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    My Gaming Experience on a T60 w/ x1400

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by geforcewong, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. geforcewong

    geforcewong Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I was playing Counter-Strike Source last night on my notebook and playing around with different configurations, and I really didn't like the frame rates per second I was getting. On 15" native resolution, and textures and details turned to medium, AA off, Filtering set to trilinear, I only get around 30-40 fps(Bad fps, looks nice though) On 800 X 600 resolution with low settings, 2x AA, trilinear filtering, I get around 70-80 fps (good fps, but fuzzy). Has anyone tried the omega drivers and have gotten better results? Or does anyone have their video config set up differently for higher fps on a T60? Or maybe I should go back to CS 1.6? Also, I'd like to know if anyone was able to configure their T60 to have a refresh rate higher than 60Hz?
     
  2. pbdavey

    pbdavey Notebook Consultant

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    Can't refresh higher than 60Hz. LCDs have a natural "refresh" just like they have a native resolution. Refresh is really a CRT issue referring to how quickly the ray gun can make a pass. In LCDs you are limited by response time, which has to do with how quickly a pixel in the matrix can change color. For the T60, your screen is limited to 60Hz, which means your LCD's response time is pretty slow and you'll probably notice slight ghosting.

    As for your settings, have you tried 1024x768 with AA and a lesser filter? The x1400 is not a good gaming card, so you'll have to live with it not being perfect. 1400x1050 is a pretty high resolution for a not-so-great card to number crunch for.
     
  3. geforcewong

    geforcewong Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was hoping the screen was capable of higher refresh rates through a simple software fix but I guess not. I did a little more research and found that the Flexview has like a 20-30ms response rate (BOE-Hydis), which is really bad...most good desktop LCD's have a response rate of 12ms or lower. I already knew the x1400 wasn't going to be that great for Source or Battlefield 2, but I didn't want to haul a big brick with me to school everyday. I guess I should be studying more and playing less anyways :rolleyes:.
     
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    ramian Notebook Consultant

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    Just to correct a minor mistake... the Flexview (IPS) screens in the T60 are made by LG-Philips, not BOE-Hydis which does some of the non-Flexview 14" screens. They have a response rate of 30ms, though high, does not seem to produce a ghosting effect (at least to my eyes).
    http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/prd/prd301_j_e.jsp
    Anyway, with the graphics capabilities the limiting factor, it'd be unlikely that one will be playing a game in which ghosting would be apparent.

    cheers!
     
  6. GrA

    GrA Notebook Enthusiast

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    My T60 with the 14' monitor(No flexview) has the same problem, maybe even worse.
    I think if you use a external monitor, the response time can be lower by a lot. And x1400 should be able to handle CS pretty well.However, you can always play these kinds of games on your desktop.
     
  7. SkiBunny

    SkiBunny Notebook Deity

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    GrA, why is your keboard "crappy" ?
    Did you tyr to call in and get your keyboard exchanged? Other ppl have done that...
     
  8. geforcewong

    geforcewong Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ramian, is Phillips the only company that makes 15" Flexview screens for Thinkpads? I really couldn't find out who made mine when I went to research all the parts that were used to make my T60. I looked at all the FRU numbers but none of them matched the FRU of any of the LCD screens.
     
  9. ramian

    ramian Notebook Consultant

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    I think I will have to revoke my previous statement that I made in my post above. I had totally forgotten about UXGA screens and hence only considered the SXGA+ screens when I read up on screen manufacturers. I do apologise for the mistake on my part.

    The 15" Flexview LCD screens with SXGA+ (1400x1050) resolution are made by LG-Philips. The link I provided previously for this screen is correct.

    The 15" UXGA (1600x1200) Flexview is however, indeed made by BOE-Hydis. And if I'm not wrong, the link to the product is this: http://www.boehydis.com/eng/03_prod...otebook&openBox=2&subBox=null&openSubBox=null
    Response time is same as the LG-Philips screen (30ms).

    cheers!