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    Lenovo Y70 Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by kingfirejet, May 25, 2014.

  1. kingfirejet

    kingfirejet Notebook Consultant

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    This thread is for the supposed Y70 that's under speculation. Its apparently in line with the Ideapad Y40 and Y50, but still unknown.

    This photo shows the Lenovo line up for the Y-Series. You will also notice that they completely ignored the Y500 :<
    View attachment 112405

    This photo shows the size comparison of the Y40 which is apparently has an orange color scheme (Can be an early prototype or a future color option) followed by the Y50 and the larger Y70 on the bottom.
    View attachment 112406

    This photo shows the actual Y70 which has a large bezel around the keyboard.
    View attachment 112407
     
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    How much will it cost? Do you think it will be good for uni?

    Sent from my HTCSensation using Tapatalk
     
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    wow we just got trolled completely by lenovo, completely...
     
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    If anyone out there is hopeful that the information about the port selection, and pictures revealing the sides of the laptop, are just mistakenly about the Y50, I've shopped the images to put the Y50 and Y70 stacked next to each other, where I matched the size of the USB/HDMI ports:

    y50y70sidecomparison.jpg

    As you can see, those images are definitely a different laptop, they are pretty much the same height, but no more ports =/
     
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    We just got in the new Y70 Touch models today ... going to be opening one up for inspection so if anyone wants any details let me know!
     
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    SSD: Samsung
    Panel: LGD0469 (HWInfo says it's an LG LP173WF4-SP1)
     
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    Cool. Thank you for the info!

    1. According to Panelook, the display might be an AH-IPS screen (albeit with 6-bit FRC though). To confirm, could you check the viewing angles, and tell us subjectively how they compare to other specific laptops you have seen? It would also be great if you could take a look at my post on the UHD calibration thread.. This post has several reference pictures which challenge the UHD model of the Y50. How natural do those pictures look on the Y70 screen?

    2. Could you also confirm that the keyboard layout on the Y70 is the same or very similar to the USA Y50? What about the size/spacing of the keyboard? Is it just the Y50 with large margins on the sides?

    3. How likely do you think it'll be that Lenovo release other configurations of the Y70 than the single one listed on the US shop page? Do you anticipate other resellers picking the Y70 up, or this more of a novelty item?

    4. If the Y70 keyboard is just a Y50 keyboard with extra margins, and all the other parts seem to be nearly identical, what differences are there between the Y70 and the Y50, aside from the screen? If you were to open up the Y70, would it just be the Y50 motherboard, but basically with extension wafers/cables to have the ports reach the farther apart edges?

    Thanks!
     
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    1) I personally believe it is most likely IPS, but I am not a good judge of that. The viewing angles seem significantly better than the Y50 display (as far as not dimming as much when viewing from the side) and the brightness seems better. It is a glossy screen, not matte as Lenovo states. However, when I look at vendors selling replacement LP173WF4-SP1 screen, some of them said it was TN. I did see what you were referring to on Panelook. So again, to me it appears IPS, but definitely not a sure thing.
    2) Yes, keyboard is pretty much the Y50 with large margins.
    3) Very likely I would think - I assume that they will come out in configurations similar to the Y50 as time goes on. Unfortunately there's no time-frame and no other info right now. To put it in perspective, even the people I talked to at Lenovo didn't even realize they had a Y70 for sale until I brought it to their attention. (not really a surprise!) I would also expect other vendors to pick them up. If anyone is interested here on the forum, we can provide an excellent price on the current Y70 model for NBR users.
    4) Can't talk to that - we don't open them up.
     
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    1. all the SP series from LG are IPS, S is for IPS and P is for eDP connector
    2. so the picture on the official site is just a euro keyboard right?

    can you also post some pics brian?
     
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    Surprising how much less interest there is in the y70 as compared to the y50....
    Brian, Any idea on whether y70 non touch is in the works?
     
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    Surprising to me as well - especially since the screen appears to be better. No, I wasn't able to get any information on further y70 releases - unfortunately again the communication at Lenovo is pretty poor .. reps didn't even know they had a Y70 in existence, much less being sold on the Lenovo website!
     
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    Sorry no pics - it's boxed back up.
     
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    Just reading the specifications for this notebook -> I like it.
    17" IPS Panel, quad core, SSD, much RAM. Perfect for that price and exactly what I've been looking for.

