a single can of your favorite beverage is somewhere between .55 and 1 lb. (depending on which one)
    Pick up a can of soda pop... now lift a can of beer. How many of you can actually guess which one is which reliably?
    Now put the same can in a bag of some sort both in your hand and then your shoulder.
    :)

    Even in the hand most people won't notice as its so far below their threshholds. The 6lb laptop will seem the same as the 6.83lb for most reasonably healthy adults.

    On the shoulder in a bag this is even LESS noticeable as human shoulders are much stronger.
    They let crippled people with injuries like broken shoulders lift up to 15lbs without restriction.

    Let's face it.... the 0.83 lbs isn't really worth worrying about. The minute you start worrying about that extra "can of pop" worth of weight, its time to seek medical attention.


    As for the 655m... it might have slightly different clocks, but I would guess the only real difference is SLI support. (as far as I know the 650m does not support SLI)
     
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    Great find! too bad i dont understand one word hes saying. I wonder how he got his hands on one of these...
     
  22. NapalmDeath

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    What the hell is he saying? I thought English was taught in all developed nations?

    4.5 lbs would have been amazingly light, the MBP 15" retina is 4.5 lbs.
    To shave that 1 lb, add +$600

    It's coming out early Nov. to coincide with the Windows 8 launch in a couple days.
    Every review says Windows 8 sucks. I doubt Lenovo will offer alternate OS releases.
     
  23. ibmthink

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    You can install Windows 7 with the Windows 8 COA. ;)
     
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    Are you talking about me? I Think you thought i couldnt read his post. What I meant was the video he linked was all in Spanish.
     
  25. greye05

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    Any new info
     
  26. greye05

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    I find this quite offensive man, English may be one of the easiest languages to learn but that does not mean that all Latins or Spanish speaking people have the opportunity to lear it. More importantly the english they teach at public school is crap i learned from reading subtitles in movies. Why dont you learn Spanish? I may not know english very well, but i can understand two of the primary language on earth. Learn more and do some research before you say something stupid english is not the best language of the world.

    regarding the envy i do hope they bring it back If not well i hope is at a good price in amazon
     
  27. cotolay

    cotolay Notebook Evangelist

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    I think he meant for the english thing to be a joke, but it came out bad. Haha.

    I think the release date for these notebooks will be right after windows 8 release on October 28.
     
  28. tyranimo

    tyranimo Notebook Geek

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    Damn!

    I just ordered the Y580!

    You think I should cancel and see how this one turns out?

    It states that it only has GT555M though. What do you guys think?
     
  29. alathon

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    The site says 655M I don't know what you're looking at: "NVIDIA® GeForce® GT655M 2GB supports the latest DirectX® 11 games and HD video editing"

    As for your Y580, if you just ordered it then it will probably take a few weeks for it to even ship out so you have some time to cancel it anyway. I would just wait unless you're keen to get this one.
     
  30. tyranimo

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    Ooops, I meant 655 instead of 555!

    And yeah, my Y580 JUST shipped yesterday. I guess someone up there doesn't want me cancelling. Ugh!
     
  31. alathon

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    Ah that's too bad! Well at least you'll still get a Y580 which is not half bad ;). Anyway I chatted with a Lenovo rep today that claimed the Y400/500 will be available on the US site in the third week of November. Hopefully we won't have any more delays and the price will not be too high.
     
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    Ok I saw the Y500 specs on the site and I am FURIOUS! Suppose to come with 655m graphics 1920x1080 display, and start at $799, its only 650m, 1366x768 (!!!!!) and $1149?!?!
     
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    Hey guys I suggest you check out the US Lenovo site because they just updated and added the Y400 and Y500 models with prices. And.. the results are disastrous. The prices are just far, far too high for what they offer and they have very little model variation. There are absolutely no 1920x1080 screens on any of the models for either laptop. The base Y400 costs 1249.00 and there is NO SLI MODEL at all. The Y500 is even worse because while the base model is 1149.00 the SLI model is 1549.00 all still with a crappy small-resolution screen.

    Lenovo is out of the damn minds with these options and prices. At 1.5k you can get a Sager equipped with a 7970M which will absolutely destroy SLI'd 670m's let alone SLI'd 650m's. It's a joke. Maybe these prices are errors or something but if they're legit then I'll go ahead and call this a flop. I can't imagine who would want to put up with an SLI configuration that under-performs a single GPU configuration at the same price. Plus the Y500 isn't exactly slim or light so there is no form-factor advantage either. Whoever thought this would work should be fired (and hung :mad:).

    Like the above poster I am frankly disgusted with this and will not be looking forward to this series anymore unless these prices are erroneous.
     
  36. lolpierandom

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    Look at the pre-sale prices of the Y480 and Y580- they're about the same.

    I think Lenovo is just looking to clear up their old stock a little before they put these on discounts.

    Kinda sucks that the Y500 doesn't have FHD though.
     
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    Maybe you're right but I don't understand the logic of pricing in an echo chamber where you have no competition. In reality they have competition and there is no good reason to buy a Y400/Y500 at those prices, period. IMO without lowering their prices AND offering better screens they cannot hope to compete. Plus the Y400 does not even have an SLI model which is just silly if you're trying to differentiate it from a Y480. What is the meaningful difference between a Y480 (which now has a 650m) and a Y400? Ultrabay? Really?

    Yeah it's very frustrating as someone who was looking forward to it. This series had a lot of potential but it seems to be wasted entirely.
     
