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    Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E430 Quick Review

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Andrew Baxter, May 4, 2012.

  1. Andrew Baxter

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    I've been using the ThinkPad Edge E430 the past couple of days and just posted a full review and figured I'd give the "quick review" version here for forum members that might be interested. The Edge E430 has a chiclet style keyboard, which could be a preview of things to come ;)

    I truncated some parts of this from the full version, but I think the important points are here. If anyone here is considering the E430 for their needs and has questions then feel free to to ask here.
     
  2. Pseudorandom

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    Does the screen still open full 180 with the new hinge design? Is the new keyboard backlit?
     
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    Negative on the backlit keyboard, that's only going to be an option for the premium ThinkPad line (X230, T430, W530). No ThinkLight on this E430 either.

    Good question on the hinge, I can't say I tried and since I left the machine at the office can't report back right now but will update this post tomorrow with the info!

    UPDATED: The screen can only swing back to about 135 degrees open with the drop hinge, not the full 180 degrees. I can't really think of a usage scenario for the 180 given the viewing angle won't really support it.
     
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    :) Does it have wwan antennaes and sim card holder built in for later upgrading with a internal mobile broadband modem? (like other thinkpads do) Thanks
     
  5. Andrew Baxter

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    It has a SIM card holder underneath the battery, you just have to remove the battery to put it in. The antenna looks to be there to support this as well. On p. 68 of this manual it references how to do an installation/removal of the WWAN:

    http://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/0b48438.pdf
     
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    Good review. Funnily enough, the E430 actually resembles a "traditional" ThinkPad more than some of the earlier Edge line...

    AFAIK it also won't be on the T430u (though it should be on the T430s).
     
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    Thanks for a nice summary. FYI, there's misinformation on the Lenovo website. Their product comparison checklist says an integrated webcam is standard on all Edge models. However, this is no longer the case. When I went to customize an E430 it asks if you want a 720p camera for an additional $30. I asked if this was somehow different from the integrated webcam. That's when Lenovo said the webcam is no longer standard. They need to update their website! Very irritating.

    Also, if you want Bluetooth you need to be sure to upgrade to a WiFi card that included "BT" in the name.
     
  8. Pseudorandom

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    I would think that prosumer/SMB would want backlit keyboards even more than the enterprise crowd, surprised it wasn't included. Oh well.

    Standing over a whiteboard table would be my primary use scenario for 180 degree opening. Niche, but it seems not too niche for normal Thinkpads to cater to me, unless there are other use scenarios for 180 degree hinges I'm missing.

    135 seems a bit low of a maximum angle though. Depending on the chair, using my laptop on my lap generally is 150-160 degree open.
     
  9. Andrew Baxter

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    Interesting, you can never predict how something will get used or what features are important, so chalk up the screen angle max as another factor I hadn't considered.

    I don't have a protractor handy but will take a picture of it fully open and post back tomorrow.
     
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    Does it come with an expesscard slot? The previous-gen E420/E520 had one.
     
  11. Andrew Baxter

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    Unfortunately not, Lenovo dropped the ExpressCard slot in this generation for both the E430 and E530.
     
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    Thank you for the confirmation. As they are missing expresscard slots and have no Thunderbolt port, the E330/E430/E530 are going to be off the Ivy Bridge DIY eGPU recommended candidate list. I hope the HP Probooks and Dell Vostro still keep the their expresscard slots or (unlikely) introduce Thunderbolt ports.
     
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    I like the new keyboard layout but they got the headphone jack on the lower right side, don't know what they're thinking there.
     
  14. ahaider7

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    Which thinkpad is shown fully open at 180 degrees here at the page:
    ThinkPad | Edge Series Laptop PCs | Lenovo Australia

    Seems to be E430.
     
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    No, its a Edge 11 ;)
     
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    how do you like the edge e430 I was looking at it with this configuration.

