Mini Review of Lenovo Y580

It took me a while but I finally manage to find some time to write my mini-review of Lenovo Y580

Few specs at the beginning:
Model: Lenovo Y580 (59-332596)
CPU: Intel Core i7-3610QM
Graphic card: Intel HD Graphics 4000 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M 2048 MB GDDR5
Memory: 8192 MB (SODIMM DDRAM3, 1600 MHz)
Storage: 750 GB SATA 5400rpm
Optical drive: DVD+/-RW DualLayer
Size and resolution: 15,6" 1920x1080 (FullHD)
OS: none
Price: 927€
Time of usage: over week

A little note: this notebook was bought for my wife. I was looking for it for a long time because it has to meet few requirements: be as cheap as possible, have decent performance and FullHD. Contrary to what might seem, it's not easy to get combination like this. I was also thinking about Asus N56VZ but there is no FHD with Core i7 available in my country and old notebook died. If I had choice I would probably go for Asus because of its design.

I would describe Lenovo's box as ‘ok’. I think it could have problem with long distance travel without additional safety measures but for normal situations (from shop to car or bus) it is enough.

In my opinion overall build quality is at least decent. Nothing crackle, hinges works fine. It's a little hard to feel button for opening optical drive. I was surprised with one USB port. There was some picture where I saw another USB 3.0 on the right side but there is 2.0, like documentations says. So it's my fault really.
One thing that I had to adapt to is moving this notebook. When I wanted to move old one I grab it at lower right corner. But when I do that with Y580 I can feel bottom bend slightly where optical drive is.
Brushed aluminium is great but it grabs finger prints like magnet, similar to what inox surfaces do.

Because I didn't have OS pre-installed I had to install everything from scratch. And here my warning to everyone - fresh OS doesn't detect almost any part of hardware - it's to new so there are no built-in drivers. Even LAN and Wi-Fi won't work. During Win installation I removed Lenovo's partition (just because) but all the drivers are on CD, arranged in order of installation. So there were no problems whatsoever but it took some time to install everything.

Screen quality is good. It's not PVA, where colours are more accurate but it's really good for TN. There is slightly too much blue hue (that's common problem for TN...this or green hue) but it is not visible like on older notebook.
I found glossy to be very irritating. But, like forum discussion indicates, it's quite subjective. I had problems with seeing myself or some brighter things on background. There's no way you could sit with it when daylight is behind. My wife on the other hand has no problem with it at all.
Interesting fact - FHD on this screen forces you to change font size in Windows to bigger one - without it it's just really hard to read.
Angles are decent. Definitively they are better than on old notebook but it's still TN.
I will try to calibrate this screen but without hardware settings it will be hard and probably won't give any noticeable effect. Still my wife doesn't see problem here too.

Keyboard is really nice, a little noisy. I have some problems with hitting 'enter' or 'shift' because those buttons are little shorter than usual because of numeric section. But it's only matter of time to adjust old habits...Again my wife doesn't have problem with that.
Illumination is really great! I was little afraid at beginning, especially when I discovered that there are no power graduation, but unnecessarily. It just does what it should be doing without distracting.
I'm missing some CapsLock and NumLock indicator.

I don’t like Touchpad at all. Without drivers installed it almost can't be operated normally. After installation it was better but it's still very weak element. I don't know. Maybe it's standard nowadays looking at opinions on other brands but in old notebook, with almost 2x lower working area, it worked better. I could use it when there was no mouse around. In Lenovo I would rather go and find mouse. Buttons are the final nail in the coffin - they are just uncomfortable. When pressed all touchpad is bending. It's hard to press LMB and move finger at the same time. I've ended up disabling touchpad and forgot about its existence.

