New T61 Penyrn poor performance

Hey guys,

I owned a T60 with 1 gig of ram that seems faster than my T61 with 2.5ghz 6meg cache with 4 gig of ram. I runs super slow, I have stripped most everything out of start up, defragged all the basic stuff, there still is a delay in opening IE or doing other stuff.

Any ideas?

 

Do you still have the thinkvantage software on it? Try a clean install and minimize what thinkvantage software you install... I have the same proc and 3gb of ram and it runs great... very speedy

 

the Penyrn's seem to be have a very slight improvement in benchmarks...mind you u also gain a little on the temp and power side.
Are u running vista on both?

try a process watching app and see if you have any processes running that u dont need that slipped away from ur initial clean up.

 

Bunch of junk software are killing your beautiful hardware. Try clean install!

 

My R61 with T9300/3GB RAM/250GB 5400RPM HDD is super fast. But i am comparing it to 1st generation dothan running at 1.6ghz. BTW use opera or firefox instead of IE.

 

I have XP sp2, and 7200rpm 100gb drive, so this thing SHOULD scream, but just isn't. I have all the thinkvantage software installed, I didn't want to reformat it so soon, but I think it will be the same because of the recovery software brings all the same crap back onto it. I guess I could just reinstall plan old XP from a seperate disc instead?

 

yeah I have opera and firefox, but have found a lot of things dont work right with opera, firefox seems to be decent but I'm not crazy about the look.

 

the look of firefox is completely configurable

 

...looks vs speed...im with speed....a reinstall with any xp cd should be fine...but using lenovos cds works too...just have to go through the hassle of uninstalling some junk

 

If you're fairly competent with computers, do a clean install from this excellent guide:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=144783

I did it on my new T61p a couple weeks ago, and the notebook is well beyond considerably faster than with the factory settings.

Also, restoring from the backup partition, won't help, it'll still have all the bloatware.

 

Was your T60 running Windows XP and your T61 is now running Vista?

By nature, Vista will run a bit slower than XP, especially if you run with the Aero Glass UI turned on. Vista can be tweaked to run a lot better than it does out-of-the-box, and some of these tweaks should help a lot.

EDIT: Between the time I started posting, and actually hit "submit, there was some clarification, so I guess you're not running Vista.

I'd either do a clean install, or uninstall some of your ThinkVantage stuff. Some of it is really useful stuff, other parts of it just duplicate things that Windows XP would do for you already.

Also, uninstall the trial copy of Norton Internet Security and replace it with a real antivirus program that doesn't hog the CPU, if you haven't already done so (Avast! Antivirus is free, and works very well).

Finally, you may wish to try disabling or uninstalling Diskeeper Lite to see if that helps. It's a reasonable defrag program, but for some people, it seems to run at inopportune times, and can cause heavy disk access. I'm still running it, but I've removed any of its scheduling features so I have to tell it to run manually.

 

Hijack... Hey Lonewolf, I'm also still running Diskeeper Lite and agree it does an Ok job of defragging. But how did you remove it's scheduling feature? There's a process running that must control this but nowhere in the program (that I've yet found) do I see the ability to stop this autoloading process. How'd you do it?

TIA!

 

All I did was run Diskeeper, and click the option to "Clear All Schedules". This leaves the drive in an unscheduled state, AFAIK, it won't defrag unless you tell it to.

Unfortunately, the Diskeeper service still loads no matter what, and there is no way to hide the tray icon. As some reviewers of the ThinkPad have said, Diskeeper Lite is major crippleware --they leave the advanced feature buttons in for features they have stripped out so they can link them to "Buy now and you can get this" garbage. I tried setting the Diskeeper service to Manual, but Diskeeper Lite isn't smart enough to start its own service if you try to run it, it will tell you that its service is not running.

Diskeeper defrags a lot better than Windows generally does, but I don't know that the Lite version is worth the hassle compared to the built-in defrag utility of Windows (which is basically an even more cut-rate product licensed to Microsoft by Diskeeper).

 

Thanks for the clarification... I think I got my tray icon to disappear only by editing the Taskbar's Hide inactive icon's settings to "always hide." Not a very elegant solution. While I like Diskeeper enough I am tempted to try something else like Defraggler (from the CCleaner folks).

 

Does anybody know if Diskeeper Lite works in Vista 64-bit? I've heard it doesn't and ever since I did the clean install on my T61 and put the 64-bit of Vista Home Premium, I haven't bothered to install Diskeeper Lite.

Keep in mind that Defraggler is still in beta testing so it might be buggy. However it does look promising and I'm very excited for it. Anything from the folks that made CCleaner must be great.

Their new file recovery program, Recuva, is supposidly very good.

 

Yes I can do that, but is there a guide like this for XP? Or should I just find an XP SP2 disk and do that, because obviously I don't want to do a restore from the system partition.

 

Thank you for the suggestions, I hate Norton and uninstalling it was the first thing I did, along with diskkeeper lite. I did have it run a defrag before I deleted it.

For the record both machines are running XPsp2, I think the Thinkvantage stuff doesn't really take up memory except for the connections, I have the security crap disabled. I think the access connections will connect faster than XP when coming out of standby, so I'm gonna keep that.

 

I think you're right about TP's Access Connections reconnecting faster when coming out of standby or hibernate. It reconnects very quickly whereas Windows' facility always seems to take a while.

 

i didnt do a clean install but just cleaned up some of the junk i diddnt want and I have 30 websites opened right now on firefox with aim and media player..ram usage is just under 60% and my computer hasnt slowed down yet

 

FYI Diskkeeper is a really crappy defragmenter. Try perfect disk...I'ts night and day difference, you can even defrag operating system files on startup. Diskkeeper sucks so bad I once had a HD that was fragemented so bad DK could not figure out what to do, even after 10 passes I still had high fragmentation. one pass with perfect disk cleared things right up...

for more info see this thread.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1203957

I would definately do a fresh install. My X61S + vista was the same way until I bought 4GB memory for it and did a fresh install. Install the bare min; drivers and the apps to manage shortcut keys,and power. Now it is quite fast!

 

"...I'ts night and day difference, you can even defrag operating system files on startup. Diskeeper sucks so bad I once had a HD that was fragemented so bad DK could not figure out what to do, even after 10 passes I still had high fragmentation. one pass with perfect disk cleared things right up..."

Wow.

1.) I've had both and both are good.

2.) DiskKeeper has boot time defragmention also.

3.) It's really possible that you will always have fragmented files for a number of reasons that has nothing to do with the defragmentation product.

4.) If you have a disk that you allowed to become so highly defragmented that a derfragmentor could fully defragment it, you are responsible, not the defragmenter.

5.) There is a difference between diskeeper and diskeeper light.

 

Not the point, one defragmenter took care of it in one pass, the other didn't fix the problem after 10+ passes it refused to do anymore defragmentation...

PD has alot more settings to play with as well. I have both and highly recommend PD > DK.

 

Check your BIOS settings for performance.

 

Ok I'll try reformatting