Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

Hi, I also have a 2080 max-q version of the y740.
When playing very demanding games (like BF V) I also get the cpu to 90*C. Those temperatures are warm, but there are no problems with the CPU running at those temperatures ( https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...-8750h-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html ; https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...9750h-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-50-ghz.html )
As you can see from the official intel website, temperatures under 100*C are okay. Also, in case the cpu should really reach that limit, the CPU downclocks itself to prevent damage - so you dont need to worry at all.
Nontheless, I´d prefer lower CPU temperatures, as the Y740 has joined heatpipes, so rising temperatures of one component affects the other - in this case the RTX 2080 max-q.
So higher CPU temps result in higher GPU temps result in lower boost clocks and less gaming performance (though the 2080 max-q really is a beast).

 

Can anyone with the 9th gen and 1TB SSD tell me what ssd it is? You can see with Crystal Disk Info.

Also 9th gen 17 inch owners..how matte is the display? How well does it handle reflection/light? Thanks.

 

Samsung pm981.

I haven't tried, but I don't think it's suitable. In my office, when there's sunlight from windows, it's not pleasant to work on unless on max brightness (my opinion.)

 

Thanks for the replay...i'm on the verge of ordering the 9th gen 17 inch but keep on waiting for youtube unboxes of it to see how it handles lights..your replay made me hesitate on buying it for now..and keep waiting.

As for the SSD..that is a very nice SSD it's basically the "business" variant of the latest Samsung consumer NVME...the Asus Scar Strix II and III come with the very low priced Intel P660 (which has bad endurance and "Experimental design") one of the reasons i returned it..but the real reason was that it got so hot after the GPU bios update that the plastic case started to warp..

Though the best thing about the scar strix was the display..handled sunlight like a champ and was pretty good quality overall..

 

Actually Y740 temps are not too bad after some tuning. It is able to maintain clocks close to max, 3.4 on average under combined cpu/gpu load is not baf I think. Temps on stress test stay below 80 after limiting turbo boost at 3.1-3.2...I just expected more out of the box.

 

I got the Y740 15 inch with 9xxx cpu and the 2070 MQ. I will be testing it with this ( LINK), ill take some SS of my temps with and without when I get it.

Also keeping the notebook raised just an inch can help with temps for more air intake on the bottom.

Has anyone updated to new bios 1.10

 

Got my 2070 Max-Q with 9750H and Division 2 has seen quite a jump in fps as compared to the 2060 with 8750H: a 20.6% increase actually. From the same settings within the benchmark there is a marked difference. Quite impressed with the new CPU and not seemingly on par with the 2060 anymore.

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Another question... During stress test, when cpu gets hot, there's a plastic/rubber smell that comes out with hot air. Is it normal?

 

Alright, so to confirm a few things:
1. The screen seems absolutely amazing (no backlight bleed at all vice 8th generation with its issues) and going to Division 2 shows a change in colours illustrating actual HDR while gaming instead of just streaming like last generation. This display is the BOE083B and is better than the LG.
2. CPU seems hot still. No thermal throttling but even with performance mode engaged, it still gets into the 90's. Lenovo really needs to bring back the real Fn+Q for full fan control (didn't have it with Bios from factory and not on 1.10 either).
3. Peak brightness far surpasses the original.
4. 2070 Max-Q with 9750H is approximately 20.6% better FPS than 8750H and 2060 in Division 2; realistically this means that about 13% is attributable to CPU while about 8% is GPU which sounds about right.
5. The colour is the same. Iron Grey = Black. There is no shade difference at all.
6. RAM has changed; was Micron before, now Samsung.
I'll have more thoughts later but so far, I'm glad I went for the new generation based on the screen alone.

 

You shouldn't have to ask that question. Its just common sense, if something is smelling off your probably doing something to often like over stressing it or you need to have your system checked out by lenovo.

From my experience though this can happen with new laptops break in period where the plastic bitts get warmed up for this first weeks of use then it settles down some. That was with old alienwares though, i havent bought a gaming laptop since the Y740 in a long time. If it continues to happen and you dont do anything about it then yes common sense would say that their is an issue their that needs to be addressed.

