Lenovo Y50 Owners and Information Thread

Yeah I'll let you know how it all goes. That seems kind of silly though that it wouldn't be able to handle it. If it can't I wont be a happy camper. I'll let you know about colors/ viewing angles. Maybe post some pics besides a MacBook Pro or an Asus.

 

My 1TB SSHD was replaced with a 512GB SSD. No issues. Anything that fits that supports the SATA specification will work. There is no legitimate reason why a certain drive will work and another won't, if they both support SATA.

 

Hi guys.

What about the temperature? really warm? (if I play a long time - Diablo3, WoW, Rift, BF3, BF4, Titanfall etc) or not really?

Is it a good laptop? or choosing another laptop?

Sorry my english is bad Thx.

 

More proof that the reps have no clue about computers. Good Lord lol

You can put any ssd you want in there. Most are 7-8 mm thick which will be fine.

 

I imagine, he thought the question was if any of the touch models offered included a SSD. Perhaps confused by the language barrier?

 

Temps are decent. I got a max of ~74°C after playing for almost 2 hrs BF3 for my CPU, when in idle I reach ~45-50°C. The GPU gets somewhere around 60°C under load, when not gaming its obviously inactive.
Some people called the cooling bad, don´t exactly know how they reached hotter temps. My old Asus reached 90-100°C for CPU and 90°C on GPU and it still runs after 4 years, so I would call it decent cooling on the y50

 

The temperatures are surprisingly good given the size of the machine. The CPU/GPU are the same as the ones in my Clevo, and the Y50 runs cooler than the (thicker) Clevo. Quite impressive really.

 

Gotta send this one in for repair; the left speaker is definitely defective, and the wireless problem is a no-go. Unfortunately I cannot return this thing for a refund, so it's off to Lenovo after only 2 days.

 

So does anyone actually own a y50 touch with an ssd installed on it?

 

The only reason people claimed the cooling to be bad was because of the high temps when the y50 is under full load and running double stress tests. I personally couldn't care less of stress test temp results,since you will most likely NEVER be running GPU and CPU under full load in everyday usage. I play games for hours and the max CPU temp is 74c in only one core while the other 3 cores are high 60's. My GPU stays low 60's. The temps for this laptop are amazing for its thin chassis, idk how anyone could say its bad.. unless they got a defective one

 

Hello, I am about to cancel an order placed through Lenovo. I am looking to get the y50 touch model number 59421835 (touch, 4710, 16 GB, 4gb 860m). Does anyone have a suggestion on a good place to buy one, and receive an AUO monitor? If you currently have this laptop with an AUO monitor, can you tell me where you ordered from? Thanks!

 

so you are telling me temperature limit on turbo boost at 65°C/throttling under max load/cooling an i7 by only one heatpipe that is shared with the gpu is called good cooling?

you can try to use throttlestop to force turbo boost to stay on after the temp limit and you'll see how that goes

 

Where do you have the 65°C from? Does that apply for ever i7 mobile core? Of course one single heatpipe is not the best possible equipment, but as long as it does its job, I´m fine with it

 

Just bought one and cleaned out the massive bloatware. Other than that this thing is a beast. Got it (up here in Canada mind you) with the touch and I/7 for 1500 all in at least 100 dollar cheaper than everywhere else has it here.

The only thing I had to fiddle with was the screen colours. The Blue is WAYYYYYY too high and the green needs to come down slightly on the calibration. Matched it to my Samsung 23 inch monitor/Hdtv in movie mode more or less and now it's perfect and looks great, it was just apparent that the calibration was not set properly out of the box. Viewing angles are not great but I do everything on external monitors any ways except work at school.

Interested to see if anyone has proven that any SSD fits in the HD bay as well, Lenovo making it too small to fit large one seem like an unlikely screw up and the last thing I need to change eventually is the 5400 RPM hybrid drive cause obviously that isn't going to cut it for music production and performance.

But yeah so far 4.5/5 9/10 easy and quiet as hell too. My ASUS G51J sounded like a tool and die factory while I was sleeping.

 

At that price I'm assuming you got the UHD? Or the SSD version?