    Really considering getting one. Only one thing that makes me think: the touchpad. Is it good? At the moment i have a 17" Inspiron Laptop and it has those two buttons which I like. Many other notebook have this "press the whole touchpad" thing. Is it easy to get used to it?
     
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    17" is too big for uni imo
     
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    I don't know if the y70 has the same track pad as the y50, but the y50 track pad worked really well and responsive for me.
     
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    If it indeed is an IPS display it would be hard to resist. Is there a chance for a detail review soon? Heat and noise? Also the keyboard layout in the picture on Lenovo site seems to be a European one (weird 'Enter' key and extremely short left 'Shift' key, could anybody confirm this hands on?
     
  19. JohnBergqvist

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    So do the indications so far look like that it'll have a better display (i'm not really au fait on displays) than the Y50's? as that one was pretty slated by reviewers I believe?

    Also I hope they release a touch version of it in the UK, currently only the non-touch verison of the Y50 is available here? :'( But if they do release a Y70 touch in the UK AND it has a decent display (better than the Y50's) AND it also fits a WD Black2 drive, then i'll definitely think about getting it.
     
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    Well that's good then as it might mean there's a UK release imminent (the 'weird' enter key and short L. Shift key are the norm in the UK). You can only get the non-Touch version of the Y50 for sale in the UK right now.
     
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    I ordered mine and should arrive on Wednesday. I'll post photos and whatnot.
     
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    even the y50 can fit a 9.5mm drive, you just have to remove the rubber stoppers
     
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    Definitely looking forward to that. An in depth review would be nice too, but I just want to know more about temp and noise. Thanks beforehand.:thumbsup:
     
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    first of all: wrong thread!

    but then: the FHD-panles of the Y50 are "just" TN-panels and mediocre ones on top. if you go for the UHD-resolution, then you get an IPS-panel (with a hefty problem with yellow and a limitation to 48 Hz ...).

    as this could be interesting for the Y70: someone in Germany already got an Acer VN7-791G. and he took a look at his panel and it seems to be the exact same panel, as the Y70 is supposed to have. he was really happy with the panel, just for your information. if anybody wants the link (sorry, only in german ...):
    Acer Aspire VN7-791G-759Q (NX.MQREG.004)
     
  26. KlickOnline

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    All non-4k versions of the Y50 have TN panels. The UHD 4k versions have IPS.
     
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    no. they only state IPS for the UHD-variants. everything is fine there, IMHO.
     
  28. JohnBergqvist

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    Yes, my fault sorry, I misread those 2 IPS ones as being 1920x1080
     
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    As promised, here are some initial shots. I haven't installed games yet, but thought I'd post this and see if there's anything specific people want to know. Please keep in mind that I've never done a formal review, so if there's any tools that I should use for your questions, let me know.

    Model Y70 (80DU000HUS)

    One of the first differences I notice from the Y50 UHD is that the display glass covers the bezels and doesn't have the shiny plastic bezel that the Y50 does. I'm not sure if the Y50 Touch also has the full glass.

    The SSD is Samsung. And HWInfo indicates the display is a LG Philips LGD0469 (LG LP173WF4-SPF1) (same as Brian indicated). I want to say it's an IPS, but I'm no expert.

    Below are some photos, both laptops are at full brightness, no adjustments have been made. I don't think it's really noticeable on the photo, but the Y70 is more vivid than the Flex 2.

    Keyboard:
    IMG_0687.jpg

    Display (front):
    IMG_0690.jpg

    Display (top):
    IMG_0691.jpg

    Display (side):
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    Display (bottom):
    IMG_0694.jpg

    Side by side with Lenovo Flex 2 15:
    IMG_0696_HiRes.jpg
     
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    Do you think the display is Anti-Glare? It didn't look anti-glare to me.
     
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    I don't think it is.
     
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    I had a chance to take another look at the screen this evening, and I'm convinced now that it's for sure IPS. I put it side by side with a Y50 FHD and the difference was staggering, and then compared it to a Y50 UHD IPS and the viewing angles look the same. Too bad there isn't much love for this system - they fixed the one HUGE flaw from the Y50 FHD. But at 7.5lbs it is hefty.
     
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    Thanks so much for all the pic! Love the look of the screen, looks like I'm gonna have to pull the trigger on this one. On the bright side, at least it's definitely lighter than Asus 750 series for a 17 inch. :)
     
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    Now I just have to hope the release it in the UK soon... (Although I bet the price will be as if they've never heard of an exchange rate...)
     
