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    Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by victorgm, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. victorgm

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    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-RTX-2070-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.413926.0.html
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2070 Max-Q very good - 88%

    https://laptopmedia.com/review/lenovo-legion-y740-review-a-refresh-with-ray-tracing-capabilities/
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2060 Editor's choice

    https://gamerdad.ca/reviews/lenovo-legion-y740-15-review/
    Y740-15 i7-8750H RTX 2070 Max-Q
    https://gamerdad.ca/reviews/rtx-2060-vs-rtx-2070-max-q/

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenov...0H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q good - 86%

    https://www.pcgamer.com/lenovo-legion-y740-review/
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q 90%

    https://www.neowin.net/news/lenovo-legion-y740-17-inch-review-ray-tracing-and-dlss-on-a-laptop/
    Y740-17 i7-8750H RTX 2080 Max-Q great - 80%


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    15" (2.2kg 20mm) / 17" (2.8kg 23mm)
    i7-8750H
    FHD 72% Gamut G-Sync, 144Hz, 300nits (optional Dolby Vision HDR 400, 144Hz, 500nits)
    RTX2080 Max-Q 8GB, RTX2070 Max-Q 8GB, RTX2060 6GB
    up to 32GB Ram
    PCIe NVMe SSD
    2x M.2 slots
    Thunderbolt 3
    Dolby Atmos
    Killer Wireless
    Keyboard Corsair RGB lighting
    Battery 57Wh (5h) / 76Wh (6h)
    15" from 1700$ / 17" from 1900$

    Previews:

    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24355-lenovo-legion-y740-y540/
    https://www.techradar.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-y740
    https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/lenovo-legion-y740-y540-specs-price
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24765-laptops-rtx-2060-graphics/
     
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    I'm interested. I was looking at a Y740 15" just now with a 8750H, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD and RTX2060 6GB for $2170 CAD tax in. 10-12 day estimated availability.

    5.1 lbs is the heaviest I'd want to go. Wish there were some reviews to confirm noise and thermals.

    Also is it just GSYNC or Optimus too?

    I've been waiting ages holding off on getting a GTX1060 laptop and really excited. I've made due (since my GTX860 laptop monitor broke 2 years ago) with a work laptop with just an integrated 620m. I'm very, very ready to upgrade :).

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    Up to 5 hour battery life on a 57Wh battery.

    It's just so much cheaper in Canada than an MSI GS65.

    Lenovo advertises this gen as being quieter and cooler.

    The Y740 15" is on sale today for $1822 CAD + tax for the RTX 2060 model - even with tax in it's only $2058.. very tempted. That's literally $760 CAD less than the GS65 with similar specs. Trading 1 lb more weight if I'm getting everything else nearly the same is definitely worth $760 to me...

    I just wish there was some official review somewhere for this. I can't find anything...

    Peter
     
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    victorgm Notebook Geek

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    Hi PJPeter!

    i also have a GTX860M myself (MSI GS60 2pc, 5 y.o.)...and its getting very slow this days!

    Im more interested in the 17" version, as an architect the bigger screen is a plus, and its not so heavy as other models. Also it "should" have a better cooling. On the other hand, here in Germany the MSI GS75 17" (just 2.3kg..) costs the same for the RTX2060 model, but 400€ more for the RTX2070, so im in a similar position like you!

    In any case, as soon I find any review about it I'll post it here ;)

    Victor
     
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    I’m glad people are talking about this. I only knew of this laptop about 10 days ago and it’s actually the laptop of choice and I found it because of this video.
    My main reason is because I want dedicated click buttons and no numpad (this setup actually comes from using thinkpads and hp business laptops from over 10yrs ago. )
    Coming from an Alienware 13 r3 and 15 r3, this is the next nearest thing and I think in a way it actually has copied their last gen design and made it a bit more sleek and fancier with the lighting.
    Can’t be sure of what option I’ll select as prices in uk are higher. But I do fancy the 2080. But I’ll see what they have as options first.


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    Glad you guys are interested too.

    I actually pulled the trigger and ordered a Y740 15 RTX2060 for $1822 CAD+tax last night a few minutes after my post.

