There was a sale recently for the P1, and it seems like it is just a rebranded X1E. Seems like a solid machine. I tried convincing my worplace to buy some of the P1 for cheap (was 1200dlrs for the i7 8750h version) and I hope I can get one to try it out.
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Richard Zheng Notebook Evangelist
Sadly, that GPU (Quadro P2000) is a full 1GHz down on GPU memory clocks vs the 1050ti and you can't use afterburner to bump it back up... -
I imagine, I knew the P2000 was weaker than the 1050ti, or so I had read. But we don't use these GPUs other than work and the heaviest loads are things like AutoCAD or E-Plan etc, things that this GPUs can easily handle, yet the intel iGPUs tend to choke on.
It's not an ideal GPU but for what we use it for, it works fine.custom90gt likes this. -
Richard Zheng Notebook Evangelist
I agree that it is fine, but it sucks that professional users get a handicapped card and are unable to make up for the difference via software. I wish they didn't drop the memory clocks so aggressively -
What bothers me the most is the huge price differential between GPUs. The cost of support and drivers is too high imo.
And just like you said, you also have to deal with partially handicapped hardware.custom90gt and katalin_2003 like this. -
custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator
But the big thing about Quadro GPUs is the stability of the card. While a percentage of error is ok in a 2080ti, it's not ok in a Quadro that is running calcs/encoding video/whatever a professional person is doing on it. It's not handicapped hardware, it's much less prone to error hardware.
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Richard Zheng Notebook Evangelist
The additional cost? For me the P2000 and 1050 models are the same price. Only the P1 has 2x 256 GB SSDs and the X1E only has half the capacity at half the speed.
Agreed, but that is mostly due to software rather than hardware IMO. There doesn’t seem to be any onther differences apart from those clock speeds and drivers.Last edited by a moderator: Apr 4, 2019 -
custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator
No there is plenty different from my understanding. It's better quality silicon running at lower (less error prone) speeds...katalin_2003 and toughasnails like this. -
Richard Zheng Notebook Evangelist
I’m sure it is binned better and runs at lower speeds for safety, but the option to manually OC to make up for the difference would be nice. AFAIK you are locked out from afterburner -
custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator
Yes but it's intended to be error free for professional use. They can't promise error free operation if they allow it to be overclocked. It's not the same demographics as gamers/home users...katalin_2003 and toughasnails like this. -
Not so long ago, both professional and regular GPUs were the exact same hardware, with difference only in software (both firmware and drivers). It was possible to buy a normal GPU and then mod it to become a quadro GPU and give you the same benefits.
Nowadays they do have varying hardware, but its main difference is still software, which, as you said, its made with stability in mind. Pro's need the support whereas gamers will first complain over the forums before calling actual support
I do particularly hate when you can still find "quadro" hardware that is so old still sold around on mayor manufacturers. To the point it is not properly supported by new versions of software. But this is not really an issue most of the time.Vasudev, custom90gt and katalin_2003 like this. -
I meant for the hardware when seen in vacuum (without a PC). Not this particular case, as even the P1 we got for the office was much cheaper than expected.Vasudev, custom90gt and katalin_2003 like this.
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme benchmarks + temps
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