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    Lenovo announces new Thinkpad Edge and x120e notebooks

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by BNHabs, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. aznguyphan

    aznguyphan Notebook Evangelist

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    Where are you seeing it get 3 more hours of battery life? HP claimed it would get 9.5 hours but Laptopmag's test show it to be around 6.5 hours just like Lenovo claims the x120e would get (on matching 6 cell batteries).

    x120e has some nice features over the HP. You'll get Thinkpad tools (mainly Power Manager), a matte screen, a better keyboard, a spill resistant keyboard, a trackpoint, and a trackpad with distinct buttons all for around (maybe even exactly) the same price.

    HP has a nice better integrated battery design, screwdriver-less access to its internals and Altec Lansing speakers
     
  2. AboutThreeFitty

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    HP told one of their white lies again. In one review they only got 6.5 hours out of it, while HP thinks thats its good for 9.5 hours. When the same site did the review of the old x100e they got 4:47 while Lenovo says it was good for 5 hours. Of course we will have to see if Lenovo battery predictions hold true and that it doesn't run hotter than the sun.(I have good faith in both of those.)

    It seems HP is ready for the x120e as it has $100 off making it just $450 and 3Gb of memory upgrade for free. I believe the x120e base price of $400 includes the single core model.(Don't quote me on that ;) ) Depending on what comes standard on the x120, the Dm1 could be better value. Although it will be missing out on the great build quality and awesome keyboard that the x120e will offer.
     
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    non removeable battery is cool feature. I suppose when the time come you can just take it out and replace it after a year or two when the charge has lost its strength. Adding the finger print reader is nice, I would like one of those. No mic jack? bluethooth? WiDi ready? usb3.0? media controls?speakers? I know the edge series isnt suppose to be a media based laptop.
     
  4. aznguyphan

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    When I said integrated battery design I meant the HP's battery doesn't stick out the back or out under it. It actually sticks up above the keyboard and they use their hinge design to compensate.

    They both have user replaceable batteries.
     
  5. n.czar

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    You said where I got the 3+ hours on the x120e, HP claims 9.5, Lenovo claims 6.5.
     
  6. aznguyphan

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    Well we now see HP DM1 actually got in battery testing, so the their claim is irrelevant now. Only Lenovo's claim matters now and since both of their 6 cells have pretty much the same capacity, its not much of a mystery what kind of battery life it will get.
     
  7. intervenient

    intervenient Newbie

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    Would the single-core x120e be able to?
     
  8. n.czar

    n.czar Notebook Consultant

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    Where did you find that the x120e comes with a 6 cell? And where did you find it's capacity?

    edit: again not fully reading posts, if the lenovo comes with a default e240 and default 3 cell than the price is definately going to be 1-200 more than the hp. Not that that was all we were talking about but that means I am looking to spend 6-700 on a comparable x120e.

    Who knows, only the e350 dual core has been tested so far.
     
  9. aznguyphan

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    The x120e is using the exact same case design as the previous x100e which had a 6 cell battery with a 57whr capacity
     
  10. coldmack

    coldmack Notebook Virtuoso

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    Couldn't tell but does the E220 come with an optical drive? And based on info we know how does it compare to the matte screen on the U260?
     
  11. AboutThreeFitty

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    The E220 does not include an optical drive. The glass display is most likely going to be slighter better, but reflections are going to be awful as with most glass displays.
     
  12. coldmack

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    Thank you. I really like this, but I am still one of those few that use an optical drive. Depending on the reviews for this, I may get it or then I may have to look at the pricier X220(which im assuming has built in optical drive since the previous gen X201 had it).
     
  13. TSE

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    Neither the X220 or X201 has a built in optical drive.
     
  14. coldmack

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    Then did the X200 come with one? Because I remember seeing a 12in X series in person with a built in optical drive?
     
  15. AboutThreeFitty

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    You may be thinking about the x300/x301 as they have an optical drive.

    x200 did not.
     