    Description
    ThinkPad Edge E430 - 1 Year Express Depot Warranty Edit
    Processor: Intel Core i7-3612QM Processor (6MB Cache, 2.10GHz) Edit
    Operating system: Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 bit) Edit
    Operating system language: Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 - English
    Display type: 14.0" W HD (1366 x 768) LED AntiGlare, Midnight Black Edit
    System graphics: Intel HD Graphics (WWAN or mSATA capable) Edit
    Total memory: 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1 DIMM) Edit
    Keyboard: Keyboard - US English Edit
    Pointing device: UltraNav with FingerPrint Reader Edit
    Camera: 720p HD Camera Edit
    Hard drive: 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm Edit
    Optical device: DVD Recordable Edit
    Battery: 6 cell Li-Ion Battery 62WH - 75+ Edit
    Power cord: 65W AC Adapter - US (2pin) Edit
    Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: ThinkPad a/b/g/n Wireless BT Combo (2x2 ABGN & BT4.0) Edit
    Language pack: Publication - US English
     
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    Gee, E430 is selling for under $600. Two yrs ago I bought my E420 with the lowest config for above $700, but I love it.
     
  18. Andrew Baxter

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    Where are you seeing this with the new Ivy Bridge processors? That's a nice configuration, I can only find older Sandy Bridge processor configurations on Lenovo.com though.
     
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    ^ ^ It is available through Lenovo SPP. I already posted about it here. If you look at the specs sheet, it lists as having the HM77 chipset, and three USB 3.0 ports.
     
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    No expresscard, webcam optional, still heavy, thick, battery life nothing to write home about(sort of), screen doesnt open up to 180 degrees, no thanks, Ill pass.
    Another watered down Lenovo consumer crap machine with ThinkPad name on it.
    Id buy one only if it costed 400$ lol
    Still, Edge 15 that Ive used was good purchase some time ago(its not mine and Im not using it), but its 2 generations/refreshes old laptop!

    But thanks for your review, Andrew, well made as usual ;)!
     
  22. Andrew Baxter

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    I hear what you're saying and know that when compared to a T430 or (more unfairly) the X1 Carbon the E430 looks like a klunker, but the price at around $500 is attractive. It's a decently built notebook and when you're on a budget it can be more appealing than say a Dell Inspiron 14.
     
  23. pepper_john

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    I have both an E420 and a Dell Inspiron, the latter gave me nothing but trouble while the former just silently does its job, no complaint, no strike.

    It's interesting that many people (I was one) buy notebooks only by the specifications.
     
  24. soccrstar

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    sorry for the super long delay, I guess I forgot to setup it up to receive email notifications

    [​IMG]

    a little hard to see but i7 ivy bridge definitely an option.

    in fact, I bit the bullet and placed an order. I'm even more happy after seeing the t430 datasheet and they dont even offer a quad core for it! course it may change.

    this is the system I ordered... I opted for the hard drive accelerator aKa Micro SSD 16gb. also just realized the wifi chip i ordered is an unknown brand despite being the most expensive. overlooked the centrino wifi card. granted I don't have anything that uses WIDI so not really missing out much.


    Processor
    Intel Core i7-3612QM Processor (6MB Cache, 2.10GHz)

    Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)

    Operating system language Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 - English

    Display type 14.0" W HD (1366 x 768) LED AntiGlare, Midnight Black

    System graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 (WWAN or mSATA capable)

    Total memory 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1 DIMM) [I'm ordering a 4gb stick online to put in as soon as I get it!)

    Keyboard Keyboard - US English

    Pointing device UltraNav with FingerPrint Reader

    Camera 720p HD Camera

    Hard drive 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm

    Micro Hard Drive Hard Disk Driver Performance Booster

    Optical device DVD Recordable

    Battery 6 cell Li-Ion Battery 62WH - 75+

    Power cord 65W AC Adapter - US (3pin)

    Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters ThinkPad a/b/g/n Wireless BT Combo (2x2 ABGN & BT4.0)

    Language pack Publication - US English
     
  25. Mr_Mysterious

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    Battery life?

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  26. Andrew Baxter

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    Depends on usage patterns of course, but you can squeeze out nearly 6.5 hours on the 6-cell if you're extremely conservative. More realistically would be 4 - 5 hours at full screen brightness and doing halfway intensive work.
     
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    Really? That's kind of low for a laptop with an iGPU...where's all the power going?

    An X220 can go for 7+ hours, no problem :eek:

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  28. Pseudorandom

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    The screen probably. It's 14 inches remember, the X220 is only 12.
     