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    relax. you're overreacting.

    I bet eventually they will update the page with the full line up and options.
    But if they don't, this is one massive failboat. gt650, even more so gt655 SLI, is overkill for 1366x768.
    and what's up with the 16gb ssd. That's useless. You can't even fit the OS on there, so i'm assuming windows is installed on the hdd.


    high prices are to be expected. Those are all retail prices. Average discounts are usually $400+, so the lowest model should be $750 or less in no time.

    and I knew this would be way over $1000 haha
     
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    In Sweden a webshop listed the Y500 with SLI 650M 2GB (GDDR5), Full-HD LED 15.6 (Glossy), 8GB RAM 1600mHz, 1TB HDD + iSSD 16GB and of course the Quad i7. Estimated time in stock is 4th of December. WEBHALLEN.com - Lenovo Y500 - Core i7-3630QM / 8GB / 1TB + 16 GB SSD / 2 X GT 650 2GB / 15,6" Full HD / Windows 8

    8999 SEK (priced logged in) is $1343 converted into US dollars. This is bargain-price for being Sweden since it has SLI 650M, remember that we have high taxes so you should knock off a couple of hundred dollars in "your price" ($1050-1100-ish). Inwaiting the first review :)
     
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    now that info is getting out on these models - does anyone know how this SLI thing works with the Y500?

    1. Does it double the GPU numbers?
    2. Do you also have a HD4000 and graphics switching (I'm guessing not with the low battery life)?
    3. Is it two 650m's?
    4. What do you have when you pull out the ultra bay - is it still a 650m?
    5. Will there be some kind of bottleneck with the SLI ? I can't imagine double the performance on a laptop - wow! It should would make it somewhat future-proof in terms of gaming requirements.

    Also - would you buy this over the y580? If there was a discount down to $1,000 (y580 price) it would be a no-brainer.

    Lastly - I would like to run Linux - but I see that the nvidia is still not supported unless you install a hacked version of bumblebee (and it still sounds like battery life suffers in Linux due to power/video issues). I can't image trying to get SLI going in Linux....

    Thanks!
     
  44. dkris2020

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    Honestly, even if the screen wasn't as good, I'd get over the Y580, because this has so many customization options with the ultrabay and the design looks so much better without too much compromise.
     
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    Sweeeet FHD! What does wedge mean?
     
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    If you like the design, go for it, if you want max performance for the money, get the Y580. I like the design so I'm going with this.

    BTW: how better is the 3630qm vs the 3632qm? Is it worth the $100?
     
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    Really lenovo screwing up such a perfect 14" laptop wit low res screen... Some tablets are using 2560 x 1600 pixels with 300 pixel density, and now some manufacturer is still sticking with the low 720p... A tablet having 4 times more pixels really....
     
  49. dkris2020

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    This has been a constant for lenovo's 14" laptops, unless it gets really low ratings for the display, they won't change that trend.
     
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    chat session with lenovo sales rep. i am still confused??

    Please wait while we connect with you with a Lenovo Chat Representative.
    You have been connected to *Damien H.
    *Damien H: Thank you for choosing Lenovo Sales Chat. I’m Damien, your sales chat representative. My Rep ID is 2900712831. How can I help you today?
    ram: I was looking into the new y500 series and there were a few things that i was not sure about.
    *Damien H: What are your questions?
    ram: does all models have the ultrabay feature or just the sli version?
    ram: if i get one with just the nvidia gt650m (not sli) will i be able to purchase the other one nvidia card later to enable sli?
    *Damien H: Yes you will be able to do that
    ram: i don't see the ultrabay accessories for sale, how will i be able to purchase them?
    *Damien H: What model are you looking at
    ram: IdeaPad Y500 Laptop - 954135U, i was wanting to purchase another nvidia card (ultra bay thing) later to enable the sli. but i don't see the ultrabay accessories on sale anywhere on the site.
    *Damien H: Yes that is correct there is no accessories for that model yet
    ram: will they be available later for purchase by themselves?
    ram: i mean just the fan, or just the graphics card?
    *Damien H: No they will not be able to sell it separate
    ram: so basically if i want sli enabled, i will have to purchase the sli enabled model. and other models will not be sli compatible at all?
    *Damien H: Yes you would have to purchase that model
    *Damien H: Were you looking to buy today?
    *Damien H: What will you be using the computer for?
    ram: i was trying to make an informed purchase, i am still debating on which one to get (sli or single card). the advertisement on the site says that you can change the cd-drive for an extra gpu and you say that it's not possible. i am very confused.
    ram: IdeaPad Y500 - Powerful Gaming Laptop (US)
    *Damien H: I said you can not but the ultrabay after you have purchase the order.
    ram: what do you mean?
    *Damien H: You will not be able to buy the ultrabay separately
    ram: then what's the use of having the ultrabay if i can't even buy it?
    ram: Don't get me wrong but it took me some time to save the money to get this laptop, so i want to make sure that i won't regret it later after i purchase it.
    *Damien H: I understand that and we do have a 30 day return policy if you do not completely like your laptop
    ram: this laptop already has a 4+ weeks waiting time, and i still don't have enough information to convince me to get it. i guess i will wait for more info on the notebookreview.com and purchase it later when i have all the info.
    ram: thanks for your time.
    *Damien H: No problem and You have a great day
    Thank you for contacting Lenovo. You may now close this window.
    Your session has ended. You may now close this window.
     
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