I have not seen any other incidence of people claiming their legion laptops are smelling like they are burning though. Common sense would say the laptop needs some breathing room, meaning if your stressing the crap out of it you need to have it proped up a bit from being so close to the base to allow more air flow into the bottom of the machine. Also in a air conditioned house with low humidity. You dont want to be stress testing your laptop in 60% humidity directly in the sun.
This is not a 2 inch thick Clevo with desktop parts that you can let bake all day long stressing it out with out anything happening.

Regardless, thanks for posting about your experience with your laptop. It helps others when problems arise.

 

So if you run both in max fan in dx12 on preset ultra settings. What does each rig achieve in FPS?
Thanks


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Averaged 71 fps in the benchmark. Adjusting a couple settings that don't affect graphics much at all brings it to 78 fps.

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Oh and the 2060 with 8750H was 58 in ultra and 63 with the same settings

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I have been deciding what to buy between MSI and the lenovo y740.. But today i decided on trying the y740 and see if keyboard, performance, noise, screen was ok for me to use.

I bought the Lenovo Legion Y740-17IRHg ( 17.3" / i7-9750H / 16GB / 1TB SSD M.2 / RTX 2070 maxq/ Win 10).


Screen: seems pretty ok, not to much BLB.

Keyboard: Not liking it yet for typing, I am used to another type of keyboard so we will see if I can learn to like it.

Noise: when running firestrike the machine got a bit louder but completely ok noise levels. I dont have a decibel meter sadly so it is hard to say, but it feels like a low tune which makes it be less noticeable for me atleast.

Performance (firestrike v1.1):
Stock (performance mode) gave
Firetstrike score of 15168
Graphics of 16779
Physics of 16929

UV CPU core and cache by 110mv
OC GPU Core and mem by 150 & 300 gave
(still performance mode in vantage)

Firestrike score of 15 812
Graphics score 17 624
Physics score 17 136

Temp max on GPU was 75 and the CPUs max was between 80-90 (average max around 85).
Average was lower but i forgot to check HW info directly after the tests.
Sorry for the text results, but i dont know how to add screenshots
Are these decent results?

Edit: ingame in witcher 3 the cpu temps goes to 90+ in average... definately higher compared to in the stress test.

 

Temps are comparable to mine. Scores are slightly lower than mine. I have a 2080 gpu, though.

 

cool, thanks for the input.
It seems like good cooling and pretty quiet on everyday use. I hope the keyboard will grow on me

 

Hello,

My question is about the HDR in Division 2 on the new 9th gen models, so now the tab that's greyed out in the graphics menu is now available to switch on? What about windows HD color? Is there a tab in that windows menu to turn on "Play HDR games and apps"?

Thanks.

 

I am not completely sure what you are asking

Anyway in settings for windows HD Color i found functions for screen:
The screen had a yes for stream videos in HDR
however it was a no for "Play HDR games and apps".

 

Has this been confirmed?

The 81UF0000US model with the 1660ti says the display is g-sync.

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptop...-y-series/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-15/p/88GMY701059

Edit: I just saw BassTek’s post above where he links an actual product page and the g-sync is not listed in the display section...

https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Len...40&irgwc=1&PID=27795&acid=ww:affiliate:bv0as6

Lenovo really needs to update their sale page as they are misleading customers who are buying a laptop thinking it has g-sync when it in fact does not.

 

I understand it is a matter of taste.... But I actuAlly like the keyboard

 

I guess my question is more for Kalen as he mentioned HDR on Division 2. The in game selector for HDR has been greyed out before on the 8th gen.

 

No longer greyed out. Can enable play games and apps in HDR in Windows settings and can select between HDR auto and HDR10 as shown. Screenshots are washed out in HDR mode though which is strange:

 

They feel a bit shallow, I guessed i am used to deeper strokes.