    I checked into the pricing on the Alienware M15 ($2599+ CAD+tax), Razer Blade 15 ($3099+tax), GS65 ($2499+tax), Gigabyte Aero 15 ($2899+tax) and even a few others on the RTX2060 list that were around 2kg (but were plastic and definitely not as solidly built as this). Every other competing model was at least $175 CAD more+tax than the Y740 15, even for the pure plastic ones (like a $1999+tax MSI GL63). So this was definitely a no brainer :).

    I like I'll have a spot for a 2.5" SSD since I have many spare ones. I'll miss the SD Card slot but can make due.

    Tech support from Lenovo told me I can disable GSYNC and switch to Optimus through BIOS so I'll test that (restart each time but could be worth it for longer batt life while working). Lenovo Vantage looks like it'll give me the fan control I want.

    This one is easier to maintain than the GS65, I confirmed that the warranty won't be voided by opening the case and that I have 30 days to try it risk free once it arrives with no return shipping or restocking fees.

    I don't think Lenovo is participating in the free Anthem/BF5 Bundle Promo like ASUS, MSI and Razer are unfortunately.

    I read over the Y730 reviews and if the cooling is in fact better and quieter, the case is more solid and he keyboard is still great - it should absolutely be a

    I'll start posting a review with performance, noise, battery, and other tests as soon as I can once I receive it :). I'll let you guys know when it ships.

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    It was $260 CAD more for the RTX 2070 MaxQ model. But from all I've read, aside from actually raytracing performance there's no real gain and depending on the implementation the RTX2060 can be faster. So it seems like the sweet spot, especially at this price.

    I also tried to find the Predator Triton 500 somewhere just to see the pricing since it's a similar weight to thus. But it's not available in my region yet. And the one review I found online said it's very loud and still runs hot.

    Here's hoping the Y740 doesn't :).

    Peter
     
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    Still so little info out there on these.

    I realized the 5.1lbs listed on Lenovo sales site is just bad math. 15" is 2.2kg - so 4.85lbs.

    Marketing Videos:
    https://www.tvcommercialad.com/v/XB4kJj
    https://www.tvcommercialad.com/v/OeIA5Z

    My order (for reference):
    Lenovo Legion Y740 - Iron Grey
    Configuration Details
    ● Processor: Intel Core i7-8750H 6 Core (2.20GHz, up to 4.10GHz with Turbo Boost, 9MB Cache)
    ● Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
    ● Display Type: 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) NVIDIA® G-SYNC, 144 Hz, 300 nits, software enabled Dolby Vision HDR
    ● Memory: 16GB (8GB + 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz
    ● Hard Drive: 256GB Solid State Drive PCIe
    ● Warranty: 1 Year Depot or Carry-in
    ● Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2060 6GB
    ● Keyboard: Backlit RGB Keyboard - US English
    ● Wireless: Killer Wireless 802.11 AC (2 x 2) + Bluetooth 4.1

    I also added on 1 year accidental damage warranty just incase since it was only $25 CAD.

    I like the spill resistant keyboard deck, but figured it would be worth it. Plus my Credit Card doubles the base 1 year warranty so hopefully that will cover me if something does go wrong. My P34G had a 2 year warranty by default - 1 year is a bit short for such a large purchase.

    Not sure when it'll ship but it says up to 12 business days. Might be no stock is actually available yet to anyone, hence the lack of reviews and info. Wish I could get the Win 10 Pro upgrade for just $39 CAD - but the customization adds $65 otherwise which makes it not worth it and would slow down shipping.

    Confirmed no Anthem/BFV bundle, Lenovo decided not to participate. No review credit like MSI is offering either.

    So the wait begins...

    Peter
     
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    It looks good Peter! i hope it will arrive to you soon!

    I'll still wait a bit for my Legion Y740 17", as here in Germany it says that it can be available in 4 weeks...so meanwhile I could read some reviews :) In my case, I have for 1999€ the RTX2060 (with Windows 10) and also for 1999€ the RTX2070MaxQ (without OS), so im not sure which one I should take...if only the 2070 could be not MaxQ...in any case, I think i will choose the RTX2070, those 2GB Vram should make some difference

    I find interesting the option to change GSync to Optimus...but will it be necessary to change it in every restart?

    Victor
     
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    Hi Victor,

    My understanding is that you need to go into the BIOS to make the change, which requires a restart. But once you make the change, it sticks until you go back into the BIOS and change it again. So it isn't a toggle. needed to do each boot thankfully. Will see once I get the system if that's how it actually works and if it fully activates Optimus or just disables the GPU which would be unacceptable to me.