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    E420s is looking pretty good. I wish ithad the same hinge style as the E220s tho
     
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    The hinge design on the e420s look like it's same material as the regular thinkpad, while the the e220s hinge look like it is reverse version of their regular hinge.
     
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    Is it possible that you will get 4GB RAM, the 1 GB ATI 6550 GFX card, and the new i5 for 800 without a student discount on the e420s model?

    (Question removed by moderator - please read the board sticky regarding discount programs)
     
  19. omni

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    I had read the sticky and my question didn't violate the rules. I was asking how much is the student discount in my original post. I wasn't asking for any codes or anything of that sort.
     
  20. AboutThreeFitty

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    In my experience student discounts grant you next to nothing. I saved $50 on my x100e and didn't even bother getting it for my y460. Normal coupons are going to grant you far better savings than a student discount. Again, that has been my experience.
     
  21. sisqo_uk

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    Not bad all. i think this link is a bit easier to see whats new for lenovo 2011

    Lenovo - New Product Showcase

    im looking for the x120e myself after deciding not to get the 1215n/vx6 after i was tipped off about the 1215b.

    to add the e220s is NOT having the amd 6630, the e420 is.
     
  22. omni

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    Do you think the graphics card is going to be included in the $749 starting price of the e420s?
     
  23. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    probably not going to happen, we are going to see a 100~200 ish upgrade, Im thinking of spending something about 1000~1200 on this one.

    that would include the:

    rapid drive

    AMD 6630m
     
  24. sisqo_uk

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    possibly not i think because i was looking at the e220s on youtube and one of the guys from lenovo was talking about it and the e420s and hes spoke more about the e420 saying that it has integrated graphics and amd can is an upgrade option. so im going to no not for $749, maybe $799-$829 (presuming its exactly the same spec but just a graphics upgrade shouldnt be that much increase)

    saying that tho its a beautiful machine but honestly the Ideapad Y470 is the same size screen equally as beautiful which looks to have brushed stainless steel. and has nvidia GT 555m i think as standard and that is a 1st class card well stronger than an equivelant amd 6630 (like a 5730/5750 but just a bit better cos its newer) the GT 555 is literally as powerful as the GTX 260m despite where notebook check put it in the list in a 14" screen. Its is a class 1 card.
    so the Y470 IS the REAL DEAL. prob be around $899 starting price for the 14" and $999 for the 15" Y570. but thats just my guess. im just in the uk so what the hell do i know LOL
     
  25. Smellycant

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    Im glad they supposedly fixed the heat issue.

    According to some trustworthy sources, the x120e will be released Feb 15th.

    The us site reflects this as it states on their site 'available in feb' but interestingly is that Canada may get it first, as their site says 'available in jan'.

    EDIT: onto latest developments, it seems the canadian site has now been changed to available in feb. So I guess there is slightly less than one month to go till release for everyone.
     
  26. coldmack

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    Do you think it is possible Lenovo may bring out a tablet version of the X120?
     
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    My y460p was pretty much doa so I sent it back for a refund and I am leaning towards the E420s as a replacement.

    It seems the y470 has the better gpu, but I really like the size, and weight of the e420s, the slot load optical, think light, and it sounds like the hand rest is a sort of rubber which would be nice.

    The e420s also has the infinity screen. Which is the glass.. Not sure about the screen of the y470.
     
  28. AboutThreeFitty

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    Highly unlikely. The x120 is a "cheap and cheerful" product and making it into a Tablet PC would push the price too high.
     
  29. coldmack

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    You think? I know the S10 was made into a tablet. S10t, and that(non-tablet) was going for about $120 less than the x120 is going for. So, I was hoping it was possible.
     
  30. talin

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    I'd love to see a zacate-based tablet from Lenovo. Maybe they'll ditch atom in favor of it in the next s103-t, who knows?
     
