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    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Dantei, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. Dantei

    Dantei Notebook Consultant

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    Tech Specs

    Processor
    • 9th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-9750H
    • 9th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-9300H
    Operating System Windows 10 Home
    Graphics
    • NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2060
    • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1660 Ti
    • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650
    • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 3G
    Display 15.6” FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, up to 144 Hz, 72% color gamut, and 300 nits
    Memory
    • 8 GB DDR4 2666 MHz
    • 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz (2x8G)
    • 32 GB DDR4 2666 MHz (2x16G)
    • 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
    Battery
    • Up to 5 hours
    • 52.5 Wh
    Storage Up to 1TB PCIe SSD or up to 2 TB HDD
    Audio Harman® speakers with Dolby Atmos® for Gaming
    Dimensions (W x D x H) 14.4″ x 10.2″ x 1.02″ / 365mm x 260mm x 25.9mm
    Weight Starting at 2.3kg
    Color Raven Black
    Connectivity
    • 2 x 2 802.11 ac + Bluetooth® 5.0
    • 1 x 1 802.11 ac + Bluetooth® 4.2
    Ports / Slots
    • USB-C
    • Mini DisplayPort™ 1.4
    • 3 x USB 3.1 Gen 1
    • HDMI™ 2.0
    • Ethernet
    • Kensington® lock slot
    • Audio combo
    • NOVO hole
    Keyboard White-backlit



     
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  2. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I'm currently torn between this and the Y7000P/Y545 (same model, different markets).

    Seems mostly to be an aesthetic difference.
     
  3. codeHusky

    codeHusky Notebook Guru

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    Y545 cools worse than the Y540. It's not mostly aesthetics, it's the literal internals being that of the Y7000, a model that cooled poorly. Lenovo's just calling it Y545 in the US, probably to mislead people.
     
  4. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Do you have links/references alluding to its poor cooling? The only two reviews I looked at both praised the Y7000P for its cooling, which is something I value greatly in laptops. The YouTube review looked at the new 9th gen, and even mentioned it was relatively quiet for a gaming laptop with good thermals.



    https://www.techradar.com/reviews/lenovo-legion-y7000p-review
     
  5. codeHusky

    codeHusky Notebook Guru

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    This is the Y540's heatsink
    upload_2019-7-10_19-32-47.png
    This is the Y545's heatsink
    upload_2019-7-10_19-33-42.png

    As you can tell, there are two less vents on this machine, making overall less surface area that the fans are cooling. Everyone I've talked to that has one of these units, be it the chinese version or the US version, faces high temps at 45w (like 85-90C under gpu/cpu full load) as opposed to lower temps (75-85C, sometimes higher on combined load) on the y540, at 55W or so. Keep in mind the wattage increases are WAY more important than the temperatures alone, as higher speeds result in higher wattages, and vise versa.

    YouTube reviewers generally do a poor job of determining how well a laptop performs thermally, and I'd say the Y540 is a better option performance wise in ANY situation.

    Tech Radar is no exception, either.
     
  6. Richard Zheng

    Richard Zheng Notebook Evangelist

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    Any update on 76Whr battery mod? Cause if it works this might just be my next laptop.
     
  7. codeHusky

    codeHusky Notebook Guru

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    Battery and laptop still have yet to arrive.
     
  8. Dantei

    Dantei Notebook Consultant

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    What do u mean by battery mod?
     
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    Replacing the small battery with a larger one from the 17 inch model
     
  10. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Well my order of the Y540 just shipped, once I've gotten it and played around I might post a quick review.
     
  11. Dantei

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    With gf1650 or 1660ti?
     
  12. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    1660ti, i5-9300.
     
  13. Dantei

    Dantei Notebook Consultant

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    What about temps? My i5 version is pretty hot.
     
  14. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Laptop is arriving on Thursday, I'll let you know then. I'll likely re-paste and undervolt it, like I do to pretty much all my laptops.
     