Performance is quite high. To be honest it surprised me a little. I've done few tests, which results can be found below. I've played Guild Wars 2 on it too and it behaves much better than my desktop - GW2 beta wasn't optimised for graphic cards so most calculations were done by CPU. My desktop has Core 2 Duo E8200 and well...it felt old when there are no fluent animations at all and when there are more action on the screen then it almost can't be played. On Y580 even with some big events game runs smoothly. And it's FHD compared to my Eizo with 1680x1050.
To increase overall performance even higher I bought mSATA SSD for cache. Unfortunately there is problem with configuring it to work with Intel Smart Response – after little digging I found that chipset does not have RAID and Smart Technology support at all so…I’m disappointed here. And I can’t even replace with something else (like Asus N56VZ) because they all have this chip within this price range.
Update:
I tested two games: Battlefield 3 and Skyrim.
In B3 I only played in singleplayer campaign. I've set ultra settings and played two missions (don't remember which one). I was quite shocked because it was really playable. It wasn't completely fluent of course. But I'm pretty sure if I would turn off AA and maybe set shadows to to something lower then I could play whole campaign on Y580.
I thought Skyrim will be greater challenge because of open world and HD texture pack. Test was made on ultra settings with FXAA enabled. I couldn't load my saves because I didn't copy mods but at least I was able to start new game. It was playable! Of course when dragon arrived right before my execution there was perceptible fps drop but I've manage to play through this intro without any problem and discomfort. Like in B3: turning off AA and maybe lowering shadows or decreasing viewable distance will really allow to play entire game.

Unfortunately there's a price to great performance and quite small dimensions (thickness) - cooling. When using for web and stuff like that, notebook remains cool and quiet, even when ambient temperatures are quite high. Fan becomes slightly noisy when on average load but it doesn't disturb work at all. Temperatures rises - you can't put hand at air vent for too long. On max load fans are very noticeable but sound doesn’t irritate and even won't disturb gaming without headphones. I even think it's quieter then my desktop. You can't put hand at air vent.
Temperatures can be found below. Keep in mind that notebook was standing on soft base, so air had problems entering the casing- there are few air inlets at the bottom of Y580 (you can find them on one of pics).
I won't comment GPU and CP temperatures - they are what they are and can be problematic only in some unrealistic situations of simultaneous max load on both. (FurMark and SuperPi).
Keyboard is getting warm slightly left from center, right above HDD. But it is not in any way discomfort. You won’t notice it if you won’t focus on it and it could be considered as feature on winter.
It's getting interesting when we talk about controversial hard drive. As you may see I've been able to heat it to 58C (136F). Theoretical max value on which it can work is 55C (131F) [there are some sources suggesting that it’s 60C (140F)]. I'm pretty sure it has some degree of tolerance for peak situations but not for continuous work. In my opinion there is some risk involved about losing data but only if we really heat it up. Temperatures didn't rise above 55C (131F) when normal use and keep in mind that ambient temperature was above 30C (86F) and some sensors showed even 35C (96F). So I personally think it's not such a big problem but you should backup regularly. Besides it's always wise thing to do. When room temperature was a little lower and notebook didn’t stand on soft base, HDD maxed at 51C (124F).
Some people here give interesting solutions, but too much expensive for me: put HDD instead of optical drive and put SSD when HDD was. You should get external optical just in case. This method however will get warranty issues. Even so I would choose it but I just don't need it...yet.

Before finish here are benchmark results and colour comparison with Eizo FlexScan S2231W (S-PVA - calibration was made long time ago and screen was slightly tilted relative to the camera, which can be seen) and Motorola RAZR (Advanced AMOLED):

• 3D Mark 2006
• 3D Mark Vantage
• 3D Mark 2011
• AvP Benchmark: Number of frames: 2625, Average Frame Time: 39.8ms, Average FPS: 25.1
• System temperatures
• HDD temperatures and HDD graph
• Red
• Green
• Blue
• Grey - here you can see why TN are so bad
• Three colours - resemblance to France was not intended . I wanted to show you how grey looks like. because there is grey in the middle, not white.

And small bonus but don't laugh...too much. It was made really spontaneously...

