Lenovo Leaks: ThinkPad Edge, X100e, T410s, W510, T510

CES is right around the corner, but for the impatient among us, Engadget's got some info on upcoming releases.

Highlights:


The T410 and T510 are listed with i7 processors and the W510 apparently has an i5. Also, the W510 is listed with a "95% NTSC gamut (finally a quality screen in a ThinkPad?), multitouch panel," and now has an integrated color calibrator. There are also some changes to the case - a big surprise given the number of times I've heard it mentioned that ThinkPads rarely change externally year-to-year...

Looks like the Edge goes on sale on Jan 5th and the rest on Jan. 7.

The biggest surprise has to be the new ThinkPad Edge:


Brett

 

I don't think i'm a fan of the "Streamlined" key caps, but the edge does look pretty good - i'd imaging it'd definitely surpass the sl series

 

Judging by the look on that woman's face, the new Edge won't be a pleasant computing experience.

 

Is that a typo? Up to 18 hours?! Man, I'm pissed with my somewhat-new 9 Cell T400 if this is even close to correct.

Edit: Nevermind, should have exercised some common sense. It's 18 hours with 2 batteries (Or 3 with the UltraBay?)

 

Looks good, but I need more specs.

 

Check out this thread where those 'leaks' have been discussed:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=445891

 

The case changes are due to the very likely switch to 16:9. These displays are wider (and shorter) than 16:10 and thus necessitate changes to the case.

 

Oops am I seeing a GLOSSY screen on the Edge ? Please tell me it's matte !

 

I'm really surprised at how much is different. Hope the "new" keyboards are better than the swiss cheese ones. Really they sound nice aside from the whole "sweep 16:9 screen change under the rug." There seems to be a lot to differentiate the W510 from the T510, unlike what we saw with the W500 and T500. The Edge also sounds really nice. Alot of the pre-release scuttlebutt proved to be accurate. I thought including USB 3.0 was a joke!

 

The "New" keyboard is a Chiclet (Mac/Sony) style keyboard with only six rows. It will be used on the Edge and x100e. The T410 and T510 look like they will inherit the T400s style keyboard with enlarged escape and delete keys.

The w510 doe sound really nice, although I'm curious about size/weight. The press release implies four RAM slots, 1GB of VRAM, and support for quad core (high TDP) processors. This generally means that the w510 will be a decent bit larger than the T500 (two slots, 512MB of VRAM, support for dual core). Only time and the updated tabook will tell for sure.

 

Agreed, although the spec sheet showing only a 1440x900 screen option has me a bit puzzled...

Edit: Bah, scratch that - there are three resolutions listed... nice.

Brett

 

For some bizarre reason I failed to realize the T/W#10's were using the keyboard from the T400s. Not really sure what was my malfunction was, but it doesn't help I cared next to nothing about it. So there's the "new keyboard" I refered to.

Edge thoughts... I don't like chicklet keyboards normally and I'm not in the market for a new Thinkpad anytime soon. Still the Edge's keyboard "looks" comfortable. It looks like Lenovo learned their lesson with the reputation the SL had and worked to make it an actual Thinkpad.

There's got to be some serious hardware differences between the T and W510. Like motherboard differences... what between USB 3, 4 Ram slots, etc.

Well unless Lenovo isnt advertising the T510 as having USB 3.0, 4 Ram slots, etc just to make it seem like huge differences.

 

The Edge looks terrible. They should have put an IdeaPad sticker on instead.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5691850&postcount=10

 

I actually kind of like the look of the matte black version, but I wish the white trim was a nice heavy aluminum alloy. And of course that the screen were matte.

 

Please tell me there is a MATTE option for the Edge and that the X100e being a Thinkpad comes with a matte screen ... Then I will get myself a T400 for home and an X100e for travel, would be perfect. I am assuming the T410 etc. will just be way too expensive in Europe to make them affordable. If the X100e costs sub 500 US dollars in the USA then here it will be more like US 900 dollars or so.

 

Actually read the engadget review and it seems the Edge is all glossy. And it seems it is also underpowered. So let's see what the T401 will have in store. Am not familiar with the new I Core CPU, would that mean more heat and thus more noise? Tomorrow I hope an X100e with a matte screen will be revealed. I may just try and buy one from the States and pay all the taxes on it ... would the T410 series have a new enhanced screen or the same old mixed bad of average screens?

 

The point of the CULV processors used in the X100e and the edge is that they are good enough for typically usage (better than something like the Atom) and consume less power than the regular C2D or Ci3/i5/i7 series processors. Plus then are priced lower than the ULV C2D's as well.

Eseentially, laptops like these are useful if you are looking for a travel companion which is small and have longer battery life with a regular 6 cell battery than the T400/T410 with a 9 cell battery.

