Lenovo Legion 5/5 Pro/7 2022 Discussion

At this point, Nvidia even telling people what retail desktop GPUs cost is a joke. They'd be better telling people the average price from eBay.

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You're right, I read hastily.

It is obscure to me why Nvidia presents on its web site the price of notebooks produced by others and probably very different as additional equipment, apart from the GPU.
It looks like a strange generic advertising deal with laptop manufacturers rather than GPU information.

PS: I don't know the prices of the mobile versions (which I don't know if they have been announced and perhaps it never will), however at the moment the difference in the retail price between the desktop versions is actually around 700-800 euros ($ 800-900), for example the Asus GeForce 3070 Ti vs 3080 Ti.
However a lot.
I hope that the price difference for the manufacturers is less in the mobile.

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-RTX-3080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3070-Ti/4409vs4413

 

Add the Legion 5i 3070 that I snagged for $1467 from Lenovo's site a couple weeks ago to that list.

Razer is out of its mind to charge $2600 for 14" 3070Ti gimped at 100w. Add to that soldered 16gb RAM (can't believe they still are doing this for 2022), and a useless (for me) MUX switch that doesn't allow for G-sync when in dGPU mode. G-sync isn't on the Razer product details page, so that may change.

If I decide to get a new Legion whenever they launch, it'll be a 3080Ti model (L7) or bust. If they cost over $3500 USD it'll be a hard pass for me. Likely will look again when 4000 series GPUs arrive.

 

The new G14 goes up to 32GB so that's the one I'd opt for.

I'm curious to see how well these TI models perform. My guess is we're only going to see a small improvement over the non-TI versions, so if you don't mind using a CPU from the last generation, the best value will come from buying a 2021 model at a reduced price (this is still something I'm debating with myself though )

 

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The increase in performance of the Ti GPUs will probably be about what it was when NVIDIA launched the RTX 2000 Super series - around 8-10 percent in most cases.

 

That actually sounds like a decent improvement. Obviously, we need to take the TDP into account as those 100 watt 3070 and 3080s were sometimes outclassed by the cards below them.

Any particular 2022 laptop catch your eye?

 

Not really. At least none that are compelling me to want to return my current Legion 7 (I have until the 16th to send it back for a full refund). I might feel differently had I not paid just $2k all-in for it and a 3-year extended warranty with accidental damage protection.

 

No laptop is perfect, but the Legion 7 was arguably the best gaming laptop released last year. It ticked most boxes: Mux switch, great display, great keyboard, lots of power to the GPUs, 16GB for the 3080 etc.

If I was in your position, I'd be tempted to send the Legion 7 back if the 2022 model was coming out in February or March, but I don't think we'll see the new model until much later this year. The Legion 5 Pro apparently comes out in April so I guess that's a good alternative.

 

Even if the new Legion 7 were available tomorrow, I still wouldn't be convinced to send my 2021 model back. The overall form factor is unlikely to be much different, and the new CPUs and GPUs aren't moving the needle for me. I already have PCI-Express 4.0, DDR5 is not much of an upgrade over DDR4 except in synthetic benchmarks, and while the rumored mini-LED screen option would be nice, the standard IPS one you can get right now is no slouch.

While the design of the updated Legion 5 Pro is an improvement since they got rid of the glowing Y logo on the lid, I still prefer the aesthetics of the 7. Plus, I like having the per-key RGB keyboard even if Corsair iCue is far from the best solution to govern it. I really wish the creators of OpenRGB would add support.

 

Agreed. A lot of these upgrades look great on paper and on performance reports etc, but they may not make a massive difference in real life. Most companies appear to be using the same chassis and simply upgrading the internals.

All the AMD laptops from last year had PCI-E 3. I would much rather have PCI-E 4 SSDs in my laptop, but the reality is that few games will actually take advantage of it. I'd only see a small improvement in performance when using DaVinci Resolve. Could be a similar story with DDR5.

 

I guess another question I would have is will these models work ok with Windows 10? Obviously the Ryzen 6000 variant is a better choice in that case as there is not a mix of P and E cores. Will these new models still support S3 standby or will they now be using Modern Standby like the rest of the industry?

 

That's something I hadn't even considered. I'm still using Windows 10 on all of my laptops and PCs and wasn't planning on upgrading for a while.

 

I think the Legion 5 Pro will be useless now since the 2022 Legion 5 will also use a metal chassis and uses a QHD screen.

I kinda like the Thinner design but im concerned about the temperatures. Thin and Light gaming laptops normally overheats like crazy.

 

Display in Pro is very different (16:10 vs 16:9, 500 nits vs 300 nits) and "forces" Lenovo to have two different models (at least for the physical dimensions).

Due to the display and the same temperature concerns that you mention, I am much more interested in the Pro.
Personally, I really like the look of the Pro, even if it's not that slim.

 

That the only difference between the two models now. It still makes the Pro useless

Before you were paying more for the metal chassis and QHD screen with the Pro vs the FHD screen and the all plastic build with the Legion 5 but now they're almost the same besides the looks.

 

Notice the 1000 nit one only has 1:1200 contrast ratio while the 1250 nit one has 1:100000 contrast ratio. That indicates that only the 1250 nit miniled panel has support for local dimming.