Summary - Lenovo Y580 is really great notebook for its price. It gives big performance and overall good build quality. It has few shortcomings but most of them can be ignored (disabling touchpad for example) and few of them need to reconcile with (temperatures). If I could travel back in time I would buy it again.

Sorry - it wasn't as 'mini' as I thought it would be. And thanks for reading it! (and don't complaining about language mistakes )

 

Thanks for this review!

Temperature seems really not that bad, except for the HDD. I really believe that the engineers intended to have the HDD between GPU and CPU to keep the route to the exhaust fan as short as possible. Otherwise the notebook probably couldn't handle all the heat of the GTX660 that easy.

Do you know if there is any throttling while gaming or under heavy load? Would be interessting how much the clock rate of CPU&GPU will be reduced. Maybe you could do some quick test?

Edit: Haha, nice video review! Your accent is not that polsky as I thought

 

I don't know anything about throttling but I can't check this right now - my wife came back and won't give me her notebook to play with.

 

What a shame. But if you have the opportunity some day, then you could probably just extend your list with it. Would be pretty interessting for everyone I guess.

Anyway, for your first review I have to say well done! Your English is not that bad as you think, couldn't find many mistakes myself. But I am not a native speaker myself so I don't blame you for that.

 

Great review! Thanks

 

I'll try tomorrow morning, if I won't forget about it half-asleep

There were bigger mistakes but Office helped me here a bit.

Anyway, thanks for your feedback!

 

Nice review. I agree with most of what you said, especially the blue hue being too deep on this screen.

 

Sorry but I forgot to make tests after I got up - too many things to do in the morning.

I'll try as soon I get home.

 

Awesome. Thanks!

 

Nice review. Definitely worth if for the hardware.

 

ok, i finally got some time to check throttling. GPU was stable at 950MHz (that's what Afterburner was showing) and if System Information for Windows was correct than CPU was at its minimum which is 2.3GHz. I tested this using FurMark and HyperPi.
This time notebook was standing on solid ground and HDD temperature didn't rise above 51C.

 

Nice review fella.

Still can't decide between this and the new XPS 15...

I know two very different machines but there ya go. Can't believe how Blue that Grey looks.. It's very bad. Is it noticeable when you're using it for standard things like browsing and gaming rather than testing specifically for it?

As mentioned, your English is very good.

 

Thx.

Is it noticeable...hm...That depends of your eyes really . For example I have much better sight then ear that's why I can see the difference. But my wife on the other hand is exactly opposite and she only see it when she plays with photos where she can see that colors are not vivid as they should be. But when browsing or playing games she doesn't she any difference. And all I did with this screen was lowering blues in Intels control panel - photos in my review were made before this change. I would like to calibrate it but calibration needs to have physical display settings because it works in full screen...

XPS 15...it's quite expensive in my opinion. Model with price level of Y580 has only HD screen and inferior graphic card. FHD costs ~470€ more than Y580 and it still has inferior graphic card. I wouldn't buy it if I would like to play in some more demanding games.

 

Good to know that those were taken before you altering the blue. Quick thing that might help you... Plug in a second monitor or tv to allow you to control the calibration settings control panel while having the calibration application running on the laptop screen.

XPS 15 would cost me something like £400 more and it would lack BluRay and mSATA but at least the mSATA would work as a cache. The build quality will be miles better and it would be around half an inch thinner and more portable. I believe the screen quality is likely going to be far superior too.

That said, the 580 is much more powerful and if I can live with the few shortfalls, then is the machine I'll likely go with... Especially now that Lenovo in the UK have decided to include a 64GB mSATA when before they didn't include any here. Not even the 32GB.

Just have to wait for another 10% code as that'll bring the full spec version with 3 years warranty and accidental damage cover to about £1000.

 

Hm...that's great tip. I forgot that there's a HDMI. I'll try to calibrate it then later this week.

