Lenovo Legion 5/5 Pro/7 2021 Discussion

Then why don't you take a picture when you get it?

 

Or invite him over for a so-dimm party.

 

I haven’t wanted to take the bottom off mine yet. . Hoped a picture was available, but if not, I may just have to relent.

 

I know how you feel. My ram is coming tomorrow. Depending on when it comes, I'll put it in tomorrow or Saturday and take a pic if you don't want to.

 

Thanks! Very interested to know more about your upgrade and the results

 

Lol there should be more so-dimm parties

 

Here is a picture of the 7i motherboard directly from Lenovo's parts catalogue...it very clearly shows 2 SODIMM slots.

 

Picked up a Legion 5 non-Pro from Microcenter. The first one had an AUO panel with a dead pixel, speck of dust underneath, and really dim viewing angles. My new one is much better and interestingly has a BOE panel. Set the GPU to dedicated only and overclocked +150/+300 in the bios. Surprised and happy that this laptop has a MUX. Happy so far with gaming temps and performance. I ordered single rank RAM and will replace stock RAM when it arrives.

 

Perfect perfect! Thank you

 

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sy...on_7_16ITHg6/Lenovo_Legion_7_16ITHg6_Spec.pdf

Spec sheet says one PCIE gen 4 slot and one gen 3 slot. Makes little sense to have two gen 4 drives in raid then right? Can anyone tell if these are actually both m2 gen 4 slots? Due to the raid array crystal disk info can't tell me transfer type. I don't really want two separate drives anyways so I don't want to undo the raid array.

 

To me it would seem logical that a gen 3 and a gen 4 drive in a stripped set would still be faster than a solo gen 4 drive. Obviously not optimal, but still faster.

 

The 4.0 slot is attached to the CPU directly and the 3.0 slot is attached via the PCH. Tiger Lake PCH does not support PCIe 4.0.

 

7i internals. Ram is NOT soldered.

 

Thank you. Do let us know how the new RAM improved things.

 

A bit, not a ton. The ram that comes with the 7i is actually decent. Until the advanced bios is unlocked and XMP is available, it's not worth upgrading yet. Save up for some Kingston HyperX or Fury Impact

 

Has Lenovo suggested that the advanced bios could be unlocked at some point or is it just wishful thinking?

 

Hmm.. maybe they have left some headroom. I have to see if the tdp jumps to 165W if I overclock it. Thanks for the info!

 

No, there is a Lenovo employee that visits the discord a lot. He is meeting with some higher ups to try at least getting XMP added to the bios, and hopefully more advanced settings.

 

It is unlockable, techs need it. The problem is the specific key combination needs to be given to us or discovered that unlocks it. The one for last years units does not work

 

I have about 30 minutes of work to do and then I'm gonna pop these puppies in.

 

Managed to get a L5 AMD Premium 17" for $1070 (5800H + RTX 3070) but hasn't shipped. It states it comes with a secondary 1 tb NVME drive but doesn't say what the primary stock storage drive is. Does anyone have any idea? The spec sheet says it only supports a 2242 SSD and a 2280 ssd

 

How did you even score one at that price? That's a steal.

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anyone have an easy way to get the bottom off the legion 7? so far its a *****. I watched a lenovo video. They did it easy. Me .. not so much

 

Wedge a guitar pick or credit card between the bottom panel and chassis starting from the front corner of the laptop (side where the battery is). Drag along the edge until you start feeling/hearing the clips pop. Once the edge has been removed, you should be able to use your hands to firmly, but not forcefully, remove the rest of the panel.

 

This always scares the out of me, especially with new laptops.

Gods speed and good luck, brave soul.

 

Thats what I've been trying with the picks in this tool kit I bought but nothing is wedging.

 

Razer is by far the worst when it comes to getting into their laptops. They use blue threadlock on the cheapest screws so they strip more easily than a Vegas showgirl. The Legion is a bear because of the wrap-around design of the panel. It feels like you're going to snap something off when removing it, but it's not completely awful.

 

trying to do it like this video https://download.lenovo.com/lts/RCNW10S0/FOF/RCNW10S0-Legion7_FRU_01_BottomCase.mp4 but it is TIGHT

 

Is the Intel XTU utility what I should be using to play with undervolting?

