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    Lenovo Ideapad Y410p won't power on... No power light?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jack53, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Put it back together minus the compartment cover. I especially tripple checked the CPU to make sure it was locked and made sure power button ribbon cable was secure.

    No joy :( All it's showing is the blinking orange battery light.

    So what is next??? Maybe order and replace the LENOVO IDEAPAD Y410p SERIES LED POWER BUTTON BOARD NS-A032 NS-A034
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/171993885823?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

    I'm into this laptop for over $900 now counting what I bought it for, upgrades and now the MB.
    One EXPENSIVE brick.
     
  2. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Would a bad power button board be a reason not having a power light and not power on? or is this problem something else like the DC Power Jack plug in cable?
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Surely someone has had a problem like this one?
     
  4. James D

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    Unless you really scewed something physically neither power board nor anything else of this matter is damaged.
    What I still think is that either new motherboard is DOA or this might be BIOS problem where moterboard is acting against new RAM and CPU change.

    I know what I would do for further analize but that is a no go for someone like you. I would use programmer with clips and copy BIOS image from BIOS chip from your old motherboard to new motherboard hoping this would work (in case your old RAM modules are still kept). But that is troublesome work starting from paying for programmer which might not be needed (8$) and ending a possibility that programmer won't be compatible with mobo or BIOS chip.
    So sorry but the easiest way is to return motherboard to the seller :(
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    So, James D, you think this is possible or not:
    Or try sending the MB back. I may not get a refund as you said, it could be a BIOS/Memory problem. It has to be a DOA MB before I can get a eBay refund.

    This was what he said before I ordered it:

    Yes, the motherboard will work. Some of the drivers may be different but everything will still work.

    You will need to buy some thermal paste for the GPU and CPU. Do you have any experience changing laptop motherboards? This model isn't the easiest laptop to change out the motherboard.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Could one of you experts here help me make a decision here? I really want to make this laptop work as I'm into it for over $900, but on the other hand, I'm tired of spending more money and wasting time on it too.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Well, the guy off eBay will take the MB back with full refund, I just lose shipping cost.
    Laptop motherboards are pretty fragile and can be damaged from static electricity. I'll give you a full refund on the motherboard if you ship it back to me.
    I was really hoping this MB would work, so unless I hear anything else I could try, I send it back Friday. One more time, I will ask this question again:
    Would a bad power button board or DC Power Jack plug in cable be a reason not having a power light and no power on? Or plain and simple, a bad MB.

    Should I try another MB or resign myself to the fact I have an expensive brick. :(
     
  8. James D

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    As I said before, if power LED doesn't light that doesn't mean your power board is broken unless you know something we don't. Power goes to integrated controller chip and then follows full path of motherboard and daughteroards. If you have at least some lights then it definitely gets power.

    You can expect for full refund unless listing stated AS-IS or NO REFUND. Even if motherboard is working in owner's laptop you still can send it back for refund because buyer buys it for working in his laptop. You have same model laptop and mobo didn't work for you.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    That's the confusing thing as when I plug in the Adapter with the battery in, I get no power light, but a battery orange blinking light and after a few minutes it turns white and why I asked if w ould a bad power button board or DC Power Jack plug in cable be a reason not having a power light on, but the orange battery light is blinking?
     
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    Tell me, if you use old original motherboard does it behave the same? I don't know for sure what LED blinking means in your laptop and can only guess. I told you that BIOS/EC can be a subject of anything like this but I can't guarantee that it is so. I suppose battery should be drained after a year of not using it but if by "white" you mean LED light becomes white and it still is powered on then obviously it still as power to at least turn on if power jack was your problem.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Blinking orange light means charging, not sure what it means when it changes to white light though? No, my other MB had no lights of any kind. But it is strange that I get the one light and nothing else. If I take battery out, nothing.
     
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    When the battery indicator light is orange it means the battery level is low. Likewise, it turns white when it has been charged sufficiently. The battery indicator light will be the only light on when the laptop is shut down but plugged up to AC power. After turning the laptop on, the power indicator light, the one left of the battery light, should turn white. If power indicator doesn't light up, the laptop isn't turning on.

    Have you had any luck by the way? It's unfortunate you're having so many issues getting you laptop back up and running.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Nope, I ended up sending the MB back. The eBayer was nice enough to let me return it for a full refund. This laptop cost me too much to be a brick. If you see the specs in my sig, I had some serious upgrades, so all told I'm into this laptop for $800+, even though it isn't worth that much now, however a new one with similar specs cost in excess of $1000.

    My plan? Now that I've gotten pretty good at disassembly of this laptop, (4 times now) I'm going to keep trying to fix it. I'm going to try testing the laptop as a barebone system to make sure it's not bad motherboard or failed CPU. I'm hoping it could be the power board or AC connection is bad. That would be a cheap fix.
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    OK, an update, the eBay guy who I got the MB from refunded all my money via paypal then told me this:
    Maybe my MB isn't bad after all? How can I test for that. I was thinking of testing the laptop as a barebone system, but how would I turn it on without a power button to push, or does it just come on once I plug in the AC adaptor. The bare bone system setup I have:
    Wood bench
    1. Motherboard
    2. CPU with the cooling module.
    3. Known good memory module.
    4. The power button board.
    5. Known good AC adapter

    I just hope I don't have a bad CPU?
    Any help appreciated as I really want to fix this laptop.

    Update on what I did before... when I tried to turn on the laptop, I got a blinking orange light, that eventually turned into a white light. No power light or fans or any other activity. Wouldn't that light rule out the power button & DC jack?
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Anybody?
     
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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I bumped this as it's over 3 months old...
    BUMPED... three months and no response to the last post questions. I have a Samsung now with similar specs, but really would like to fix this so I can recoup some of the $800+ I'm into it for.

    A question in addition to the above. Would a computer shop be able to test a MB that is already out, in case I can't. I'm trying isolate this problem. I think at this point, it's not a MB issue, but something smaller.

    There is over 7 pages (many with pics and links) on this and should help other people that run into a similar problem "if" fixed. ;)
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    No, but you could jump-start it by shorting the correct pin on the motherboard's power-button-board connector. Without schematics it's a bit of a guess which one, but use a wire and try each pin and the other end on the shield of the DC connector while the system is hooked up (or use a socket's earth). Power-on works via a relay, so there isn't much power on the connector, but it's still safer to use a known ground instead of two random pins on the connector.

    CPU isn't that expensive to rule out; i3-4000M for $40. Resell it when you're done or keep it as a spare for future testing. Have kept several from different generations for that very purpose. Or ... really, too lazy to sell after upgrading systems ...
     
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    It's been 9 days short of SIX months since the last post here. Bummed out I have a $800+ brick. Not much help here, guess most folks don't do much teardown these days, just run out and buy a new laptop instead. I'm going to gamble and take this to the local computer shop where they repair laptops and see if they will test my MB & CPU as they're already out and go from there. At least I won't have to pay them for a teardown. If that don't work, I'll throw this away and try not to think about it anymore. I really liked this laptop when it was working until it quit a year ago. I just hate throwing away $800+
     
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