I can't say anything about build quality of Dell and I don't think lack of BD should be considered in decision like yours. If XPS doesn't have IPS or PVA than there's no chance of it being 'far superior'. It can be better but not too much.
From what I've seen XPS has same weight as Y580 so...
The only advantage of XPS for me is mSATA as true cache. This model of Y580 with mSATA pre-installed is more likely to use something called Rapid Drive.

 

The 15R Special Edition is more of a competitor than XPS 15. Would really like to see a comparison for 15R SE and Y580.

 

From I found 15R looks almost like Y580. The only difference is slightly sower graphic card.

 

Draghmar, great review. Probably the best I've seen thus far.

Few questions if you don't mind me asking.

1. Concerning graphics, you tested the Y580 with the GW2 beta, which is funny because that's practically the game I'm buying a new laptop for. Were you able to max out all the settings at 1920x1080? How did the game look at 1080p?
2. You bought this for you wife and you stated that you'd buy it again... For her. But what about yourself? You seem to be decently critical and not too bias, so my question is this. Would you of bought this laptop for yourself if you needed a new one?

 

Ad 1. Hello fellow GW2 player. it's even funnier - one of the main reasons for searching notebook with as much performance as possible was to play GW2 smoothly on it. And to answer to your question: game looks great! It was at max settings, even with AA which I normally disable. Like I wrote in my review: I was able to record gameplay with 30fps! ArenaNet claims that it wasn't optimized for graphic cards yet, so it be should even better.

Ad 2. That can be a little misleading...I often refer to notebook I bought as 'mine' because it's simply easier to write like that. It was bought for my wife and she is using it. I've only made some tests.
I'm 'hardcore PC user' and I don't like compromises when we talk about PC hardware quality. That's why I won't buy anything until it get PVA or IPS display. I tried few times write to places like Eurocom or AVADirect but they are not interested in making my 'dream' come true.
But I think Y580 is really great for its price. I did a lot of research (like I always do when I want to buy something) and there was only two options: Asus N56VZ and Lenovo Y580. They both have decent performance with not too much noise and my wife liked their design. We've choose Lenovo simply because there are no similar Asus in Poland right now.
And to clarify my answer to your question: I would but it again for my wife.

 

I'm going back and forth between this and getting a Sager. This helps, thanks.

 

Thanks Draghmar, I really appreciate the response.

I never played the original GW and am looking forward to the second. I have a few buddies who got me into it (I haven't played the beta sadly) and we're all buying/upgrading our computers just for this game. I personally am stuck in the stoneage with my desktop, (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, ATI 2600 HD 256MB) so a new gaming rig is in order.

Good to know the 660m handles the game quite well in 1080.

Haha, yes, I caught on to the 'mine' thing. I'm not too incredibly picky when it comes to the display, although I won't complain if given the option for an IPS display. Cooling is my biggest issue, I fear I'd run this laptop into the ground.

"I would buy it again for my wife."

I see what you did there...

This makes me a little less confident with purchasing the Y580, which isn't a bad thing. I'm leaning towards a Sager, like Zimm42. The N9150 is "almost" a perfect match for me. The only issue is the cooling is a bit iffy (I'd have to do some hardware mods) and the 9150 offers the Fermi 670m/675m, ATI 7970m and 680m Kepler based graphics solutions. I really want Kepler, but the 680m is stupid expensive ($400 extra!!). The 7970m is based on the 28nm architecture, but it generates a lot of heat. Also, ATI's graphics switching technology blows, as does their drivers for the 7970m in general...

Are there any laptops out there that you would purchase for yourself? I really respect your opinion, which is saying a lot became I'm extremely obsessive compulsive and relish over the fine details, lol. I personally would kill for a laptop with MXM support, that's become my bottom line. But the Asus G55VM looks nice, super good cooling, but no Optimus. (?) - SO HARD TO CHOOSE!

 

How easy would you say is it to clean the intake fans from taking the back panel off?