 

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

According to notebookcheck review the CPU turns off turbo boost as soon as the CPU is loaded, running at only 2.4GHz. Even if temps are only around 65C.

This has nothing to do with the i7 chip, must be programmed into the bios.

Same review also shows surface temps of up to 60C on the lefthand side of keyboard..... just where most People keeep their hand while gaming!.

And the FullHD screen is one of the worst FullHD screens I've ever seen, low brightness and low contrast.

Time to wait and see what Asus could provide with their G551, it can't be worse than this I hope!

 

The y400,y410p,y500 and y510p all have similar throttling issues. I just use Throttlestop to enable constant turbo on the CPU.

 

Asus won´t be in the same price range... most likely.

 

Okay...

I somehow got into the hidden options in the BIOS, but I cannot remember how. When I got there the first time, it was just after mashing F2 quickly to get into the BIOS, but I got the advanced menus instead. Anyone know how to get back in?

 

I have a stupid question... I am a recent owner of the Y50 non-touch version, and so far, I am in love with my laptop, it is even better than I thought. The only thing that bothers me a bit is the battery life...

Anyways, could you please tell me, if it is possible for me to connect the Y50 to my HDTV using HDMI, but using the NVIDIA card to play games, or is the HDMI slot on the Intel graphics card? If it is on the intel graphics card, are there any other solution for me?

Thanks!

 

All games can be run by the Nvidia chip through HDMI.

 

That's a good review. Thanks for sharing.

I never noticed the CPU not turboboosting as much, but I guess it just means it's unnoticeable for normal use.

In regards to the surface temperature the review says:
"Our load temperature measurements were performed after an hour long of full CPU and GPU stress, so most users will not encounter our extreme numbers during everyday use. However, expect some sweaty palms after longer gaming sessions." As an owner I think that's true as well. It was a strange design decision for Lenovo to place the CPU/GPU under the left hand but under normal use it's still usable.

After reading other owners' comments on the 1080p/FHD screen and my own experience with it, I think we have to accept that it is, as the review says, a "budget screen". It definitely has room for improvement and as I have been saying professionals and people who care about excellent screens should stay away from it.

It's interesting to me that even with all its flaws the review still gave the Y50 a score of 80/100. That's equal to the MSI GS60 Pro 3K (see MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K Edition (2PEWi716SR21) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews) and near the Gigabyte P34Gv2 ( Gigabyte P34G v2 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews).

Having owned the Y50 for a bit over one month and replaced the hybrid HDD with a 840 Evo SSD, I feel satisfied with its performance and I don't regret the purchase.

 

I don't agree with their scoring system. Poor laptops tends to get 75-80 rating (as in laptops with major flaws, like extreme throttling, very poor screen etc), average laptops gets 80-85, and good laptops gets 85-90.

The reviews are still worth reading, as they includes battery runtimes, noise loevels, heat levels and screen quality tests.

Today I'm sitting on an Asus N56JR, and so far I've not found a better overall package, was hoping this new lenovo would be a great alternative, but it's not. Worse screen, CPU turbo boost not working properly, runs hotter and louder, well you get the picture So right now I'm hoping for an N56JR update with GTX850M/860M instead..... looks like they name that G551, and since it has an "G" in model name they will probably up the price A LOT making in less attractive.

 

First thing that comes to mind - I wonder if you'd have the same problem with Windows 8 .. perhaps there is some driver with your downgrade to Windows 7 that isn't performing.

 

your bio determines when to put on a thermal limit for your CPU. in this case, y50's bios turns off turbo boost around 65C, which is why you don't feel much heat normally. it's not that cooling is good, it just limits the performance to keep the temp down

notebookcheck somehow made a mistake on the fan placement

"The Y50 is cooled by two system fans - one small fan for the CPU and one slightly larger size for the GPU - each with its own heat sink."

both cpu and gpu are shared by the two fans, and there's only one heat sink. CPU's heat pipe is also shared with the gpu

 

The notebook check review states the 4GB 860m is a Kepler chip. Can anybody with the 4GB version confirm this?

 

Fixed my left speaker problem; removed the bottom cover and speaker and found a random screw that was magnetized to the speaker outside the paper cone. NICE, Lenovo.