What I am considering outside of the keyboard, that i guess i might get used to is;
1. Screen brightness. When i keep it at 100% i like it. I just wonder if a brighter screen that could be used at perhaps 60-80% normally would be better long term. I guess this also is something i will adapt to (using 90% now).
2. Thermals, they are really good. However I like the fan control in MSI where you can set custom fan curves. in witcher 3 the cpus goes a bit hot from time to time (above 90). Would have been good to be able to set these manually so different games can be better customized.

I will decide next week if i return it. However i doubt that MSI which will cost 400 euro more for the same specs will have better thermals.

I realise i perhaps sound a bit negative, but i really like the computer. It is not completely silent, but i can easily play witcher 3 without headphones so it is a comparatively silent computer
And the firestrike scores (when Uv/OC) is really good and pretty high firstrike score for a 2070 maxq, Witcher 3 seem to play in the high 60s on average.

 

Does anyone here have a 15” 9750h 1660 ti 500 nit Legion?

Gsync is officially NOT on this unit?

 

Several folks on various platforms (Lenovo forums, Reddit, here) have reported the 1660ti unit not having gsync, and Lenovo's prospec (or whatever it's called) specifically has a display without gsync noted as a feature. Bit of false advertising for sure.

 

Bummer. Anyone have one of these that has verified Gsync?

I’m thinking of ordering one and upgrading the battery for a video series.

Without Gsync is sort of a bummer.

 

I have the 1660ti version of the Y740, and of course Gsync has not worked for me. I had a 1 hour and 18 minute conversation with Tech support today (my third tech support call) where I gave him control of my machine, and he installed gpu and monitor drivers, etc.... I had already done this so I knew it wasn't going to work. He claimed that all machines with this configuration should be Gsync enabled. They clearly are not. I have to give this guy some credit because he was working really hard to fix the problem and was being very patient. He concluded that my panel was bad and started setting up a support ticket to have a new panel FeDexed to a tech and installed on my laptop. I'm putting that on hold, because it would be an amazing coincidence for everyone who ordered the 1660ti to have a bad panel. I'm going to look into returning the laptop tomorrow and getting a 2060. I'm not sure what the return policy is, but they clearly have an issue with these machines. I'm fairly confident it's fixable with a future bios upgrade, I'm just not sure how long the wait is going to be....

 

Finally got a good long gaming session in on my Y740 15" (9750H and 2070MQ) after getting it about two weeks ago... AND now I have a stuck blue pixel. Right in the middle of the screen too...
Since Lenovo only covers 3 or more stuck sub-pixels, looks like I'll be returning it inside my 30-day window. Shame too... wondering what I should try next...

 

Are you referring to the 15 or 17 inch version? or both?

 

I have the 15" 1660ti model and can confirm it doesn't have G-Sync. Still not sure if I will return it, I have a few more days to decide. I have not seen a 1660ti model with G-Sync enabled on a forum yet. The bad part is that the screen replacement part number for both the G-Sync and non G-Sync versions is the same so the screen should support it, likely it is just software disabled to save a few bucks on G-Sync licensing.

 

I’ve seen manufactures update their bios to enable this. The G5-793 did this a few years ago for example.

I hope Lenovo can make this right, right now.

 

Tested some firestrike on my i7-950 2070maxq 17" Y740.
Some UV -125 on both and +150/+300 in MSI afterburner
The computer is nice and quiet.

However I might return it due to the keyboard. Otherwise i would definately keep it.

 

How well does the display handle light/reflections? Is it matte like a regular laptop or more semi-matte? Can it be used in room with natural light?

Also what issues does the keyboard have? Keys too shallow?

Thanks.

 

I'm heavily considering getting this. Anyone know of a good coupon for the store ?

can someone also tell me if there is both a 300 and a 500 nit version for the i9750h version ? I cant see the 500 nit version anywhere so I guess i'm just wondering if i'll have to squint to see what's happening on the screen or not.

 

15 inch has 500nits.
I havent seen 17 inch with 500 nits preconfigured, though.

