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    New Intel x-25 80 gig SSD low HD-TUNE performance

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by philfna, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I am only getting at max 95.5 mbits / second. I have a t61p, and the reviewer was getting 2x that in his test. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
     
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    Three possible things:

    1) The writes should be under 90 MB/s as the Intel x-25M is only rated at 70 MB/s (however it holds this even for very small writes due to a controller that employs write combining and NCQ).

    2) The reads should be better than 90 MB/s, but you are unlikely to get the full 200 MB/s+ that the drive promises. This is because the T61 (and x61, R61) do not support full SATA 2 speeds. Maximum bandwidth is only 1.5 Gbps versus the 3 Gbps supported on the T400, T500, x200, etc.

    3) The Intel drive suffers some issues with internal fragmentation after extensive use (source). You may want to try executing a clean erase and re-imaging your OS onto the drive. This should improve the drive to "like new" performance.
     
  3. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    It is a new clone from my old hard drive (1 day old) could it become fragmented that quickly? Somehow I doubt that.

    I wonder if there is a BIOS setting I need to change? Under policies there is nothing to change with the Intel drive.

    Should I disable readyboost?

    Phil
     
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    Leave Readyboost and superfetch enabled.

    You should enable AHCI if possible (BIOS), as I've read the X-25M performs far better with AHCi enabled. Also, enable the high performance options in device properties (your battery will act as a UPS, so you don't need to worry about losing data).

    It would also help if you could post screenshots of your results from both HD Tune and ATTO.
     
  5. zephir

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    Your speed seems about right to me. The main problem is that you're limited to SATA I speed. When the T61 series comes around, nobody even knows what SSD's are, while HDD at the time doesn't even saturate SATA-I bus speed. That's why Lenovo make a decision (to save battery life, most likely) to reduce the speed down to SATA-I. You can still use SATA-II HDD, but the speed is limited to SATA-I.
    Most of the time, you don't have to worry about tweaking the drive. Either a Samsung or Intel drive is fast enough even if you retain the setting of a normal HDD. But at the same time, if you tweak Windows a little bit to accomodate SSD, you'll feel a slight speed increase as well.
    I hope this helps.
     
  6. philfna

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    I've re-enabled superfetch, and left readyboost alone. ACHI mode is enabled in Bios, but still no where near the 150 mbits which is the bottleneck for sata I.
     
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    I assume you talk about read speed. Even though I say that you're limited to SATA-I speed, the situation is worse than that. I tried a Intel SSD in my T60, and the speed is around 100MB/sec. The T60 and the T61 series are not that different, so I would assume that the speed would be around 100MB/sec as well.
     
  8. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    HD Tune

    Minimum = 60.5 mbits
    Maximum = 96.8 mbits
    Average = 95.1 mbits

    Access time 0.2 ms
    Burst Rate 56.7 mbits
    CPU usage = 5 %

    No luck running ATTO...sorry is it for RAID only? Looks like I am getting the max out of T61's ACHI controller...oh well still a lot better than the old setup.
     
  9. jonlumpkin

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    You need to run ATTO as an administrator on Vista (it writes a scratch file to the system directory [blocked by UAC]).

    Your minimum and burst rate also seem a tad low. On my SSD, the difference between minimum and maximum is <5 MB/s. Unless your minimum is a single low spike, you may have a different problem. A screenshot would be helpful (Alt+PrintScreen with the windows selected, paste into paint).
     
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    It was just a one time blip on the drop off for the minimum
     
  11. philfna

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    Just did ATO averaging 120 to 140 mbits / second on read 60 to 70 mbits on write.
     
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    That sounds like the limit of SATA I to me. I think that is the best you are going to do.
     
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    How do you do that? Is that for all laptops with an SSD running Vista?
     
  14. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Just a follow up. I got a W500 and a 256 gb Samsung SSD getting 180mbits/sec write and 218 mbits/write...pretty happy.
     
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    Where did you get the samsung SSD? I thought they only sold those to OEMs.

    p.s. you must mean 180MB/sec not mbits
     
  16. philfna

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    Yeah MB not Mb -- I got it off of Ebay for 649.00 before Live Cashback so final price(Live cashback was 14 percent then) and 20 dollar discount for e-check = a decent price for the size of drive.