NVIDIA NVS 5100m

Never heard of this GPU of the new ThinkPad W510. any idea

NVIDIA NVS 5100m compared to ATI 4670. which one is better?

By the way, Why doesn't it come with NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M 1GB graphics that they had advertised before releasing.

Is this one, NVIDIA NVS 5100m better then?

 

The new HP EliteBook 8540p will come with this card, too, and I'm wondering about the same comparison. Anyone know?

 

Well, the nvidia product page for mobile GPUs is down right now. I suspect they are updating it, and we'll know alot more soon. (crossing fingers)

 

While you're at it: Wha'ts a NVS 3100m??

 

I was able to load the page for FX880. There was a picture of the W510 on it. So NVS 5100M = FX 880M?

 

Here is a snapshot of it

 

probably a refresh of fx 770m which was gt9600 based. same bandwidth/power consumption

 

Looks like the FX880m is better than FX1700m

http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadrofx_go.html

 

I hope so but I dont think so

 

i assume nvs 5100m is fx880m based on the listing on retailers sites that we've seen before (fx880m)

And the picture of the w510 on the page gives it a way too.

I'm curious as to the 3100m however.

 

Ive been told the NVS 3100m is just a refresh of the 160m/170m line but that is in no way official, it was a sketch source

 

lenovo has kind of been tricky with their video card names. At one point the 3650 in T500 was called AMD M86m ans 3470 was AMD M82m. so who knows what exact model it is.

 

most same as gt240m, base on GT330M or GT335M

CUDA Cores 48

GPU Memory Specs:
Memory Size Total 1 GB DDR3
Memory Interface 128-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 25.6

Feature Support:
Shader Model 4.0
OpenGL 3.2
Microsoft DirectX 10.1
NVIDIA CUDA Architecture
NVIEW Display Management Software
FSAA (maximum) 16x

Thermal and Power Specs:
EnergyStar Enabling Yes (3.2W)
Maximum Power Consumption Up to 35W
PowerMizer Power Management 9.0

 

Is that for the 5100 or 3100?

 

FX880m I believe, so NVS 5100.

 

I think there are usually three names. For example for the 3650 that would be core (r635), chip (m86) and marketing name (hd3650 (consumer)/firegl5700 (pro)). OR SOMETHING like that.
The problem with nvidia is that they have 4+ marketing names alone, and keep adding new ones regularly for hardware that has been around for years.

 

So the NVS5100 in the T400s is comparable to the GT330M in the Vaio Z? This means we will be able to play quiet a few NEW games at even high settings right?

The only thing I am worried about now is if Lenovo improved the screen quality on the T410 and T410s.

 

Hi Guys,

This lack of information is crazy.... What the hell is the 3100m??? Is it better than the ATI 3470?

I wanted to buy something in the T series, but what is the best discrete graphics in that line up?

I was about to pull the trigger on a T400 with the T9600 Core 2 Duo CPU and the ATI 3470.

Is the i5 520M with the 3100M a better choice (T410)? I really wish Lenovo had some "real" mobile video cards....

R

 

The best GPU in a currently available T-series could very well be the 3650 in the T500.

 

Both cards (NVS 3100 and 5100) are listed in the mobile graphics card pages at notebookcheck:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
NVS 3100M is 310M based
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-3100M.24738.0.html
NVS 5100M is 330M based (looks like)
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-5100M.24946.0.html

 

I wonder how the performance of the NVS 3100 and 5100 compare with the new Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD?

 

I was wondering the same thing.

 

The new Intel chips are supposed to have 25% better overall performance. They have modest MHz bumps and there is some benefit to being integrated to the CPU die.

Some benches: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...unch-clarkdale-core-i5-661-cpu-review-21.html

This is for desktop procs, but you get the point.

The Intel IGP in my Sony Z is pretty much useless when it comes to games like Halflife 2 or Left 4 Dead. Newer games are even worse (Borderlands, Batman Arkham, etc). The GeForce 9400M doesn't fair much better, but the older games work OK.

The Intel chip does play HD and Blueray movies without a problem and sips power.

If you want to play games, go discrete. If you just watch movies and are more concerned with battery life, integrated is the way to go. The new Sony Z takes the switchable graphics to another level with the ability to dynamically switch between IGP and discrete on the fly. Not sure if Lenovo will take advantage of this functionality, but it's part of the Arrendale spec to it's at least possible.

I'm also interested in how the NVS 5100M will do with CUDA operations in TMPEG and Badaboom. It's also supposed to support PhysX. Apparently, the 3100M doesn't support either.

 

The 3100M has 16 CUDA cores ( http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvs_techspecs.html), so it should support CUDA.

 

We still don't know for sure if the 3100M in the discrete-equipped T410/T510 is switchable so I can use the Intel HD when I'm running off the battery? It'd be awfully silly for that not to be supported dynamically since all the hardware is there.

 

You are right, just no PhysX on the 3100M. Not a huge loss.

 

I'd wager the NVS 3100M be better than Intel's integrated solution by quite a bit, but it is still a 64-bit GDDR3 card, so fairly low end and approximately at the same level as HD 54xx series/Geforce 310M (if the specs are accurate). The NVS 5100M should be a middle end card, so most likely 128-bit GDDR3, probably around the level of the HD 5165 (basically same as HD 4650/70)/GT 330M (basically same as GT 240M).

 

The 5100m is about identical to the 240m from the specs, which isn't bad - don't know what the 3100m compares to.

The new intel igp is a huge improvement, probably comparable to the last generation ati 3650, from some snooping around that's about what I found, the 3100m won't be overwhelmingly better than the intel igp

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Quadro-NVS-3100M.24738.0.html
here is the benchmarks.

 

So by the sounds of it the nvs-3100m would be a better choice for gaming over the ATI Mobility Radeon 3470 with 256MB in the t400 , we may even get to play some of the newer games on it?

 

If those benchmarks are accurate i am very excited about that gpu!

 

The 3100M or 5100M?

The 5100M should perform like the 240M.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-240M.17654.0.html

Somebody mentioned the 330M earlier. It'll likely be faster, but not by a large margin. Same 48 core chip, 25 MHz faster GPU clock.

I'm still interested in what the other sister GPU will do, the FX 880M. Lenovo said the W510 would have "up to" the FX 880M. I'm fine with the 5100M, but I'm curious what Lenovo will charge for the "upgrade."

The 3100M Notebookcheck numbers are roughly identical to it's Quadro sister, the 380M. Well, in 3dmark06 at least. The value of gaming benchmarks on workstation-class kit is another debate entirely.

 

Looking at benchmark score (6960 in 3DMark06) of the new elitebook equipped with 5100m it does seem to match the performance of Geforce 330M/240M cards.

Makes me wonder if 5100m and FX880 are actually based on the same core, just use different driver optimizations for each chips. Lenovo could be doing the same thing they did with original W500 - put in actual radeon 3650 physically badged chips and just call them FireGL V5700 via drivers.