 

"At that price I'm assuming you got the UHD? Or the SSD version?"


No, just the touchscreen version for modulation control in my music, the Lenovo site sells the 4gb 860 obviously for more than this, the UHD is more, the SSD is more. I got it from Canada Computers the next day and after reading some horror stories about Lenovo shipping times and seeing that the 4gb touch would be 3 weeks or so before I get it. I'll take the dent in my pocket for now. I'm not a massive gamer, I want this more for the processor and chipset (which I will ironically use more of it in music production than gaming) and the 860's rendering power for video projections. It would be nice to have one of the higher variants but I wouldn't have save much at all if anything from what I can tell on Lenovo Canad. Canada Computers had it on some online order discount, and a store exists a block from me if I run into a problem in the next week. I don't mind paying a little more to avoid a hassle in waiting for it and I needed it bloatware free and customized to my liking before September semester of school. I may be wrong in saying I got it for some fantastic price but it beat Tiger Direct and Newegg.ca easily who has a nazi return policy. 1500 is after taxes in Canada and the 10 bucks in shipping, with taxes the 4gb model would be another 75 bucks at 17 % hst from Lenovo, I think I made out fine and maybe could have save 50 bucks with another week of research and waiting for a month because I think my variant is WAY backed up at Lenovo.

 

Where did you find that? It has maxwell 860M, can see that from clockspeed. Kepler has base clockspeed around 800MHz, while maxwell has base clockspeed around 1000MHz.

Also quote from the review:

 

If anyone needs a VGA output, this adapter works perfectly even without the microusb plugged in. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the HDMI port is powered.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00879DM56/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Anybody having problems where the "close programs to prevent information loss" error comes up when playing games like Tomb Raider and Sleeping Dogs?
It's happening a lot and it's getting pretty annoying.

 

Yeeup! Typing on it right now. Model # 59421835 (Touch, I7 4710, 16 GB, 4GB 860m). I installed the SSD myself - took about 10 minutes, only issue was pulling the back off where it attaches to the hinge section. A little scary, but it came off finally. I can verify that this is working with a Samsung 840pro and just screams through programs. Load time on Skyrim is ridiculously fast. I can't even read more than the first few words on load screens (and "no, it's not because I read slowly).

I cloned my drive instead of install from scratch, and ran PC Decrapifier and CC Cleaner. Wanted to keep some of the Lenovo tools that work pretty good.

Hope this helps!

 

Sorry I couldn't find that specific model anywhere else other than Lenovo when I was purchasing. I was one of the first to place an order around the Memorial Day sale (plus student discount). I almost cancelled it, but I'm glad I didn't. Pretty much got everything loaded to the max and have the AUO panel. Not sure if Lenovo is swapping panels now, but there's probably a better chance of getting the AUO via them vs. purchasing elsewhere.

Hope this helps!

 

Raulgalarza75, thank you so much. I might stick it out then and see what Lenovo gives me. How long did it take to ship from your order date? You ordered the same laptop as the one I listed?

 

People with the UHD 4K mentioned problems with scaling programs. I was wondering would there be scaling problems if you set the screen to 1920x1080 as well?

 

Out of couriosity: What energy setting do you use, when you are browsing the web?
Because many mentioned ~3hrs battery life being near max...
I´ve been using the "download" setting in the Energy Manager, have spent the past 2hrs 45mins surfing the web and reading PDFs while listening to music, and screen brightness set to 50%, started out at 90% battery and now am at 38%. The estimated battery time shown now is 1h 41mins left.

 

I guess the way the review is worded is ambiguous.

Quote from the review

"Though all Y50 models include a GTX 860M GPU, there are two different 860M models available - a GM107 model based on the newer Maxwell design and a GK104 model based on the older Kepler design."

I read more into it than I should have.

 

I finished Tomb Raider and I didn't have any problem with my Y50.

 

Hey guys, I have a question about using ThrottleStop to stop CPU throttling on the Y50.

