Lenovo Laptops

I just wanted to clarify something to the people posting in this forum, THESE ARENT SAGERS or GATEWAYS!!! if you see a 150 dollar difference in price yet, no difference in performance, dont ask why, just wait till you drop your laptop and it blue screens. mine just got a scratch.

 

lol.. kinda funny

 

$150 difference in price? Let me show you something:

Sager NP2096:
- 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1680x1050) `
- Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- ~Intel® T9400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 35 watt
- 512MB PCI-Express nVidia GeForce 9600M GT DDR2 DX10
- None Standard
- ~ 4,096MB DDR2 800 (2 SODIMMS) Dual Channel Memory (Requires Vista 64-Bit to recognize Full 4GB)
- None Standard
- Standard Finish
- ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
- ~ 200GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Internal 3-in-1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS)
- Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
- Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 5100 802.11 a/g/n
- None Standard
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- None Standard
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Carying Case Optional (Select if desired)
- Smart Li-ion Battery (9-Cell)
- None Standard
- None Standard
- None Standard
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- None Standard
- ~Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- None Standard
- None Standard
- 1 Year Parts & Labor, Lifetime Sager Toll Free Tech Support

Total Price: $1381.28

Lenovo T500 with SAME specs (worse GPU and less RAM):
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
Operating system : Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Operating system language : Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium US English
Display type: 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight
System graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon 3650 with 256MB
Total memory: 3 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
Keyboards: Keyboard US English
Pointing Device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad)
Hard Drive: 200 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm with Disk Encryption
Optical device : CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
System expansion slots : Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot
Wireless card: Intel WiFi Link 5100 (1x2 AGN)
Battery: 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
Country Pack: Country Pack North America with Line cord & 90W AC adapter
Language Pack: Language Pack US English

Total price: $2189.00

More like an $800 difference in price. Worth it?

 

You just don't get it do you? This is the first day it comes out.

 

I understand that, but even if these prices dropped by $300, it still wouldn't be worth it. How much can they possibly go down?

 

Next I bet you are going to come out and say how ToughBooks cost so much (4000+) and are slower than a 500 buck BestBuy sunday special.

Business notebooks have been and will always be more expensive than your average bear. Roll cages, parts backwards compatibility (hey my dock from 3 years ago still works), high quality plastics, high quality keyboards, etc etc dont come cheap.

And yes, any notebook that can be operated by my sister for one year and not burst into flames is worth spending a bit more on.

 

I was just simply pointing out the fact that the OP said there was a $150 difference in price and there clearly isn't for 2 identical notebooks. I can understand that a business notebook could cost a little bit more, but not $800 more for the same exact hardware. Yes prices will go down, but not to the point where there is a $150 difference between these two.

 

It's not 800, either. You fail to account for DDR3 for one and further an inability to find deals on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.

 

I think a better comparison would be against the W500. Also the HD option you picked is a pretty expensive drive, 7200rpm with encryption.


ThinkPad W500 - Express 1 Year Depot Warranty
Edit 4058CTO $2,134.00 1 $2,134.00
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2) 1
Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 1
Operating system language: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium US English 1
Display type: 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT, w/ CCFL Backlight 1
System graphics: ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 with 512MB VRAM 1
Total memory: 3 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM) 1
Keyboard: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) 1
Hard drive: 160 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm 1
Optical device: CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA) 1
System expansion slots: Express Card Slot & PC Card Slot 1
Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel WiFi Link 5100 (1x2 AGN) 1
Wireless WWAN accessories: Integrated Wireless Wide Area Network upgradable 1
Battery: 9 cell Li-Ion Battery 1
Power cord: Country Pack North America with Line cord & 90W AC adapter 1
Language pack: Language Pack US English 1 1

This notebook costs less than the other configuration, has a video card that is par for par with the one in the Sager, and faster system ram to boot.

 

and much much much better build quality.

 

You came down from my price of $2189 to $2134? That makes it a 700+ price difference. Sure you might find a 10-15% off coupon but you'll still end up paying at least $300 more for it. Whatever though, I'm not gonna keep arguing -- I just don't see the point of spending all that money on the same hardware but to each his own.

 

"I just don't see the point of spending all that money on the same hardware"
It's not the same hardware. You are comparing apple to banana. The W500 has a workstation graphic card, which is not the cheapest card around for gaming.

Look at the T500 instead.

 

^^ I did, did you not see my post on the first page?

 

Oh I didn't see.

but do I care? no.

 

Really, can you even really compare a Thinkpad to an Asus? They are designed for completely different tasks, and with different goals in mind.

If you are a gamer who buys the latest rig every year or two, why would you buy a Thinkpad. You wouldn't use it for a long enough period to justify the price premium that is paid for quality. Gaming machines aren't designed for a long life cycle, because manufacturers know that their components will be obsolete (for gaming) in a year or two anyway.

But Thinkpads are built to last. Companies don't want to have to upgrade every year or two, and they want legacy support. They have build quality that will stand up to daily travel, and their graphics cards are meant for CAD and design work.

Its like comparing Dell Laititude's to XPS'- both serve a different purpose.

 

I don't know why they didn't bother to reply to your excellent post.

 

Wow, for a Santa Rosa laptop, you might want to compare it to my T61 that I got for less than $900...

Although there are some options like the T9400 CPU and Intel 5100 wireless that were not available on the T61.

 

That's T9400 Montevina, these just came out.