 

Keep in mind the other features of the laptop. Lenovo has very good keyboards, for the most part, while Sager is kind of lagging. There have been reported ghosting issues with Sager and having to press the keys hard on the stock keyboard. There is also the trackpad which is not very good either.

The Sager, though, is a more capable gaming machine--no doubt about it. But if you're going to be doing things other than gaming (the Y580 also has better battery life), you might want to be careful about just zoning in on the specs. The keyboard, trackpad, battery life, driver issues, and the price ultimately made me decide on the Y580. I will definitely review the machine once it comes in, but it is due for next week.

 

I know what you mean. I have C2D too with 560Ti and still wondering if it manage to run GW2 smoothly...

Like I said somewhere before - I thought 680M and 7970M are good options but then I red Sager review with those cards and...geez how hot and noisy they can get.

No, not really. I would buy this if they would give me a better display. I would put 7970M there because of price - I don't need optimus.

I spend last six months choosing notebook for my wife.

I think it's quite easy...for me at least.

 

560Ti >>>>>>> ATI 2600 HD - I can barely play Minecraft on high at 1080. I'm in desperate need of something new.

I agree, the noise is something I can learn to deal with. (Headphones) - But not the heat. I read that switching out some of the washer that hold down the heat sink and some foil mods can knock 9*C off the overall temperature, but I'd rather not void my warranty within the first few hours of purchasing a laptop.

Two Sager deals are located in the city I live in. I wonder if I shot one of them an email and told them my concerns and/or met with them they'd allow me some pre-construction modifications?

Yeah, that's practically what I would purchase.

Damn, I'm going on one month, spending up to two hours every other day.

I'm thinking about selling my 24" iMac online, getting $700 out of it. Then buying a Catleap 1440p monitor for $350 w/shipping and build a desktop. I already calculated the price and it'll cost me about $2,040. Minus $700 and that's $1,340. Or, about $100 more than I'd pay for a Y580. I'd lose portability, which is the only downside.

If I ended up purchasing a Sager/Eurocom or modified G55, I'd be saving money buying a desktop computer. Go figure...

I'd settle for a 660M laptop with MXM for around $1k, but that's turned into a pipe dream. I'm going to a tech start-up meet today, I'll be rocking my EeePC 1000HA netbook. If I'm the only noob there with a netbook then I'm probably going to be back to square one and be stuck on buying a laptop so I have a decent computer while out and about.

 

Hm...If you live in US than you can buy that Neptune for really great price. If I would like to but it, I would have to add tax (19%) and shipping (145$). That's one of main reasons I didn't bought it yet.
And there's big chance that Neptune has better cooling then average notebook...at least I hope it has.
Only disadvantage are dimensions and weight. But I don't need ultra portability - all I need to do is move it from desk to balcony or living room if I have whim.

Portability - I have few friends in my work who travels a lot and after talking with them my conclusion was that best screen size is 13-14". That's why, regardless of what I'm going to buy as main gear, I will buy something portable...

 

I've made a little update with my impressions on playing two AAA games. Below is update alone:

 

I was curious if there was an open mSATA slot in the Y580's or did you have to remove the wifi card. I wasn't able to get a clear answer from the Lenovo reps on that issue.

If there is an open slot would I be able to install an mSATA SSD, wipe the HDD, install windows and primary programs on the SSD, and use the HDD for data storage? I thought about replacing the HDD with an SSD drive but if this works it gives me the boot time and speed I want with the overall storage I need without having to carry around an external HD.

 

How's the portability of the y580? I'm thinking of getting it for uni for work/gaming so i'd need to take it to lectures and stuff, what do you think from a first hand experience?
And how's the battery life?
Also are the heat issues tolerable?
Lastly, do you think it would last 3-4 years or more, as in is it a good quality laptop.

Sorry for asking so many questions i would really appreciate any input.