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    When customizing this laptop at lenovo.com, there is an option to include an mSATA ssd (small capacity, 16G) for Disk caching. In default configuration, the mini ssd will not be visible to user in windows.

    Will it be possible to turn off disk caching, and install a large sized (80g/120g) msata ssd. In such case windows could be installed on ssd and a regular hard drive will be available for storing larger amounts of data.
     
  30. soccrstar

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    Yup it is totally possible! I formatted the sandisk u100 ssd to ntfs so I can benchmark it! Then I deleted the volume and installed expresscache. It gets bout 250/65 (read/write) sequential.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. ahaider7

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    Thanks for confirmation. Would you go in a bit more detail. What steps are required to make the ssd available as an additional hard drive.
     
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    Format it just like any regular hard drive! :-D. When it's in or least for me it came unallocated so I simply formatted it to ntfs and assigned it a drive letter!



    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    This review and discussion of the mSATA SSD drive has convinced me to get one of these.

    So just to be clear, the mSATA SSD drive goes where the PCI Express for Wireless LAN would go, correct?
    And I would be able to boot from said SSD, correct? I'm planning on putting the OS on it.

    Thanks.
     
  34. soccrstar

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    ahh I bit the bullet and under a recommendation I ended up putting the OS on mine and love it! 20 second boot times! its a whole new computer! On top of that I now have 2 Hard Drives (128GB Msata SSD [OS], 1TB HDD [ On Board Storage] and 1 DVD Drive in my E430

    I have the MydigitalSSD (Rebranded Adata SX300) 128GB which comes up to 119GB Formatted. I used a CLEAN Windows 7 Dvd. I used a software to copy over my license onto the disc. so I was activated and ready to go activation wise.

    Just make sure you put the SWTOOLS folder on DVD! Mine was 4.5+GB so I compressed it to fit on a dvd. and just put it back after you finish installing. install the drivers and you good to go! :-D

    I have pics on my phone that show you where it goes. LENOVO couldn't have made it any easier. there one screw that you unscrew on the back that pops up a cover and you put the msata card there. you do need a screw! I ordered mine with the 16gb msata so already had the screw there. once you screw it in. its all set.
     
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    Great posts on your experience with the E430, soccrstar. Many Thanks!

    Your experience inspires me to get an E430. May I seek your input on three issues?

    1. Before installing Windows on the mSATA SSD, should the HDD be (temporarily) disconnected? The E430 I'm about to buy comes with Windows 8, but I'd install Windows 7 on the mSATA SSD. (I won't use Windows 8, thus no need for dual booting.)

    2. Where is the SWTOOLS folder, and why is it necessary to put it on a DVD? If I'm going to clean install Windows 7 on the mSATA, is the SWTOOLS folder still required?

    3. So it's better NOT to use ExpressCache if one can afford say a 128GB or 256GB mSATA drive. Correct?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    hi i am from E430 Lenovo and Lenovo G580 and get them at the same price, have the same third generation i5 processor, 4 GB, 500 hdd. there are many differences? which heats less and has better performance? both are plastic, which is better? which do you recommend if I get almost the same price?
     
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    The size? E430 is 14", G580 is 15".

    If you need to move the notebook a lot and travel with it, the E430 is the better choice. If the notebook will spend most of it's time on a desk, the G580 should be fine.

    As far as heating and performance, I'm not sure as I have the E430 and a Y580, and they're different as the Y580 has i7, 16G ram, GTX-660, etc, etc. I do know that when I need to take a notebook somewhere and get some work done, I always take the E430 as it's a LOT smaller, lighter, more compact and is more than adequate for what I use it for. And it doesn't seem to get even warm. For everyday stuff, there's virtually no difference between the two in performance, only when you do something that's a little more intense does the extra power in my Y580 start to make a real difference. If it had the same CPU, perhaps the performance would be the same, as the two seem to be very similar in regards to internal hardware.

    That's about it really. The E430 travels better.

    FTR, the E430 has a 32G mSATA SSD as a cache drive, it came with the Y580 which ended up with a 120G SSD boot drive. That all by itself makes a noticeable difference.

    Stu.