    Looking into the reviews more, it seems that the low performance of the Aero 15X9 may be bringing down the overall benchmarks for the RTX 2060 vs 2070MaxQ in other laptop models. So the upgrade may be worth it - need to check into more comparisons, especially of more comparable models with the same CPUs. If it is a big difference, I might change my order - though I'd probably run a full set of tests on this one first).

    The Razer Blade with 2060 is now available in Canada at MS Store - $2699+tax though, so still so much more.

    I realized that the primary competition for the Y740 in my market seems to be the Dell G7 RTX 2060 is a similar price to the Y740 - around $1999 CAD - but that's for a laptop which is a lb heavier than this, so not an option for me.

    Some MSI GS65 owners carry a ~1.5 lb metal laptop desk next to their laptops in the bag to keep their laptops from bending. The 2019 model may better for this, but if you have to carry the extra weight anyway (my current lap desk folds and is much lighter and more usable).

    I did see in the Y740 manual that they may offer a 15" model with the same size battery as the Y740 17" - I suspect they'll do the same as other manufacturers and remove the second HDD slot in that case for the space. But I haven't see any details otherwise.

    Peter

    P.S.
    Most of the reviews/benchmarks I see are for 2080MaxQ laptops.
    This is a review (translated from french) of a RTX2060/i7-8750H to give some numbers:
    https://translate.google.com/transl...0-mobile-plus-rapide-1070-maxq/4/&prev=search

    And this is the review of the Acer Predator Triton 500 that let me know it wasn't even option because of the noise/cooling system:
    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/24809-acer-triton-500-review/

    And the other half of things - seems the proper drivers for RTX laptops were only released yesterday?
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-N...support-for-GeForce-RTX-laptops.403151.0.html

    Some more benchmarks of same processor and RTX2060 and RTX2070 Notebook GPUs. Can't set as MaxQ or not, but gives some idea. Wish there was some Lenovo results on the list to know but it's still good to reference and when there are, hopefully we'll see there:

    https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mod...Count=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-8750H Processor

    https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mod...Count=0&cpuName=Intel Core i7-8750H Processor
     
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    Does anyone know when the NDA for these notebooks expires? It is probably no coincidence that all the interesting 2060 laptops have not been reviewed yet?
     
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    In terms of general reviews/previews it was over Jan 7 2019 when nVidia gave their presentation and then CES2019 kicked off. In terms of specifics, the laptops were officially released Jan 29 2019 and then full benchmark details could be released from that day on.

    I posted a link to a review of a RTX2060 laptop with benchmarks in my previous post - there are plenty for RTX2070/2070MaxQ and RTX2080/2080MaxQ laptops - just not as much interest in the 2060s because of the lower performance. But as a mainstream product, with a 36% or so average increase from the GTX1060 Laptop GPU from what I've seen - I think it's a great upgrade.

    I'm thinking that it may be the Lenovo models just aren't quite done yet - we've only see pre-production samples at CES and the Asia Pacific trade shows. MSI and Razer models have already been released and end users have them and some outlets have posted their reviews already.

    This is the general review of RTX laptop performance - I didn't mention it since I figured everyone saw it already: https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...-Laptop-GPUs-Performance-Review.401266.0.html

    Note that the RTX2060 laptop in that has a very powerful CPU - which is why that notebook beats out others - which is why I posted the 3DMark links for the i7-8750H laptops since that's generally the type of CPU we're looking at with these Y740s

    Peter
     
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    I heard from Lenovo that though the site shows 7-9 business day availability, apparently it may not be until mid March when it ships... :/

    Peter
     
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    https://www.ultrabookreview.com/

    Check last two reviews: two 2080 Max-q laptops. You can basically ignore the scores, as these were early/pre-release models.

    We're seeing 5-15% performance increase with a 2080 max-q over a 1080 max-q (unless you are using RTX mode for the one game that supports it). Given the high prices, we say don't buy.
     
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    Thanks Eason, but we are mostly discussing the RTX2060 here. Y740 15 doesn't even offer RTX2080maxQ as an option (and old model of it was just GTX1050Ti). Myself and one of the other guys in the thread have got GTX860Ms or other old GPUs.