 

Hi CeeHak;

I'm a PhD student and so far I can tell you this is a great machine. I got it on 7/11 (so only a few days using it) but I bet it can handle anything you need for your work/university. As for games unfortunately I don't have any . But I bought it for the same reason as yours, plus my previous laptop died.

In terms of portability I think is good. My previous laptop was an HP DV9000 series so it was a monstrous 17in and I got used to it, so this one for me is nothing compared to the HP.

As for battery live I get around 5.5 hrs, but it depends on what you're doing obviously.

How much it will last? No idea, this is my first Lenovo and I don't know anyone who owns one, so everything I've learned is from Google and this forum. I bought my HP in August 2007 and died this May so I hope the Y580 lasts more than that

In terms of built quality I think is solid. Although if you lift it from opposite corners you may feel that it bent very slightly almost unnoticeable, but is nothing to be worried about.

From what I've read if you're planning on heavy gaming, you should by a cooler pad to avoid any excessive heat.

 

There is open slot for mSATA. You can see on photos at the bottom of my review. mSATA is to the left from HDD and wifi is diagonally to the left, right below mSATA - it has two black cables (antennas) coming from it.
You can of course use mSATA SSD as bootable drive and HDD only for storage. Just be sure that SATA is set to AHCI for best performance.

It's used by my wife and she uses it only within our house so I'm not sure i have proper data to answer your questions. But lets try:
1. If you wear it in backpack then it has good portability for this class of notebooks.
2. My first hand experience are written in first post of this thread. It's really great notebook for this price.
3. I didn't use battery even once, so I can't help you here at all. Windows said that on performance setting it could last something around 3h but I think it wouldn't be as much with gaming.
4. Heat is not a problem. In the worse scenario keyboard is slightly warm but it's far from uncomfortable.
5. I don't believe in good quality hardware this days. Last one had over four years when display connector started to break. If this one will last around 3 years I will be happy.

 

Just a quick question, but I'm really curious as to how you got it with no OS preinstalled? Thanks!

 

Quite easy: add to basket -> checkout -> the end.
There is model without OS in my country - each combination of components has version with and without OS (about 51€ difference). It's not something very unusual here.
But to be specific there was OS: DOS

 

Thanks. Doesn't seem to be an option here in the US. Oh well.

 

Thanks for the info. I thought that was the case but I just wanted to confirm before I bought.
Do you have any recommendations on mSATA SSD's? I know the intels are good and the ocz are garbage but I'm looking to spend around $100-$150 dollars and at least get 64GB, preferably 128. I was looking at the Mushkin 120 GB model. Its got a great price and seems to be popular because most of the websites that sell them are sold out.

 

No, I don't. I bought cheapest one I could find. But if I would like spend more then I would try to find SSD with synchronous memories - they're generally more efficient.

 

It's a little heavier than the DV6 but it's still way lighter than my previous Asus G series.

 

The Caps Lock and Num Lock indicators are located at the front. What's lacking is the Hard drive indicator. That's what I hate about the Macbook so I don't know why Lenovo copied it.

Sibilance is rather high when headphones are plugin. Does anyone notice this? So far the DV6 has better audio through headphones.

 

I have to disagree with your assessment of dv6's audio quality. The Beats software had an atrocious autoleveling effect with the volume that made it seem like some annoying brother was turning my volume knob up and down while listening to a song through my headphones. That was a big factor in influencing my decision to return my dv6. Turning off the Beats Software removed any fullness from the sound, leaving behind one that can be described as tinny. It was absolutely the worst sound experience I had with a laptop, especially after being perfectly happy for five years with their business notebook line. IMHO the Y580 produces a much better listening experience than the dv6.

 

This is an interesting observation. My dv6 sandy never had the auto leveling issue. But surprisingly, the Beats software really worked so you can't disable it. I will observe the audio again of Y580. Maybe old anime series don't have good audio quality. What audio settings do you use? Maybe I missed out something.