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    As for the temperatures, it feels warmer from the center of the keyboard to the to left, top, top/left (pretty much the top/left quadrant). I got a friend's IR thermometer and this is what I got:

    1. While just browsing 97F at the center (which is the hottest), 84 - 87 at the palm rest and numpad area.
    2. While playing Asassin's Creed for about 30 mins, the center got to 105F at the center, not much change at the palm rest.

    You can definitely feel it, but it hasn't gotten too uncomfortable to me.

    I have nothing to compare the noise to, but you can hear the fans going a bit. Again, it doesn't bother me and it's probably comparable to the noise of the Y50.
     
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    I see...was hoping it would be a little bit better than the Y50. I guess that's ok. Xotic PC did some detail benchmark and in depth tour on the Y50, they got similar temp as well on the outside. Anybody interested can find the link here;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M4N2kvFtgU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSU4uTRO2I8

    What was very surprising though is the very low temp on CPU and GPU, I guess this has something to do with Lenovo preventing the chip from overclocking too much (this was mentioned in the Y50 thread). A few more questions, how well does it fit into your laptop bag? Since the Y50 was a bit large for a 15inch, is this also the case for the Y70? And do you plan to open up the internal to see if there is any differences from the Y50? How about the battery life?

    Thanks again for what you've done so far, appreciate it!
     
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    After seeing those videos, I'm thinking the Y70 will behave pretty much the same as the Y50 in terms of temperature and noise. After looking closely at the air intake at the bottom and exhaust by the display hinge, they seem to be the same size as the Y50. Maybe I'm incorrectly assuming that a bigger intake and exhaust would help with the cooling, but it seems they could have taken advantage of the larger body.

    As for the laptop bag, I have the Timbuk2 Phoenix backpack, which is supposed to fit a 17" laptop. And, technically, it does fit. However, the zipper is mostly a side zipper and you have to angle the laptop into the bag; I find myself forcing it in on the last corner. I might get a different backpack that actually opens all the way on the top because I'm worried that the consistent friction on the corner will wear out the body.

    As for opening it, I don't have any plans on doing it. Mostly because I tend to be clumsy with tools :)

    Battery seems to be around 3-4 hours with just browsing, watching a few YouTube videos, etc. I haven't played a game on the battery.
     
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    Yeah I was thinking that the bigger chassis will allow it to have a bit better airflow and space to breathe. Yeah with the battery life I guess Lenovo just stick with the Y50's battery, I guess they are going with the lazy route and kept the internal the same. Oh well, for the price it's still a bargain from my view. :)
     
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    No WiFi issues so far, but I haven't played any online games. Thought the Y50 issues were when it heated up (?).
     
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    What's the default/max refresh rate of the 1920x1080 version? Apparently the UHD version of the Y50 was only 48Hz...
     
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    I didn't remember reading anything that specific about it acting up due to heat. The person mention how the signal would get drop constantly. Faulty wireless card perhaps, I know the Y510p also had a crappy wireless card...it's the one thing they shouldn't cheap out in the first place.
     
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    From what I read somewhere, initial batches of either the Y510p, or the Y50 (I can't remember which), had a dodgy wireless card, which they replaced with a different, more reliable one in newer/later batches?
     
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    Yep that was indeed the case with the y510p, the did improve the wireless later on. Here's hoping the current wireless issue is a luck of the draw thing and not widespread.

    Really liking the Y70 for what it is.
     
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    Any chance for a pic and/or weight of the power pack?

    I've been running gaming laptops for years now, and it's always the power pack that really gets you in the end! ;)
     
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    Since the internal is exactly the same, I assume it would have an identical power brick to the Y50. This mean it's another 1.19 pound extra.
    Here's a pic of it I found online.

    csm__MG_4422_a04e1c2d34.jpg
     
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    I found this video on Youtube, a first look from CNET, looks very sleek indeed. The screen seems to hold up pretty well and very much IPS quality, compared to other videos of the Y50 that was very washed out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-tnk5m-gSY

    gentlecoolbreeze...how is the laptop working out for you so far? Any major flaws you find after spending sometime with it?
     
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    i called customer support and they said default refresh rate is 30hz, but it's not limited...
     
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    IS the 860m a Kepler or Maxwell?
     
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