    Thermals and noises have been improved as has weight (and other features) in many models and it's a big boost from GTX1060 to RTX2060 while prices are similar (much less than GTX1070 maxQ models, even now). And I've found the Y740 especially is cheaper than all competing systems in my region by quite a bit (esp once all weekly/weekend sales/discounts are factored in - and Lenovo has them quite often I've found). It's not just about raw performance imho.

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    My bad, I didn't quite understand you wanted to see the performance specifically of that one.
     
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    With the 2060 it’s quite hard to know if it’s the full 2060 or max q because sometimes it. They say it as 2060 and that the 2070 is a max q. So you would assume that the 2060 is a full one. But other country sites say 2060 max q.
    It could be a deal breaker as a 2070 mq is £200 difference. But it’s not really worth it unless the 2060 is a max q


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    Hey sisqo,

    For any of these, it really depends on how they choose to implement. Going back years, laptop manufacturers were always adjusting the clocks on the cards in order to reduce the heat if they had a lousy cooling solution. Some reduced the performance greatly while others did not - and there were huge differences from one model to another between manufacturers or even from the same manufacturer - depending on the thickness of the laptop and so on.

    nVidia took it and used it for marketing with their "maxQ" designation - it's supposed to be a guideline for OEMs ensuring that if they are maxQ then the laptops don't get too hot or too loud - and it encourages thinner and lighter designs. But it still depends on the OEMs following it or not.

    All these RTX cards are the same as the desktop counterparts except for the difference in clocks (and wattage/power used). There is no RTX2060 maxQ officially - not yet - not that nVidia ever announced. I think it's just a translation issue in other countries that they are labeling it as such. The GTX1060 maxQ didn't exist until very, very late in the cycle.

    You can check https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2060-Laptop-Graphics-Card.384946.0.html.

    I really depends if Lenovo decided to hamstring these laptops they could have. That's why I can't wait to get my hands on one to test - or for someone to give a detailed review with performance, heat and noise details so we can judge.

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    Yeah thanks about that. Fully aware of max q and why. Thats why I asked as the best bang in terms of performance upgrade is the 2060 over the 1060, which is not too far off a 2070 max q.
    I’ll prob get 2070.
    This generation so far is so gimped compared to the 10 series in terms of how they stack up to their desktop parts.
    Remember a desktop 2060 matches a full 1080. But the 2060 laptop (non max q) benchmarks I’ve seen is getting around 1070 gtx desktop level.
    It takes a 2080 max q to achieve a desktop 2060.
    Although they are lowered clocks depending on manufacturers. This is a step backwards and I’m not in impressed. Was expecting a 2070 max q to out do a 1080, even at laptop level.
    However I still will prob proceed to buy one as I have no laptop now, Or get a 1080 max q laptop if it’s cheaper.


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    Sounds good sisqo. If it is simply about performance and all else is considered equal, then go for it and be happy :).

    I haven't purchased a desktop since I got my first laptop, an ECS G732 with ATi MOBILITY RADEON M9000 graphics in 2003 (my avatar). It had a desktop CPU and it was darned so loud and heavy.

    Since then I've been fine comparing laptop parts to laptop parts. I wouldn't consider sticking a desktop part in my laptop again. As long as this GPU is faster than last gen and preferably also in a quieter, lighter and cooler laptop while giving more performance per watt (and dollar) - I'm a happy camper.

    Peter
     
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    Guys, any idea on the number of lanes Thunderbolt 3 uses on Y740 Some of manufacturers are cheating while boasting about Thunderbolt 3 but use only two lanes. And for me it's a huge decision point to have future proof machine capable of using full potential of eGPU.

    Can't decide between Y740 17" and MSI GS75

    Thanks.
     
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    I tried to find this detail too for the same futureproof reasoning before ordering, but could not. Theres just not much detailed info out there yet.

    Even for the last gen model Y730 (out for months now) no one knows for sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/eGPU/comments/9tslvy/number_of_pcie_lanes_in_lenovos_legion_y730s/

    It will be one of the things I check when I finally get my hands on my Y740 15...

