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    My first laptop: T60 or R60?:confused:

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Daimos0, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. Daimos0

    Daimos0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, guys!

    I know this question has been asked already but I'm getting myself my first ever laptop and after narrowing down my options I don't know whether to choose the T60 or the R60. I'm going to be buying the laptop this week before the special offer ends.

    The T60 configured to my specs costs $1,513.68 + tax

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T5500 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB)[1]
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium[12]
    14.1 SXGA+ TFT
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 128MB (is it worth paying $50 more?)
    1 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (1 DIMM)[8]
    Integrated fingerprint reader
    120GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm[4]
    CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim[5]
    ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi wireless LAN Mini-PCIe US/EMEA/LA/ANZ[10]
    9 cell Li-Ion Battery[60]
    1 Year Limited Warranty[7]

    While the R60 comes to $1,439.48 + tax

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T5500 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB)[1]
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium[12]
    14.1" SXGA+ TFT
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 128MB,1394
    1.5 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)[8]
    Integrated fingerprint reader
    120GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm[4]
    CD-RW/DVD-ROM 24x/24x/24x/8x Max Combo Ultrabay Enhanced[5]
    Integrated Bluetooth PAN
    ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi wireless LAN Mini-PCIe US/EMEA/LA/ANZ[10]
    9 cell Li-Ion Battery[60]
    1 Year Limited Warranty[7]

    I don't know the R60 is $74.20 less and I'm on a somewhat tight budget (1,500 including tax). But from what I read the T60 is more durable and lighter than the R60. And I prefer my stuff to be durable and long lasting, especially since I'll be taking the notebook I buy to college, so it will have to last a while.

    So guys which one do you think I should buy?

    Please help me

    Dai
     
  2. Airman

    Airman Band of Gypsys NBR Reviewer

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    Either will be fine, but if the T60 is only $75.00 more I would splurge and go with it.
     
  3. Beltonius

    Beltonius Notebook Consultant

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    Since the two are identical, basically, internally you're paying mostly for the thinner/lighter T60 (and also exchanging the R60's IEEE1394 port for the T60's IR port)

    I was faced with a similar quandary not too long ago and ended up choosing a pre-configured T60 that was cheaper than the custom R60 I would have ordered (basically identical to yours except that I would have gotten it with 512MB RAM and bought more RAM seperately).
     
  4. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    I would recommend the T60--although you pay a little more up front, you will get a longer lasting, sturdier, lighter computer. Either will be a great computer, you're basically paying an extra 75 bucks for weight and slimness.

    If you will be doing any gaming I would recommend the x1400--otherwise the x1300 would suffice.
     
  5. vinceg84

    vinceg84 Notebook Consultant

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    FWIW, he's getting more RAM in the R60.
     
  6. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    Good point. Remember that RAM is easy to install, *relatively* cheap to buy and can be upgraded later while the size and weight of the computer cannot be.
     
  7. Daimos0

    Daimos0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    One more thing, since I don't do any serious gaming, then the X1300 should be good for me. Or should I pay more to get the X1400 since I'm also buying Vista Premium?

    Thanks
     
  8. Daimos0

    Daimos0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright following what you guys said, since Ram can be upgraded I'm leaning towards the T60 and I've just configured it so that is $1,460.68 + tax.

    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T5500 (1.66GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB)[1]
    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium[12]
    14.1 SXGA+ TFT
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 64MB
    1 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (1 DIMM)[8]
    Integrated fingerprint reader
    120GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm[4]
    CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim[5]
    ThinkPad 11a/b/g Wi-Fi wireless LAN Mini-PCIe US/EMEA/LA/ANZ[10]
    9 cell Li-Ion Battery[60]
    1 Year Limited Warranty[7]

    Does this look good?
     
  9. johnny0001

    johnny0001 Notebook Consultant

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    Personally, I would get a 6 cell battery. 9 cell sticks out from the back.

    I also would rather get an 60gb or 100gb hdd @ 7200rpm than a 120gb @ 5400rpm. I got my T60 with 120gb 5400rpm but I was stupid in thinking that it would make the notebook a bit cooler and save battery life.

    I also would get a better processor, perhaps a 1.83ghz one or 2.0ghz, because it's hard to upgrade it later on. It should be only 75 to 150 bucks more.

    Edit: sorry, i didn't see your budget but that's what I would do. Processor is the most important part so if I were you, I would downgrade hdd and battery and get 1.83ghz processor.
     
  10. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Having owned both a R and a T series notebooks, they are pretty similar quality wise. You don't get the mag-alloy lid on the R60, but I can only find small spot on mine where I can make it ripple. The R60 is slightly heavier than the T60, hardly noticeable in my opinion. The R is thicker which I kinda like, but I'm nutty that way. I guess if they are similar in price I would take the T.
     
  11. yongren

    yongren Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'd get as much processor speed as the budget will allow and compensate by scaling back on the HDD size. (Make more use of DVDs or CDs and USB storage.) I also endorse the idea of a 6 cell vs. 9 (because the 9 sticks out the back).

    Perhaps the X1300 would work well in your configuration because, while Microsoft cursorily recommends a minimum of 128 MB of graphics RAM in order to run Vista, their top-level Vista web page info likely speaks only of desktops--and may not be informative about the more modest needs of the laptop display resolution (as opposed to 128 MB RAM supporting up to 2,756,000 total pixels (e.g. 1920 × 1200)).

    I notice a big difference in the shape and scale of R vs. T. The lid on the R is also much deeper at the top of the display, and its lid profile has a wedge shape from top to bottom that I don't find appealing--and that doesn't exist in the far sleeker, compact and uniformly-parallelogrammatic T.
     
  12. paqtrick22

    paqtrick22 Notebook Evangelist

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    i'd advise you get the 9-cell if you want some long run. i think it's cool to have a 9-cell since it runs longer compared to the 6-cell. more battery and you do more. or maybe have the 6-cell if you're close to an AC source.

    X1400 just to play safe. it's nice to aim a little higher, except in some instances.

    i like my laptop to be reasonably thick :) or else i won't notice it in my bag (in the case of sony X505, that thin little notebook years ago)
     
  13. Daimos0

    Daimos0 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright guys!

    Thanks a lot for the help, I'm off to buy my notebook now :)