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    Lenovo ThinkPad manufacturing sites

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by richardlai, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone here confirm which site manufactures which series of the Lenovo ThinkPads? I have heard that IIPC in Shenzhen makes just the T series, but I failed to find any evidence on that.

    It would also be great if anyone can shed the same light on the IdeaPads as well. Thanks in advance.

    This page lists the official manufacturing sites: http://www.pc.ibm.com/ca/about_lenovo/locations.html
     
  2. alacrityathome

    alacrityathome Notebook Consultant

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    Richard,

    My T61p bought in Dec 07 has DNA evidence from Singapore.

    Alacrity
     
  3. chubbyfatazn

    chubbyfatazn Notebook Evangelist

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    My R61 originated in Shenzhen, so I take it that they are built there too.
     
  4. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Notebook Evangelist

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    My understanding is that none of the OEM's actually manufacture laptops, except Asus and Compal. OEM's such as Lenovo, Dell, HP, Apple and Acer only order, configure and market laptops that are designed (sometimes with input from the OEM) and manufactured by ODM's (original design manuafacturers) such as Compal, Quanta, Wistron, etc.

    The "factories" owned by OEM's only configure laptops, that is, add an HDD, CPU, RAM, disk image, Wifi card, etc. The factories where they are actually manufactured are operated by ODM's and are all located around Shenzhen and Taipei. Practically all the world's laptops are made there.

    A single ODM factory may make notebooks for various OEM's (e.g. Dell, HP, Sony). Each OEM orders laptops from various ODM's; often, the same OEM model is ordered from at least two different ODM's (so that OEM's are not dependent on a single ODM).

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2127906,00.asp
    http://www.displaysearch.com/cps/rde/xchg/displaysearch/hs.xsl/5605.asp
    http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS163949+07-Jan-2008+BW20080107
    http://www.emsnow.com/newsarchives/archivedetails.cfm?ID=18911
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=210580&highlight=compal+wistron+quanta

    The last two links above show that Lenovo laptops are manufactured by Quanta, Compal, Wistron, Pegatron and Asustek, though, of course, I don't have personal knowledge of this.
     
  5. bsodder

    bsodder Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Fuzzy - that was a real education. An interesting note was that Lenovo actually gets LCD modules from 4 different manufacturers - but I guess they only use the LG and Samsung in T-series.
     
  6. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    BaldwinHillsTrojan Notebook Evangelist

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    Compal or Hon Hai for the T. Wistron for the X. Final assembly on both by Lenovo itself on Shenzhen then transported across the border to ship out of Hong Kong to you. There is no DNA with respect to Singapore other than the MSFT OEM license is from Singapore. Bunch of legal reasons for that between MSFT, Lenovo, and China. Lenovo may just let the ODMs handle the whole thing in the future.
     
  8. gamemint

    gamemint Notebook Evangelist

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    great info Fuzzy thanks
     
  9. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    Cool, but can you point me to any source that confirms your comment? No offence but other people have said different things, and I just want to be able to quote from an official or reliable source.
     
  10. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Notebook Evangelist

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    You're welcome.

    Now, if only we could find out how to identify the factories where various models of notebooks are made, or at least the ODM that made them, we would have a hope of predicting the reliability of the various models.
     
  11. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    That is exactly what I was hoping someone would say too.
     
  12. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    So no one can quote their sources?
     
  13. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    I think it would be too disruptive if such information is leaked, which is a reason why OEMs never readily publish their ODM information. There's no business advantage in doing so.
    Anyway, many such information would be published in Chinese where the whole ODM world is concentrated, so you are looking in the wrong place.
     
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    SpacemanSpiff Everything in Moderation

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    drjohn Notebook Consultant

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    Well as a personal data point, I just received an email today from Lenovo which tells me my R61-14.1" just shipped from Shenzhen, China... to Hong Kong... and on its way to me. So it looks like my R61 was at least assembled and packaged somewhere in Shenzhen.
     
  16. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    That info is very useful. Thanks a lot.

    I guess I'll have to dig into Chinese websites. It's good to know several languages. :)
     
  17. richardlai

    richardlai Notebook Consultant

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    My point is that people who have said who made what have so far failed to say where they got the info from. I just want to know where all this info came from, so that in the future I can quote from there as well.
     
  18. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Notebook Evangelist

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    According to this article, Thinkpads are made in Shenzhen, China.

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_08/b4072042350389_page_2.htm

    The article says that the design concept for the Thinkpad X300 specifically came from the USA, but the detailed design, engineering and protypes were done in Yamato, Japan.

    The article also says that the X300 is now being made, apparently by "women in blue Lenovo smocks," in a "ThinkPad factory" that occupies "a six-story concrete building in a free-trade zone" in Shenzhen.
    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_08/b4072042350389_page_4.htm

    However, at least one other article has said that Lenovo is totally outsourcing production, including final assembly.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=210580&highlight=compal+wistron+quanta
     
  19. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    That point talks about how Lenovo does a trial run of the assembly process. Many OEMs do it as they need to find the most efficient method of putting these notebooks together and fix any design flaws that may not become apparent until you start manufacturing them in vast quantitites.
    Once they work this out, they may outsource it to their partners to assemble these units, according to the precise specifications and instructions prepared by Lenovo.