Hey everybody,
At first i wanted to say hello.
I'm new in the forum and i read a lot of threads before i decided to register here.
Hope my English is not so bad, that you can understand what i mean.
I've got 3 problems with my laptop.
So on i got a Lenovo Y580 with a TV-card installed on it and in the Transportbox there was the Antenna Kit too.
My main problem is now, that my Lenovo shouldn't have a TV-card, but it still have one.
So i decided zu open the Case on the backside to look for the plug, because on the right side, left from the dvd/br-drive, there is no plug socket,where i can plug in the antenna.
As i opened the Laptop yesterday i saw, that a cable goes from the TV-card, beside the dvd/br-drive to the place where the socket should be.
I dismantled the drive, in hope, that i can see, where the cable ends, but without success.
So i want to ask you, what i can do with this "half TV-tuner".
My second problem is that the left corner of my touchpad seems to be a little bit loose. Cause, whenn i tap on it more on the left side it had a little clicky noise. I read here many threads for sending lenovo the laptop back via using the guarantee, but i don't want a laptop with another failure back. So i want to try it on my own, because every thing else seems to work perfekt.
And last but not least my third problem is the reinstalling of a fresh, clean windows-installation.
I read, that, when i change the partition size, the okr-funktion broke and won't work anymore. So, and of the reason, that i want to install an ssd to, i decided to wait with reinstalling.
Maybe you can help me with this problem too, instead of giving me the links i can't find. I know that here is, at least one thread, where i can read more about my last problem. :-(
So at last i only can say thank you for help and i say sry for my at some text places badly used english. Maybe you can correct me.![]()
Yours New member Markus
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Markus from Autria Notebook Enthusiast
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Hi Markus, and welcome to the forums!
It doesn't seem like the y580 comes with a TV-tuner card option that I know of. I would contact Lenovo to see what they have to say about that.
Just last week I got my y580 brand new from Lenovo too, and the touchpad also makes a small "clicky" rattling sound when I tap it (this is not the clicking of the left/right buttons). Tapping on the palmrest or the rest of the case does not produce a sound. The touchpad doesn't appear to be loose, but something under it vibrates when it's tapped. This doesn't bother me, and the touchpad works fine. I don't think its a reason to send back the laptop, but if the touchpad is malfunctioning for you or is completely loose, I would contact Lenovo.
Here are some links that should help with installing Windows to an SSD: https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=+site:forum.notebookreview.com+lenovo+y580+ssd+install&sa=X&ei=IVFiUJv3LpHqiQKX7YDACA&ved=0CCsQrQIwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=ae2e0ae9cac9fb81&biw=1280&bih=871. Sorry I don't have more specific info, but I know there are several threads on here that provide help with SSD stuff.
Hope this helps!
PS: Your English is fine -
Hope it helps! -
Markus from Autria Notebook Enthusiast
Hello mr_kings,
At first Thank you for your answer.
I got my Lenovo back from the Support Center.
They hadn't changed anything.
On the Repair-sheet stands that my touch pad seems to work fine and they had not changed anything and they suspect that there only was a user error (sry, i don't know the exact voc. thats just the word google translator give me for the german "bedienungsfehler").
The missing Anntenna port....they don't observed it.
The "best" thing at this fuc*** support (sry for that word, but you will understand later in this text why) is, that i had put a sheet with the whole error description in the laptop, so that they know, how the "clicky" sound arised and what my problem is with the tv tuner card (port is missing).
As you can imagine, i contacted the lenovo support via telephone and ask the support member there, what was going wrong at my laptop.
I had to talk to this incompetent member over 30 minutes so that he know, that my laptop still hasn't an antenna port.
In this 30 minutes this "awesome" member insinuated me that i don't find the antenna port on the right side, that an antenna card isn't in my laptop and the best....my laptop had no option for the tv tuner, because there is an external usb tuner that is in the package with the laptop.
I tell you, such an incompetent support member, I had never at a support.
To make a long story short, the laptop is here and they send me on obligingness!!!! an external dvb-t tv tuner for usb.
That was not the service i'm used to.
Over all i have a question.
My friend will buy a lenovo y580 too, but with the option with the full hd display and the 1tb+32 gb ssd.