    Peter
     
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    Wow. The first laptop I remember with dedicated graphics had a mobility 9000. How time had flown. Back then I just wanted a laptop and thought that games would run as standard.
    And back then I realised I knew nothing when a guy in the shop started talking about “drivers” and I was just lost
    Now I’m pushing past 30 laptops.
    But saying that as you prob know. Desktop cpus do go in to laptops now so your prob all good (providing you have the right laptop)

    Yeah I wanted a gpu that’s about equal to a 1080 gtx. I had a 1070 for a couple months in my Alienware. I’d have another one but the laptop is kinda bulky. But the 1060 is what I mainly had. But because I had the 1070 for a bit. “Upgrading” I’d need To go stronger to really be happy.
    The 2070 max q will be sufficient but it would of been better if it wasn’t max q.
    Just wait n see if they have any special discount deals next week or just wait it out for a 9th gen which I’m leaning more towards. Would hate my cpu to be out of date a month or two later, even though it’d be my first time having a hexacore which would be an excitement in its self , last using a 7700hq. Then downgrading to a 6700hq.


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    @B0B Says the last gen model had a four lane thunder bolt 3 port. So this year should be the same. Hopefully.
     
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    I managed to digg out official manual for y740. Page 3 confirms that it runs on 4 lanes.

    https://download.lenovo.com/consume...01901.pdf?linkTrack=PSP:ProductInfo:UserGuide
     
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    So is this thing out or not? I can go on the Lenovo website right now and it says ships same business day. I'm tempted to cancel an order for the Area-51m because of the massive student/military discount that Lenovo gives and this thing checks all the boxes.

    edit: Customer service told me they are good to go :O Military gets a 25% off discount through Lenovo and they already start off lower than other manufacturers. I'm going to sleep, when I wake up gonna decide between this and the Area-51m... A huge price difference.

    Edit: Decided to order it. I like the form factor of the 15" more and the 2060 version after coupon came to around $1200, but I decided to go for more firepower. They have hassle free returns with 0% restocking fees if I don't like it. It says same business day shipping! If it is here by Friday for Anthem, I'll be overjoyed. I have 32gb of Corsair Vengeance 2666, 2TB ADATA 2.5" SSD and 500 gb Samsung 970 Pro NVMe ready to throw in too! I'm not sure what I'll do with the extra 250gb m.2 (not sure if NVMe in spec sheet) and 1tb 7200 rpm drive and extra 16gb of ram.

    Also note, going through Rakuten (ebates) gets you 3% cashback after the fact.

    Subtotal: $2,455.14
    Est. Ship Day: Ships same business day if your order is processed before 3 pm EST (excludes weekends and holidays)
    Shipping and handling: FREE
    [Coupon] -$580.00
    Tax: $164.08
    Total: $2,039.22

    Here is what I ordered:
    • Processor: Intel Core i7-8750H 6 Core (2.20GHz, up to 4.10GHz with Turbo Boost, 9MB Cache)
    • Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
    • Display Type: 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) NVIDIA® G-SYNC, 144 Hz, 300 nits, software enabled Dolby Vision HDR
    • Memory: 16GB (8GB + 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz
    • Hard Drive: 1TB 7200 RPM + 256GB Solid State Drive PCIe
    • Warranty: 3 Year Depot + Accidental
    • Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design 8GB
    • Keyboard: Backlit RGB Keyboard - US English
    • Wireless: Killer Wireless 802.11 AC (2 x 2) + Bluetooth 4.
     
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    Dude I’m in the same boat waiting on my 3400 Alienware area 51m. This laptop is the cheapest I can find with the RTX 2080. Also the 25% off is crazy. Thanks for posting this info in the area 51m forum. I’m getting one of these.


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    The Lenovo site now says that it will ship in 1-3 Business Days - but my order from Feb 3 is coming up as being shipped out mid March... I've contacted support but they've told me it is what it is and they have no idea otherwise. It does seem like people started recieving these in the past few days - maybe they just don't like me (or decided to push Canada down the list).