 

I wanted to get the y740, but Lenovo has a bizarre way of doing business that is putting me off. Their UK website didn't feature any of the new legions until about 2 months after they were on sale in the USA. Now they have 3 configs of the y540 and only one for the y740 (top spec with 2080 maq only) for £2800 in the UK while there are many more configs in the USA that are much cheaper and have discounts.I asked in chat when more configs will be available for the y740, and the guy said "we don't have that information". A company that doesn't seem to be interested in doing business here. Also what happened to the 500nit screen they were advertising would come out, predicted to be in June. No mention of it again. Thinking of buying another laptop since Levono can't seem to get their act together.

 

Ended up reinstalling windows for other reasons, so far getting about the same battery life on the 76Wh Battery, when not gaming I seem to average 3-4 hours (screen at 60-80% brightness, wifi on, fairly low CPU usage with bursts), which seems to line up when I ask other people what their battery on similar laptops with similar batteries is, as well as what various reviews say.
Overall it makes it much more usable on battery, I don't feel like I need to just plug it in every time I sit down anywhere to program, but still not quite as good as I hoped.
I'm going to try setting the refresh rate to 60hz and see if that improves battery life as lately I've barely even been gaming so I may just have to live with switching when I do game.

 

Ah i see. Thanks.

I'm wondering if there is a decent performance jump with the 2070 model (with the 9750h) from the 2060, since there certainly is a price jump. Also wondering which would be quieter and cooler. If anyone could answer these I would appreciate it

 

From whatvI have seen - not much. I took 2080 because of machine learning... Extra memory is useful here. There is a guy (gamerdad) who did comparison between 2060 and 2070 and claimed there was not much difference. There's a link to his review somewhere at the start of this thread.

 

Hmm thanks. I'll have a look at it.

I would order the 2070 with 32 gigs of ram. But I could get the 2060 with 16 gigs, upgrade to 32 gigs and still save about 10 percent. Just wondering if it's worth it. Both from a performance perspective, but would also really like to know if there is a noise difference between the two ??

I would assume the 2070 does raytracing better ? I wonder if that can be used for renders within maya.

 

Not too much of a difference. I had a i7-8750h with 2060 and just recently upgraded to the i7-9750H with 2070 Max-Q and saw about a 21% increase in fps for The Division 2. However, given that game is CPU intensive, I think about 13% of that increase is due to the new CPU (which is in line with most other tests) while only about 8% is attributed to the GPU. I have the 15" (and have stuck with that through and through as I also had the i7-8750H with 2070 Max-Q before and returned that to keep the 2060 model which I recently sold to upgrade to the new model). There is a very minor difference between the 2060 and the 2070 Max-Q (5-10%). Hope that helps.

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Lenovo are always a little slow on adding UK support for laptops. Not really sure why but we are a business customer and I see it all the time with UK/EU releases. They did have a short supply of the new 15" i7-9750H with 2060 and 500nit screen available last week but they have since sold out. The 17" £2800 model is the last gen. The USA will always have cheaper deals as their market is different as well as tax. It is what it is. I personally will be ordering one to New York and picking it up when I am there next month.

Still nervous about the keyboard though, I didn't love it when I received my 15" y740 with previous gen i7

 

Thanks ! I appreciate the response. Have you noticed any differences in noise and temperatures ?

 

Nope. Same fans and architecture. Really want them to bring back the max fan option as it will now go up to 91 degrees vice before where it stood at about 88 max.

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Advanced menu in bios is accessible via debug mode.

You can access this by entering the bios, hitting FN + (hit every key on the keyboard individually. what i did was just drag my finger across the rows of keys), then hit F10, yes. Then hit FN+F2 (or just F2) and enter the bios. Boom, debug mode.

 

It's 80W on balanced or auto mode, but pressing Fn+Q and selecting performance mode switches it to 90W.

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What else is in there settings wise? Take a pic?

 

Yes, for me the keys feels a bit shallow. but i am not sure yet. I got lucky with the black light bleed on this display, so i really wanna be sure before i decide to return it.
The screen is "regular matte" and i have no reflection issues at home, but I dont know about natural lights.I can hopefully check the natural lights in the morning before going to work. Will get back to you on that.
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