Is it possible, that when he get his laptop that i can change the harddrive and the ssd with mine harddrive?
And will it work? I mean the option that the ssd will work as cache for the hdd?
I know that his laptop would work with the single hdd, but how is it with mine?
Hope you can give me an answer for my question.
Thank you for your help.
Yours Markus. -
Markus from Autria Notebook Enthusiast
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Hi Markus,
The SSD model y580s are set up a certain way, but you should have no problem trading drives with your friend and setting it up to work with a caching SSD drive.
First, here is how Lenovo SSD caching works with their RapidDrive tool: Introduction to reinstalling Windows on the machines built with Rapid Drive
If you don't feel comfortable opening your laptop and removing and installing drives, then just leave it as it is, or ask a friend to help you. It is also possible that you could damage the other partitions on the drives and lose One Key Restore and other important data. Follow these steps at your own risk (NOTE: Back up all important data first! Your friend too!):
1. Remove the HDD from your comp and install the HDD and SSD from your friend's comp. The SSD is a smaller mSATA type drive. You can see how it's set up on your friend's comp, just install it that way in yours.
2. Start the computer, and go into the BIOS (press F2 just as the computer is starting, in the Lenovo screen), and set the hard drive mode to AHCI or RAID. Save the settings and restart.
3. Windows should start. If not, then you will have to re-install it. You can download the windows install disc here: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-24209.iso. Burn it to a disc or extract it to a USB drive. Install it to the SSD partition. If you do not see SSD partition, you will need to separate the discs first (because the Lenovo RapidDrive tool joins them). To separate the discs, put them back into your friend's comp, start his comp, and have him run the RapidDriveTool.exe program found in C:/program files/lenovo rapid drive/tool. Once you run the tool, shut down his comp, take out the drives, put them back in your comp, and try installing Windows again.
4. Once you get Windows running, install the same Lenovo RapidDrive tool and run setup.exe: http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/0prs03ww.exe. This should join the two drives and set up caching.
That should hopefully do it. I have never read of anyone trying to set up an HDD and SSD RapidDrive combination on a y580 with drives from another y580 with the same combination, so I don't know if this will work, so try it at your own risk and if you're sure you can reinstall Windows if it doesn't work
If you have a bit of extra money, I suggest just buying a 64GB or 128GB SSD and installing that in your comp, and just having the SSD separate for Windows, and the HDD for storage. That is what I did with my y580. It was very easy to set up, and having the drives separate works much faster than having them joined together with caching. Here is an install guide for setting it up like this with a brand new SSD http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/690046-lenovo-y580-clean-install-guide.html -
Markus from Autria Notebook Enthusiast
Hi mr_kings,
At first I want to say sry for my late answer.
If've changed the hdd with the hdd/ssd combo and it already worked in my laptop.
The bluetooth driver don't worked good, but after a OKR-restore it was all fine.
The laptop booted up very fast if you compare it with my only "hdd-windows install".
At the end of all i had changed the plates back to each laptop, 'cause my friend had also bad luck with his lenovo.
His laptop had non functional usb-ports on the left side. So he decided to send his laptop back to amazon to get a new one.
I'm very interested into the clean install of windows on the ssd, so i had bought the cruicial m4 256 gb msata drive.
I've read the "clean install thread" too and i wanted to know if my method of install is so ok.
So i would take the "install-part" in an overview:
- Install the msata drive in my Y580
- Burn my Win 7 Ultimate DVD and install it on the ssd drive
- delete the c partition and the d-drive, if i back up the driver there before i beginn to install win 7 ult
- install the driver with the "driver install guide" found here in the forum
- have fun....
I know, when i delete the C-drive and resize or delete the d drive to that OKR will not longer work.
I mean, what i've read here, it will go on working but only until the part where it beginn to restore, 'cause i had "changed" the partitions.
But must i install the OKR7 Disk after the install of win 7+drivers, to put a functional image in the OEM partition on the hdd?
Or can i make an image with the OKR-programm already stored in the OEM-partition?
Hope you understand my question.
And i've read that i should download powerDVD for my lenovo.
Must i install this programm to watch blu-ray's or can i use vlc or something like that to watch them?
Are there any other useful programms you recommend to install in my "clean install" from the "old windows drive"?