    I was able to find some benchmark comparisons with the Y740 here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/apckdp/compilation_of_laptop_rtx_graphics_benchmarks_by/

    It compares against the baseline of an RTX1070 Desktop card. The current compilation at this time is:

    "
    Average RTX 2080 GPU benchmarks (with standard deviation):
    MSI GE75 Raider 8SG - (7 samples) - 128% ± 25%
    MSI GE63 Raider RGB 8SG - (3 samples) - 143% ± 0%
    Acer Predator Triton 500 - (1 sample) - 112% ± 0%
    MSI GT63 Titan 8SG - (1 sample)- 136% ± 0%
    Asus ROG G703GX - (1 sample) - 156% ± 0%

    Average RTX 2080-MQ GPU benchmarks (with standard deviation):
    MSI GS65 Stealth 8SG - (3 samples) - 111% ± 5%
    Razer Blade 15 Advanced - (2 samples) - 119% ± 0%
    (Dell) Alienware m17 - (1 sample) - 117% ± 0%
    Lenovo Legion Y740 - (1 sample) - 112% ± 0%

    Average RTX 2070 GPU benchmarks (with standard deviation):
    Asus Strix GL704GW - (17 samples) - 108% ± 20%
    Asus Strix GL504GW - (14 samples) - 91% ± 38%
    MSI GE75 Raider 8SF - (14 samples) - 110% ± 20%,
    Eluktronics Mech-17 G1R - (5 samples) - 115% ± 4%

    Average RTX 2070-MQ GPU benchmarks (with standard deviation):
    Razer Blade 15 Advanced - (7 samples) - 102% ± 9%
    Lenovo Legion Y740 - (3 samples) - 103% ± 3%
    Gigabyte GA-AERO 15-X9 - (3 samples) - 81% ± 32%
    Eluktronics Mech-15 G2R - (1 sample) - 99% ± 0%

    Average RTX 2060 GPU benchmarks (with standard deviation):
    Micro-Star GE63 Raider RGB 8SG - (11 samples) - 84% ± 14%
    Razer Blade 15 Advanced - (5 samples) - 87% ± 11%
    MSI GS65 Stealth 8SE - (4 samples) - 67% ± 37%
    Asus Strix GL704GV - (3 samples) - 89% ± 1%
    MSI GE75 Raider 8SE - (3 samples) - 62% ± 43%
    MSI GL73 8SE - (2 samples) - 90% ± 3%

    *No laptops with desktop CPUs were included"

    Poor Aero 15 - there is something wrong with it I think - all the benchmarks have been so low. I'm very glad to see the Y740s so far are in line with the other laptop systems and hopefully that will continue when the RTX2060 models start getting benched.

    I am interested in the Y740 as a semi portable laptop (4.8lbs) as opposed to the much heavier laptop with desktop grade parts such as the Alienware 51m. Others can go ahead and do it, but I've already done it and I want a portable laptop system I can carry with me and use on the train daily during my 2 hour commute as opposed to a computer that sits on a desk and gets moved a couple times or a month or year :).

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    Yesterday I pulled the trigger and ordered Y740 with 2070mq (max what was available in my country) 34gb ram (will be running VMs) 512ssd. Fingers crossed and I hope no coil wine or bad screen bleed like op and other owners reported
     
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    The owner on Reddit did report coil whine when GPU is in use. He mentioned noise similar to his previous laptop (though he didn't post precisely which that was to compare). Battery results are there also:

    "BatteryEater reported 4 hour 40 minutes for the READER test on 50% brightness." (Before undervolting)

    He reported there is a "Hybrid" GSync option to save battery where GSync is only turned on when gaming (really sounds like a software implementation of Optimus).

    Lifting the laptop a little resulted in better airflow, lower temps and quieter fans - so having a small folding tray or we such may really help on that front.

    Exciting to have some real benchmarks and reports from an owner.

    Peter
     
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    My suspicion is that for the Y740 15" model they are only producing/shipping RTX2070 units currently. I haven't been able to find the Y740 RTX2060 units actually in stock anywhere - and my RTX2060 orders appear to be for immediate dispatch, but once I've paid they update to late March delivery.

    The Y740 15" RTX2070 model is now showing as sold out in my region (Canada).

    I realized I'm actually eligible for Teacher pricing since my wife is a teacher so I've placed a new order with 3 year onsite and ADP coverage. It was only $7 difference for 3 year Onsite vs. Depot warranty so it was a no-brainer. Price is only a little more than my original order because of the ADP - should be worth it - if I decide to keep the laptop I plan to keep it a long time. Plus my CC gives an additional 1 year of warranty on whatever the base is so I've basically got 4 years of full coverage for $140 CAD.

    We'll just see when I finally get it.

    Peter
     
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    When anyone receives their unit.
    Fancy trying out the timely benchmar with newest drivers.
    Wanna see the time spy “graphics” results not timespy “score” results or a pic will be fine.
    Thanks.