 

ThrottleStop

 

Its best to have a pry tool like in the video. On my Legion 5 the bottom case is very tight especially around the vent area but after opening it for the first time its gets easier.

 

I did it opposite the video and started at the grill. Piece of cake after that. Got the bottom back on and remembered I forgot to plugin the battery and put the cover back on the ram.

 

HyperX certainly helps the CPU score. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21980321

 

Your score is about 5% higher than mine (11,440).

 

Overall score lower though? Is this with a different GPU OC? Your CPU score implies almost a 10% improvement on mine with that ram. What exactly were the rated timings? How big is your undervolt again?

 

Yeah it was slightly lower than with stock ram. No undervolt, just performance mode.
This was .07 undervolt, +195/+1500 in afterburner

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21982317

 

Is it? It’s take not 5 minutes to unscrew and access the internal at least to me on all their laptops models I had/have. However It’s way better than Dell that using red, and previous blade 14 and stealth that I think doesn’t use one resulting loosing screws due vibration that was a lot reported by users on old blade and MacBook laptops.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comme...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

 

That's why Lenovo has a battery disconnect option in the BIOS so you don't need to unplug it from the motherboard when performing most maintenance.

I was able to get Lenovo to put in a request for an on-site repair visit because my touchpad has been behaving very erratically with jittery movements at some points and other times not registering anything at all. I've seen a few threads on Reddit and their in-house support forum about the same issue so it appears I'm not the only one with the problem. Hopefully parts availability will not be an issue.

 

I did not know that was in the bios. I'll sure remember it though.
Is that on your LP5? Hope they can get it fixed for you.

 

Okay, this has to be due to the ram, at least partly. I've tried and tried before and most was about 13008.
-.08 undervolt Afterburner +200/+1500

 

stupid question. you sure you got all the screws?

 

haha .. yeah, it was just too tight to get a pick in the corner like the guy in the video. I started on the other end at the grill and it was MUCH easier.I think the one in the video had been opened before.

 

That or Throttlestop. I was using Throttlestop but I saw someone said it was messing with the cpu clocks on the Legion so I started using XTU. Plus XTU has more options to help benching.

 

FWIW, I somewhat abruptly started having this problem with both my L5P and the L5 17". The threads on Lenovo's support forum and these anecdotal experiences make me think this is a more widespread problem.

 

Anyone waiting for a 7i with a 3060?
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-7-series/Legion-7-16ITH6/p/LEN101G0002

 

Hmm interesting. 2% overall improvement over my score suggests not much framerate improvement in games. Maybe 5-8% CPU bump in some tasks though which could translate to CPU heavy games. All that for CL22 to CL20. Hard to swallow for $260. No 64gb kit exists that I see in stock anywhere- $350 for 64gb at CL20 would be more worth it as some VR can push 32gb to the limit. Also- I get red artifacting past 100/300 OC on GPU. No issues at or below it. Score is close despite the higher clocks on yours- clearly TDP limited. Mine was bumping 165w for much of timespy.

 

XTU is a performance hit supposedly. Where did you see someone said throttlestop was messing with clocks? No issues so far with throttlestop but when trying lower power states on battery I had one BSOD where my undervolt was stable under load so I backed it off a little. Unsure if this could be what they are talking about.

 

The ram was $206 not including tax and shipping. I could afford it, I bought it and it helped. I don't really care about gaming when I'm bench marking. I have fun when I'm trying to wring all I can out of my machine and get the highest score I can. So I guess that in itself is a game to me. The higher my score, the bigger my penis. I get artifacts too with high overclock. Doesn't really matter to me. Its not something I'm going to see in real world use.

 

I'm not really sure what the issue is they are talking about. If I just wanted to undervolt to keep things cool on a daily basis I would use throttlestop. When doing benchmarks I am in XTU anyway so I do it there. It was in the Lenovo forum a couple people said that. https://discord.gg/lenovolegion Go say hi.

 

I suspect this as well. They are processing my service request but it’s now “on hold” while they wait for parts. Fingers crossed it won’t take too long, but I don’t have high hopes.


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