And is it posible to get the exe files of this programms from the OEM-Partion?
The last big part i get headache of is, with the OKR.
The OKR-button will not longer work,if i wipe the whole hdd. That's correct, i think so.
What is in the case, when i wipe the whole drive and install OKR7 after the win 7 clean install?
Will the button go on working after the install of the software and make a hidden partition?
I don't want to have a dead button, so i ask twice if i do firstly false.
I think, that i my case, it would recommend, that i make the backup dvd discs from the lenovo windows. Or is this redundant?
Normally i don't will install the lenovo config again, but it's a nice to have, if something goes wrong or i want to do it anyway.
Hope i don't forget anything to ask. ;-)
Thank you mr_kings for your answer anyway.
With best wishes
Markus -
Hi Markus,
Sorry to hear about your friend's laptop. Hope he got a refund or a replacement :thumbsup:
You're on the right track with your installation method! There's a couple more things that I would suggest. Try these steps:
- Back up any important data on your C: drive, and back up everything on the D: (Lenovo) drive
- Install the mSATA SSD drive in your y580
- In the BIOS, make sure UEFI is disabled - BIOS > Boot > UEFI Boot [Disabled]
- Burn your Windows DVD - I don't think you will be able to install Windows 7 Ultimate, since the OS that comes with the comp is Home Premium, and the key will probably not work with Ultimate
- Boot from Windows DVD
- In the drive selection menu, delete the C: (Windows7_OS) and D: (Lenovo) partitions from your HDD - do not delete the hidden OKR partition (LENOVO_PART), this partition is about 19.5 GB - do not create any new partitions on the HDD yet.
- If your new SSD is not formatted, create a new partition C: and format it. If it is already formatted but it is not drive C:, delete the partition and create a new one (the Windows drive must be C: or else OKR will not work properly if you ever want to restore). Again, the SSD must be C:
- Create a new partition on your HDD from the space of the deleted C: and D: drives. This will be your storage drive.
- Install Windows to your new SSD C: partition
- Install the drivers by following the driver install guide (To install the bluetooth drivers, first press Fn + F5 and turn on the bluetooth chip. This must be done after you have installed all other Lenovo drivers)
- Have fun....
and yes, changing the size of the C: drive breaks OKR. Basically, the C: drive must match the size of the image that is being restored to it. The factory image created by Lenovo is for the old C: drive, but now you have changed the size of that drive, so you cannot use the factory image. You just need to simply create a new image after you have installed your drivers and other programs you want, and you can safely restore from that image in the future if you ever need to just by running OKR like normal. No, you do not need to install any OKR discs on your new Windows system to create this new image, you can do that from the OKR program already stored in the hidden OEM partition. See this guide: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/688883-how-restore-onekey-recovery-function-after-changing-partition-size-y580-maybe-others.html. You can create a restore image as often as you want if you decide to re-install Windows with different programs and you want to be able to easily restore to that configuration in the future.
Good luck! -
Markus from Autria Notebook Enthusiast
Hello mr_kings,
Thank you for your help with my "problem".
Finally i made it.
The laptop runs fast and with the ssd it's really nice to start this beast.
The only thing that was not on my drive except the PowerDVD was the "Lenovo EE Boot Optimizer".S
o i searched the lenovo page for the "IN8STW15WW5.exe" mentioned in the clean install thread. I found the exe then and the link for it is: KLICK
I only install the OS and the steam application on the SSD and the HDD is only for storage usage only.
Thank you very very much.
Nice Greetz,
Markus -
yes it does, I just got the same configuration with built in TV tuner, working perfectly
At Amazon it is hard though to figure out which models have that and which don't since the description and the PDF data sheet are mostly different.
For your interest, the tuner is located in the - from bottom view - leftmost expansion slot and the connector to the antenna is located between USB port and Blue Ray drive.
greetings, sturmi -
HERE IS THE USER GUIDE FOR THE NOTEBOOK:
http://www.lenovo.com/shop/americas/content/user_guides/y470_y570_ug_en.pdf
*NOTE THE ABOVE NOTEBOOKS ON AMAZON DIDN'T HAVE THE TUNER CARDS ADVERTISED, I'M CHECKING THE MANUAL NOW.
Lenovo Y580 comes with TV-Card and Antenna
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