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    for some reason there is a massive markup for lenovo products in New Zealand, so the 2080 max-Q version costs 10% more than the aero 15 with 2080 max-Q in NZ :(
     
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    You are lucky, at least you can order 2080mq. In my country Lenovo Y740 comes only with 2060 or 2070mq max, while in neighbouring country only 2070mq or 2080mq. Beats me how their marketing department works...
     
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    are u looking at the 15 or 17 inch version? because only the 17 inch version has a 2080 max-q
     
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    I have the 17" with 2080maxQ arriving tomorrow. I'll do some testing and try to push it to throttle. I've had bad experience with i7-8750h thin+lights, so we'll see.

    I'm going to start off completely stock, then undervolt. Will run 3dmark (gotta get that firestrike score), userbenchmark, Intel XTU stress test. If anyone has specific requests I'll post them.

    I'm excited to try Anthem out on it. If it performs well enough I'm going to cancel my Alienware Area-51m order, but my plan is to have them side by side and put them both to the test. If the y740 suits my needs, I'll toss the Alienware. I don't really like the look of the 17" y740 though. The bezels are huge judging from the website. The 15" looks much nicer, but doesn't have the 2080. It seems the 15" is probably an amazing value with the 2060, but I want a little bit more power.
     
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    Can you tell me if there's fan control to manually set fanspeed to maximum in the included / available to download software package(s)?
     
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    Because 15" comes with chin camera while 17"with camera in normal location ruining the looks.

    Personally l I don't understand why they even are putting these potato cameras. Majority of ppl would agree to sacrifice them for more better looks and save couplet of bucks.

    If I need video I will definitely purchase external HD camera just because inbeded cams are just crap.
     
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    Yeah it is incredibly stupid that they continue to put those on there. The Asus Zephyrus GX701 dropped the camera and comes with a much nicer external. That was the one I was originally interested in, but its about $1200 more than the y740 with the same specs. Lenovo has great discounts, Asus not so much.

    I'm F5ing the tracking info every few hours :p Should be here anywhere from 10 to 18 hours from now!

    I'm installing Anthem and BF5 first. Will do a heft amount of benchmarking. I have a few papers due Friday though, so that comes first!
     
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    There should be control through the " Lenovo Vantage" software, I found that referenced in information about the Y730 but haven't seen it confirmed for the Y740 yet. "Nerve Center" is the old software from the older models.

    Hopefully someone can confirm it soon.

    Thanks very much for sharing and your thanks, I'm happy to hear I've helped :). I wish I could do more, I just didn't realize the release of the RTX2060 units was being delayed to make sure the more expensive models sell first.

    Here is a direct link to the translation for anyone who wants it:
    https://translate.googleusercontent...700248&usg=ALkJrhjW-BqgTt5Vn6Jud4r3MW_k_Lg6KA

    Thanks,
    Peter
     
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    Just finished reading. Good review and I can't be more happier with my decision to go with Lenovo Y740 and not GS75.
    There was mentioned Y750..... intriguing...
     
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    Very true. I wonder if they'll bump the number to Y750 when Intel releases their newest H notebook CPUs in a few months or if that'll just be a minor refresh (and Y750 is the 2020 model).

    I was thinking last night that if I have to wait till almost April to get my Y740, if the new parts get released before my 30 day return window is up... :p

    Peter
     
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    Here's someone who had issues with the Y740 Switchable graphics - it includes the link to where it change it in the BIOS and what they had to do to keep the system from freezing:

    "I just received my brand new Legion Y740 17"!

    From reading the guide at https://support.lenovo.com/dk/da/solutions/ht076090 I was under the assumption that I could switch to integrated graphics, so as to save power when on the go and I didn't need g-sync running and forcing the GPU on at all times.

    After rebooting with "switchable graphics" enabled in BIOS, programs become unresponsive. I have to hold down the power button to even shut down the computer. Even though I can click on shutdown, it does nothing. Do anyone have an idea about what's going on, or if I should just resign this feature?

    EDIT: In the end I would like to be able to set the "Prefered Graphic Processor" in Nvidia Control Panel to integrated Gfx for battery life"

    - https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming...able-graphics-causes-unresponsive/m-p/4359564

    I had read elsewhere that it seems in the Lenovo Vantage software in Windows 10 people also had this option already. Worth checking out if you have a unit and see which works/gives better battery life (while still having full gaming performance).