  31. coldmack

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    I'd prefer the X120 as a tablet over the S10 tablet as the X120 is more Thinkpad-ish and looks nicer(imho) and looks to be better built than the S10 tablet I mess around with in store. I'd automatically sold the X120t specially if it came with Llano cpu.
     
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    The E420s will have integrated battery. I wonder how much will it last.
    I don't know what type of battery will E420 have.

    Anyway, I hope the autonomy will be >5,6 hours. I'm looking at Asus U36JC now, and I don't know if I should wait for Lenovo E420 simple or 's', or just buy this one now, as I'm from Romania, and it might take a while for Lenovo to ship it here.
     
  33. vēer

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    I hope they make their integrated batteries not only last long enough on a charge but hold this charge throughout whole battery life without wearing out significantly with cycles.
    At least they claim their battery on U260 is supposedly better and can be recharged multiple times without compared to their current "usual" ones.

    Now I wonder if such battery technology will be applied to more traditional external batteries?
     
  34. Changturkey

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    Isn't the x120e supposed to be out by now?
     
  35. AboutThreeFitty

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    It says February on the website. Could be tomorrow, could be on the 28th.
     
  36. steampot

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    It is coming out on the 15th. It even says so on their facebook page. I hope I get a review of sorts before the 15th though so I can have my mind made up on the day of launch.
     
  37. sisqo_uk

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    yea i heard 15th. so i guest that it wont be properly available till 21st and after.
     
  38. teiresias

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    The 15th sucks, that's the middle of the week I'm out of town for some training and I was hoping to have it to actually take on that trip. *sigh*
     
  39. Tomy B.

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    Does anybody know will X120e or any other netbook/notebook based on AMD Fusion have SATA-3/SATA-6Gbps?

    Hope they will, because all those mini-ITX motherboards have it.
     
  40. gdansk

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    According to an AMD document (relevant portion highlighted), all the Hudson FCH platforms feature 6 x SATA-6Gbps. Actually available ports on the motherboard? I have no idea.
     
  41. Tomy B.

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    Here they say it's SATA-6Gbps.
    USB 3.0 is all that's missing.
     
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    I would say if the Lenovo has a better screen I would say wait for it, because I have heard with the timelinex the screen can be a bit of a hit or miss.
     
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    "There is an SSD option on X120e....128GB SSD. 1 footnote availability varies by region so you should ask for this if you want it." -LenovoVision

    A SSD option on a $400 laptop? :cool:
     
  45. gdansk

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    It won't be a $400 laptop... :D
     
  46. AboutThreeFitty

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    I know I know. Just thought it was awesome that they would offer that on such a cheap laptop. Cheap to begin with anyway. :p
     
  47. mtm8692

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    I really hope that $400 price they keep throwing around is for the dual core. An x120e with a self installed ssd and is my dream computer right now. If it had a thinklight or a backlit keyboard (lol) it would be the ultimate machine for in-bed writing. =)

    Has anyone tried to estimate how the fusion gpu stacks up against say a 3000 or 4000 series mobile radeon?
     
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    @mtm8692

    I'm convinced that the $400 price is for the single core E-240 and the E-350 will go for $450-500. Look at the processor types last year (Single and Dual core) and the HP DM1z being about $450 for a dual core.Still, for 450 or so, its a sick computer. I'm going to upgrade my X120e with my Samsung 64GB 470 SSD and install windows 7 ultimate on it.

    Will the x120e accept more than 4GB of RAM (total with 64bit W7)??

    Lenovo - Laptops - ThinkPad - X Series- X120e

    Lenovo updated the x120e product page, see link above. They mention only "up to 4GB DDR3 memory". But the DM1z can handle more than 4GB with the same processor.
     
  49. sisqo_uk

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    yea the basic processor will be the starting price. lol to note the website actually does state just UNDER $400 so it could be like $399. still looks better than $400. byt the way on the usa website it actually has the x120e under the roster in the X series but says coming soon which is a good start cos it wasnt there a few days ago.
     
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