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    Turns out you have a point, seems the Y545 does get hot. I wonder if this is limited to the i7, or if the i5 also gets this hot.



    Sent from my SM-G970W using Tapatalk
     
  16. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Also, did you undervolt your CPU? Seems to be a general consensus that the 9th laptops (especially the i7) really benefit from an undervolt. The laptops that run cool are often shipped with a factory undervolt.
     
  17. balkeet

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    This channel has good y540 videos
     
  18. balkeet

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    Y545 review
     
  19. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    The laptop arrived yesterday, started playing around with it and doing some testing. Undervolting the CPU made a huge difference, about 10C drop in temps under load. Mine came with Optimus turned off by default ("hybrid mode" turned off in the Vantage software), turning it on made a difference too (no need for the 1660ti to be used when not gaming).

    Using a cooling/laptop pad also made a difference. I'll see if changing the TIM (thermal paste) on the CPU/GPU has any effect at some point.
     
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    Instead of using cooling pad try elevating the rear of laptop by placing small object, 1 inch clearance should be there. Using balanced thermal mode will also lead to less temperatures than performance mode.
     
  21. Lagom

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    I am very interested in this config (9300h + 1660ti). Can you say anything about the cpu temp compared to the i7? All reviews seem to be with the i7, and a bit hotter than I hoped for. If the i5 is not cooler I might as well choose the i7 instead.
     
  22. Ramzay

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    I just ran Unigine Valley for two hours, got the following readings (-0.13v under-volt, laptop placed on a pad, ambient room temp of 25.5C)
    Average CPU: 74C
    Average GPU: 64C
     
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    Thanks! Not sure what the corresponding values are for the i7 setup, but seem good just considering the temp. I will check back regularly too see if you post any more.
     
  24. Dantei

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    Undervolted y540 -125mV - crashes.
     
  25. Ramzay

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    Yes, each CPU is different as to how much it can be undervolted. Some people reach as much as -150mV (which caused mine to crash). I'm currently at -130mV, which seems stable. The silicone lottery will determine how much of an undervolt your chip can handle.

    Played some WoW (1080p, high settings, ambient room temp 25.5C, laptop direclty on desk, -130mV UV).
    Average CPU: 63C
    Average GPU: 58C

    Keyboard temps:
    WASD area: 34C
    GHJ keys: 38C
    Right-side arrow keys: 32C

    When playing "modest" games, seems to run relatively cool and quiet. But when the CPU+GPU are stressed, it gets somewhat hot and quite loud. You'll definitely need some headphones if you run some more demanding games - the fans are very noticeable.
     
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    Nice, thank you. At what frame rate? I don't really plan to play the most demanding games, so I think this would work for me.
     
  27. Ramzay

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    I turned VSync on, so it capped at 60fps. When I get home I'll run it unlocked, see how high it goes.
     
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    Right, wasn't sure if you had 60hz or 144hz screen. Looks like it is difficult to get hold of the 60hz screen with the 1660ti in Sweden where I live. So I was thinking I would go with the 144hz screen, but realistically not play games in 144hz very often. 60 hz is what I am used to. Maybe I can cap the game at about 60 hz anyways.
     
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    I noticed the y540 with a 17" screen wasn't listed in the original post - I happen to own one.

    my laptop has the 17" 144hz 1080 screen (matte), i7-9750h, RTX 2060, 16gig ram and 256 ssd + 1TB HDD

    I've tinkered with it a bit and I've managed to UV cpu by -0.250 core/-0.130 cache with Throttlestop, and for GPU I've OC'd to +185 Core, +1185 on the memory using MSI afterburner.

    Seems pretty stable, no bsod, only a rare window closing if the laptop gets too warm.

    I'm not sure if the 17" model allows for more air flow compared to the 15" chassis, but based on what I've seen on posts about the more common 15" model - I can get similar if not better thermals with my laptop with the same oc or uv applied.
     