I've been playing Twilight Princess on Dolphin emulator (which is very CPU-intensive) and reached an area of the game where everything slowed down to a sucky 20fps. I want to be able to play the game with at least 30fps and so decided to see if the issue was CPU throttling and ThrottleStop could help. Dolphin should only utilize 2 cores or threads because it isn't optimized for multi-core processors and so the i7-4700 chip should be turning on Turbo Boost and going to 3.4GHz. Strangely, when I open ThrottleStop at idle it says my CPU speed is ~3.4GHz and shows 8 threads - does that mean maximum Turbo Boost is somehow on for all 8 threads and they're all hitting 3.4GHz instead of the base 2.4GHz? Core temperatures are apparently around 40-50 degrees Celsius according to ThrottleStop even though the laptop feels cool to the touch. As soon as I turn on Dolphin emulator the CPU speed instantly drops to 2.4GHz though all 8 threads are still listed. Playing the game like this causes slowness and lag in the area I'm currently in (~20fps), though it does keep all CPU temperatures below 80 degrees Celsius.

If I turn on ThrottleStop before running Dolphin I get a consistent 30-35fps and the gameplay feels smooth. But for some reason the temperatures for all 8 threads start to go up like crazy - why does this happen if Dolphin is a dual-threaded program? The temperatures for the first two cores do go up higher (over 90 degrees within 10 minutes of playing) but the temperatures for the other threads still go as high as 80 degrees Celsius. Why??? Unticking BD PROCHOT causes even smoother gameplay but makes temperatures go up even quicker. When the max temp on the first core hit 98 degrees Celsius the CPU throttled down to 1.6GHz regardless of ThrottleStop and the game became completely unplayable. As I understand, this is due to Intel's in-built throttling that was triggered by the super high temps to protect the chip.

So what I can't figure out is whether or not Turbo Boost is on (it should be because Dolphin can only utilize 2 cores), why the CPU temperatures are going all the way up to 100 degrees Celsius (though the laptop still feels relatively cool to the touch), why the temperatures for the latter cores are going up at all when I run a dual-threaded program, and how to set up ThrottleStop to give me a consistent 30fps in the game without frying my CPU or getting severe hardware throttling. This is my first time using ThrottleStop and I don't really know what I'm doing. Any help is much appreciated!

 

Guys, i just received my y50 fhd. The first thing i did was not even turning it on. I opened the laptop and changed the hd. I have installed a ssd. Now, when i start the laptop, it says there is no bootable device (even with my pendrive on it with the windows iso. Yes it is bootable)
What can i do?

 

I've not got the laptop, I'm considering it at the moment. I do know that dolphin can just 3 cores however if you have LLE audio enabled.

 

see this is exactly what I have said before. your bios has a temp limit of 65C on turbo boost so as soon as you hit that temp, you won't have turbo.
all i7 processors have hyper threading, so 8 threads is just normal.
turbo boost goes by cores, all your cores can go turbo, if only 1 goes turbo to the max, it's 3.4ghz, all 4 is more like 3.2ghz, the more cores the lower turbo can reach

if you uncheck BD PROCHOT, it means you are cancelling bi directional PROCHOT signal which means your processor will continue to run at max performance but as I said before, with y50's cooling, it's gonna get really hot with possible throttling or even system shut down.

you just pulled up a very good example of how y50 lacks in cooling

 

The strange thing is that the laptop still feels quite cool to the touch even when ThrottleStop is listing core temps of 90+ degrees Celsius. So regardless of actual CPU temperatures, Lenovo did a great job redirecting heat away from the user. The WASD keys feel warm but nothing unmanageable and the ZXC and arrow keys I use when playing Dolphin are barely hot at all. And unlike in the Y500 and Y510p, the fan exhaust isn't to the sides of the laptop where it can hit your hand but right up in front of the screen where it is basically unnoticeable. The bottom of the laptop also doesn't get hot at all, so it is perfectly useable on one's lap or on a bed without burning anything. Compared to the MSI GS60 Ghost, which can reach surface temperatures of 80+ degrees Celsius (on the bottom of the laptop) and has core temps as bad as the Y50's, Lenovo did a good job with heat management.