 

If you want to test audio for it's clarity you should get some files with good quality and clean sound - for example not some guitars. I like to test on The Book of Secrets by Loreena McKennit and I will as soon I get back from work.
If there was auto-gain maybe you had checked some option for normalization?

 

It was the buggy Beats Audio drivers that were shipped with the dv6t-7000 and the annoying audio leveling of the volume is well documented among ivy bridge pavilion owners. The problem is that it usually takes a few months for HP to acknowledge the problem and release an updated fix. The solution, for those like myself who prefer to listen to audio via headphones, was to downgrade the drivers to those that HP released for the Envy last December. That, in effect, removed the annoying autoleveling of the volume from the headphone jack at the expense of the sound quality coming from the laptop speakers (4 + 1 subwoofer) which now came in tinny. This autoleveling effect was prominent in rock and classical lossless files I tested (FLAC, WAV or CD Audio). Rock sounds were all wavy and quieter classical passages were warbly. Good riddance.

 

So far I'm using the One Key Theater button and I'm shuffling between Normal and Movie mode. The movie mode is perfect for movies that support surround, it's useless for stereo. But for songs, Normal mode is better because vocals sounds weaker in Movie mode. It's more of the sibilance for female voices at higher pitches.

@ssri
I see. It was the ivy bridge version that has the issues. Hopefully they fix the drivers.

A follow up question, are your boot times fast for the 1TB hard drive? Mine's a little slow, I already used selective startup but it didn't changed much. My dv6 sandy is way faster in boot times.

 

I agree that normal mode sounds fine for music. As for your second question, I can't answer it because I installed an SSD soon after purchasing my Y580 and moved my 1TB over to the optical disc drive bay for documents/media files/etc. Your HDD on your DV6 could have been 7200rpm vs the slower 5400rpm 1TBs that Lenovo shipped with the Y580. I would say defrag your HDD but it should already be unfragmented since it is brand new.

 

The dv6 sandy has the 750gb 5400rpm hardisk so I don't think it's a hardisk issue. I think it's more on the windows as I noticed that opening apps and loading of webpages also has a delay or not as fast as the dv6. Weird for a first time setup of Windows. Or do I have any ram issues?

 

I saw those delays you're talking about. Boot time isn't perfect either. But I assumed that it's general notebook issue because old one and one of Dells behave the same. I think it could be HDD after all. But not related to speed but to drive itself - maybe it's just slow. We have to aware that Y580 is quite cheap for what it has to offer it terms of overall performance so they had to cut something.
I remember those delays from before I move swap to mSATA SSD and enabled readyboost on it (for fun). I'll check if they are still present.

 

This would have been valid if my dv6 sandy is slower, but apparently this Y580 is slower software wise considering it is ivy already. I get a lot of programs not responding so far. I already did a windows update. Will try to check disk to see if there are errors. I have a lot of waiting time so far on this laptop. Dota2 loads way slower here than my dv6. Weird weird, worst case I will install win7 ultimate.

 

Is the heat a factor for hardisk performance? So far I don't notice the temperature of the hardisk getting very hot but is this a possible factor?

 

My wife didn't notice any delays and loading games is even faster then on my desktop. So maybe it's hardware issue? You could do clean install to see if this will help. This way you would be sure that this isn't software fault.

I don't think so. I made tests where everything was quite hot and didn't notice any difference.

 

I ran checkdisk is here is the log file:


CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
178176 file SDs/SIDs processed. Index $SII of file 9 contains 372 unused index entries.
Index $SDH of file 9 contains 372 unused index entries.
There are 372 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.
28102 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
36912752 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.
The Volume Bitmap is incorrect.
Windows found problems with the file system.
Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct these.

929369087 KB total disk space.
287545028 KB in 140476 files.
76404 KB in 28103 indexes.
309335 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
641438320 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
232342271 total allocation units on disk.
160359580 allocation units available on disk.

Windows found an error and i need to run checkdisk again with /f. I should be able to claim warranty on this hardisk right?