    It's too bad we don't have the little amber/white light like the MSI GS65 which shows the GPU status (amber when the dGPU is active and white when the iGPU is active).

    I can see a lot of people complaining about performance if it's not properly switching to using the dGPU when they game.

    Peter
     
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    Well took the plunge and got one, it’s hard to pass up the price for an RTX 2080 and to top it off I get 25% off with military. 2100 with tax with 1yr premium and accidental warranty...


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    Can you guys post some 3dmark firestrike and timespy scores with an overclock on your 2070 max-q y Y740 15 machines please?

    Would like to see how it compares to my TongFang chassis with the same GPU

    FYI, I get these results with +165 +650 on my lappy:

    FS: 18 441
    TimeSpy: 6 982 ( grapics score only for both)

    We should see similar results as both chassis are doomed with the 80W TDP limitation on this variant of 2070 MQ

    Cheers guys and enjoy your new Lenovos!
     
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    Hey! Did a quick unboxing with the help of my wife:

    My first youtube video :p
    Enjoy the chill stock youtube music!

    L I K E + S U B S C R I B E !!!! (no don't or do I don't care)

    Here is the description:
    Speccy Summary
    Operating System Windows 10 Home 64-bit
    CPU i7-8750h
    Intel Core i7 @ 2.20GHz 55 °C Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
    RAM 16.0GB
    Motherboard LENOVO LNVNB161216 (U3E1)
    Graphics
    Lenovo Display 1920x1080 (1920x1080@144Hz)
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design (Lenovo) 47 °C
    Storage 931GB Seagate ST1000LM049-2GH172 (SATA (SSD)) 26 °C
    238GB SAMSUNG MZVLB256HAHQ-000L2 (RAID (SSD))

    Quick Review:
    Pros:
    Great build quality, with exception listed below.
    Nice feeling snappy keys.
    Light for massive size.
    Nice cold aluminum.
    iCue RGB goes nicely. I have this software on all my computers due to my headset, keyboard, and mouse all supporting iCue.
    Very nice bright screen, with two caveats below.
    Fits in Everki Titan Messenger Bag and Alienware Vindicator 17" easily.
    Not a fingerprint magnet - except for the touch-pad.
    Vantage software has a 1 click or hotkey for "cool boost" mode, which turns fans to full blast (very loud!)

    Cons: Horrible bezels. The 17" should mimic the 15" and do away with the top camera.
    Massive immediately noticeable light bleed on first boot.
    Many bloat ware- suggest doing a clean install and spending some time tweaking the OS to your liking.
    Noticeable coil whine, but nothing I can't deal with. Will monitor under stress.
    Steaming HDR only. Confusing since Lenovo touts "Dolby Vision HDR!" Very disappointing and nullifies the advantage completely.

    Overall I like the laptop, but I'm not super impressed. I'm reserving my verdict until after some benchmarks and real world performance. The light bleed guarantees that I'll be dealing with customer service and I'm not looking forward to it.

    Still to come: Thermals, Benchmarks
    Currently downloading 3DMark, driver updates, Anthem, and Battlefield V

    Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/ELtf8b0
    Light Bleed
    Everki Bag
    Alienware Backpack
    Lenovo Vantage Software (Coolboost)
    HDR Settings Control Panel
    etc

    edit:
    Bios pics to come soon, currently doing an Intel XTU stress test. Power Limit Throttling after about 5 seconds.
    edit 2:
    undervolt offset to -0.05 seems to have eliminated power limit throttling. 10 minutes of testing at 75C, fans at about medium loudness.
    edit 3:
    I don't want to speak too soon, but I'm impressed. PL Throttle came back at -.05 after a minute or two. I went to -.140 (as per i7-8750h standard!) and the fans became quiet and temps under 70C stable.
    edit 4:
    In a dumb turn of events, the Vantage program seems to have auto updated adding advertisements and removing the cooler boost button. Dafuq.
     
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    Hi gthirst

    Thanks for all that juicy info

    I have ordered the same spec as yours. My main concern is the coil whine you mentioned.
    How bad is it? Could you record it and post it?

    Thanks again




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    edit 5: uploaded a bunch of other pictures and ran firestrike. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/18330316
    Never went over 74C, undervolt at -.140 score: 16383
     
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