  30. Ramzay

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    Looks like 65-85fps depending on the zone/amount of players.
     
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    Meanwhile repasted the laptop. Used GC Extreme and now temps went down around 10C.
     
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    has anyone replaced their SSD yet? If so, which brand/drive? I was on another forum and someone said y540 is single sided so we can't use the double sided ssd.
     
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    You mean replace the M.2 SSD? Personally I would leave the default M.2 in place for the OS and add my own 2.5" SATA SSD.
     
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    Like I did myself.

    Switching to PCIe x4 won't change a thing. Stick with the original SSD.
     
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    Yeah, because my configuration is only a 256gb, I am thinking about getting an external enclosure to use that and put in a 512gb or 1tb. Also going to swap out the 1tb HDD to a sata ssd, more research to be done...

    Yeah, just upping the size but wondering which M.2 people swapped to.
     
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    Anyone has sound crackling issue from speakers while on battery in y540 like watching youtube?
     
  37. Dantei

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    No, mine's totally fine. The speakers aren't so good as my previous ASUS UX533FN but still enough for me.
     
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    ok, and have u tried connecting it with hdmi cable to any other display? Is the sound from other display is ok?
     
  39. Dantei

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    Connected with a 55" TV Samsung KS7000. Works great. No problems here.
     
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    Another quick comparison between the two.



    Sent from my SM-G970W using Tapatalk
     
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    Need Max fan option back from Lenovo, then y540 can beat Helios 300 for best laptop of 2019
     
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    And why is that? It's already cool enough? No thermal throttling on my side.
     
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    I just ordered 81SX0001MX, which is 15 inch 144hz, 9300h, gtx 1660 ti, 2x8GB RAM, 512GB 2280 SSD.
    Thanks for the help!

    Pretty excited, I hope it will be perfect for me.
     
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    Hi all.
    I hope this is okay to ask, how would you rate your battery life in 'hybrid mode'? That and possibly how you gauge the laptop with regards to durability. (to be carted around daily or travelled with)
    For my half my usage, this laptop seems to offer the best performance for the money (in my region), above average speakers and fan noise are a plus too. Still for the other half I'm concerned about how it'd stand up to being taken everywhere and the better screens and batteries in the X1E and XPS 15 sway that but their thermals and price aren't nice. (not to mention questionable everything for the XPS)

    Gotta compromise, and am leaning towards this. Any reports of it are appreciated.
     
  45. Lagom

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    I can't answer your questions, but there are 3 reviews of different configurations of the y540 on notebookcheck. And they test the battery too, so you should be more informed after checking them out.
     
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    Ah I must've missed one. Went over two but was hungry for some more insight. Thanks, I'll look back.

    I was somewhat hopeful that some users had eeked out a bit more battery run time from them than seen in the reviews but I guess at this price point that's hoping for a bit too much. :p
     
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    What's the general build quality like? I'm in need of replacing a v. old 17 inch HP Probook. Gaming is low down as a priority and the spec is overkill but I like the styling and all black design of the Legion as opposed to the current business grade machines. My only concern is whether it would be even close to being as rock solid.
     
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    Yes build quality is rock solid
     
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    I have ordered a Y540 from Lenovo's homepage with these specs:

    Intel i7 9750H
    17,3" FHD (1 920 × 1 080), IPS, 300 nit, 144 Hz
    32 GB (16+16) DDR4 2 666 MHz SoDIMM
    256 GB SSD, M.2 2280, PCIe-NVMe, TLC
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GDDR6

    I paid about 1274 USD for it (No OS included), I think it's a good price for that performance. I will add a 500GB SSD to be the secondary drive.

    I'm going to install Win10 Pro from a USB flash drive and I'm wondering which Lenovo applications I should install? Lenovo Vantage seems like a must-have.
     
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    Yes vantage, select switchable graphics in bios, disable auto updates in vantage
     
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