Anyways, I do still want to figure out how to get acceptable core temps since I don't want to damage my CPU. It looks like all 4 cores are heating up when running the dual-threaded Dolphin, which is extremely strange. Probably the excess heat from the neighboring cores is contributing to the insane 100 degree Celsius temps on the first core. Maybe ThrottleStop is preventing the cores from sleeping and is feeding them a lot of power regardless of how little they are used? Is there a way I can manually put 2 cores to sleep using ThrottleStop or another program? I'm hoping that with half the cores securely asleep I will be able to run the first two cores at 3.4GHz without the CPU overheating.

 

Access the BIOS and check the boot options. Enable USB boot, set it as first. Set Legacy boot as second(assuming you wan to boot any OS but W8). Again if you don't use W8 there is another option in the boot menu(can't remember the name), set it to "other OS".

 

Also, can I increase the turbo boost temp limit from 65 degrees to 90 degrees in the BIOS? In that case I may get much better framerates without having to use ThrottleStop and potentially fry my CPU. If possible, are there any risks to doing so? As far as I know 90 degrees Celsius is quite a safe temperature for the CPU, right?

 

Hello,

I am interested in purchasing the Lenovo Y50 59421855 but cannot buy it on the Lenovo website as they do not accept international credit cards. The only other seller selling the same is a seller called Klick Online on Amazon who claims to be an authorized Lenovo dealer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00KD5DUR2/ref=dp_olp_new_pads?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Would it be safe to purchase the same from the above seller?

 

to answer your question first, usually turbo boost does it automatically so if you need to boost two cores then it boost two cores. Intel has its own controller for turbo boost so you should be only boosting however many cores you need, unless you are running a stress test.

running with throttlestop should be the same. I haven't tried to manually set a limit on how many cores to turbo and I don't think there will be an option for that because it has an algorithm for that already.

you can check out the guide if you want but I don't think it'll be that helpful http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...arket-upgrades/531329-throttlestop-guide.html


back to cooling, no, from the fact that they placed the CPU near the WASD area just showed how they didn't put enough consideration. they should've just inverted the entire cooling placement at least, if all the other problems are ignored. from the fact that they put only one shared heat pipe to cool an i7 quad core CPU already shows how y50 will suck at cooling. putting a thermal limit on the CPU is the most irresponsible method of cooling. why would consumers pay for an i7 if they can't use the full performance of it? even if typically you don't need it, you should still have the option to use its full capability.

notebookcheck didn't bash too hard on the cooling because everything else at the same price level or even higher sucked badly too, but that doesn't excuse lenovo. they had the potential to do better and it's not even about money, think about it, if lenovo is willing to pay for COPPER HEAT SINKS, then there's no reason to cheap out on cooling. alienware, higher end clevos and most MSI get cheap aluminum heat sinks, that's the difference. it's not that they aren't willing to spend the money, it's just poor design. the main problem is still cooling placement, if they placed everything a little differently then it'll have much better cooling.

at the very least, why didn't they just put an i7-4702hq or 4712hq like razer did? it costs the same, it has less TDP, less heat, slightly less performance that the majority of people won't give a crap anyways. they've had so many options to have better cooling and they went with none of them

imo, cooling is arguably the most important aspect of a laptop

keyboard sucks? hook up a mechanical one
touchpad sucks? use a mouse
speaker sucks? bose/senheiser/all those other headsets & sound system exist for a reason
display sucks? swap a panel or use a larger/more comfortable external monitor

all those can be fixed or gotten around with through some ways of another, the only thing you can't really fix is cooling
lenovo had the potential to make itself stand out among the rest, but it chose not to

 

I have just two options in my bios: uefi and legacy mode. In legacy it works, but if i change to uefi it still says no bootable device.

 

Do you mind sharing what screen calibration settings you changed yours too? I went ahead and changed mine to "picture" mode, and set the color settings to "Brightness: -5, Contrast: 50, Gamma: 1.2". However, my screen also appears to be way too blue/green.

 

Can someone please tell me if the UHD will scale programs correctly if you change the screen resolution to 1920 X1080. The way I understand it now is that programs will not scale correctly and text will be blurry if you use 4k resolution but if you change to 1080 then everything will scale right, can someone confirm this?