 

but if the initial test results with 5:45 h battery runtime for the edge with the intel 1,3ghz cpu are accurate, these results aren't impressive. and the price comes close to a x200s (the 13" edge in the laptopmag review costs 899 usd). hm, not yet impressed.

 

Ofcourse, there is going to be some overlap but you are still comparing at launch price versus the X200s which has been available for a while. Plus, battery should be better than 5:45h. Engadget seem to indicate from 5:45 on the low side to around 7hrs.

I agress the edge however doesnt impress me much, I'm more interested in the X100e.

 

Will the new T410/T510/W510 also have a new redesigned keyboard?
According to the recent reviews, the new Chiclet keyboard on the thinkpad edge is comfortable and has a really nice feel. It would be good to know if that also is the case with the new T series and not deceiving as when the T400/T500 just came out with a lot of flex etc...

 

It's still the T400s keyboard which I prefer over the old design. The new Chiclet would look so ugly on the T and W series though.

 

Videos now work for the X100e.

 

Hopefully not.

There is a reason chiclet keyboards failed to gain traction when they were introduced ages ago. They are terrible for any serious typing.

Chiclet keyboards are another one of the recent trends of style over substance no matter what that sucks for anyone that uses computers for more than photos/videos/youtube.

 

You haven't even seen it. How could you possibly know if it's better or worse? I prefer to judge when I see it.

 

1920x1200 pixels on the W510 or not anymore (1920x1080p)?

 

W510 is 16:9.

Here is direct quote from lenovo blogs:

The T510 and W510 have switched to 16:9 aspect ratio displays. Though 4:3 is not coming back, there are a lot of people (myself included) that did not want to switch aspect ratios yet again on the 14” form factor. Enough other vendors in the industry voiced this same opinion that the industry was able to convince glass manufacturers to continue making 14.1” 16:10 glass – this year at least. Thus, the T410 and T410s feature 16:10 displays just like their predecessor models. All displays are LED backlit. (Good riddance to florescent backlighting.)

 

well I must admit the chiclet style keyboard on the Macs are pretty good. Am pretty easy though I loathe HP Keyboards ! Anyone wondering what delivery time will be like on the new X100e? Hopefully not toooooooo long.

 

Here are the spec sheets on each of the new ThinkPads

Out of all of that... this line makes me giddy as hell

15.6” RG-ph LED FHD (95% Gamut 270 NIT)

 

That does indeed sound quite impressive. The lower resolution models claim to be 16:10 (1280x800 and 1440x900). However, the inch rating (15.6") and "FHD" seem to imply 1920x1080. However, if the quality is good (and it sounds like it probably is) that's what really matters.

 

Matt Kohut said on his blog:

So T510 and W510 have 16:9 screen ratio while T410 and T410s have 16:10


I think this is the true source for this info.

 

Also probably because the 14" 16:9 are limited in higher resolution options, at least some manner of price or availability (or both).

There are enough 1080p 15" screens where they are superior to 1680x1050, but a 14" 1600x900 with the issues I mentioned probably it wasn't feasible at least now.
Plus I'm sure the vendors made a stink about the potential business-oriented customer backlash with the extra number of users needing reading glasses on a physically smaller 14" 1600x900 screen vs a larger 1440x900 screen

 

Well, so much for the high quality 16:10 panel... I was thinking it would actually make sense for t510 being 16:9 as it is more entertaining, while keep W510 16:10 for other professionals

 

the low res, glossy screen will make me stick with my x200s. i would like to add HDMI and a webcam for just a bit more size/weight.

 

Only T410s will have switchable graphics...bummer!

 

I would love to see the T410 is that red!!!

 

The Edge and X100e are now up for sale on Lenovo US.

You can actually customize the RAM, HDD, color and Windows options for the X100e which is kind of rare for Lenovo. CPU is also listed but there's only the option for the single core MV-40. ;/

 

Yeah, I was kind of disappointed with the single core cause I saw some specs saying it had the L335 and L625 CPU as options. With a dual core it becomes much more attractive. Maybe they'll be coming soon. I might be interested in one of those.

 

I would have had a hard time not ordering one today if they were offering either dual-core version....especially with a starting price of $449.

I figure it'll be another $70-$85 USD for the Turion Neo X2.

 

Maybe they don't want to get too close to the X series. With a dual core and a SSD you'd have a pretty nice portable notebook.

 

The dual-core Neos will probably come later. Kevin listed them in the specs for the X100e in post #28 of this thread and most sites are reporting it will come with those options.

Engadget has a hands on with more pics.

 

It seems that the edge are up now and the have the dual core neos. Perhaps that's were the confusion was. I hope the X100e gets the dual cores as well.

 

Do you think the LCD that they use will be new generation or improved? I've heard many complaints about terrible screens on T400/T500s.

Other then that, the specs look awesome, especially the gigantic battery life

 

Looks like they're still updating the X100e offerings....a new Elite model was added with a SIM card and GPS.