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    New T61W 15.4 question.

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by lowspeed, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll wait till the service people come... the part is on back order. (figures)



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  2. unhooked

    unhooked Notebook Deity

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    lowspeed, let it rise...
    Let's see how hot will it get.
    Even if the temps get near self-distracting levels, the processor has enough of the built-in safety features to protect it from melt down.
     
  3. Otter

    Otter Notebook Consultant

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    My T61 with discrete graphics T7300 is nice and cool at 43-45 degrees under light load. Under moderate, it goes up to 48-52, and if I play a video game for 6 hours it goes up to 60-64. Those are temps from CoreTemp.exe, mobilemeter reads about 2 degrees higher than coretemp. But I don't think I have ever hit over 70.

    I don't have the Nvidia software that monitors the GPU temp, so I can't report that one.
     
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    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    That sounds about right. You didn't have both cores maxed out at 100% playing games. You would have to run prime95 (x2 applications simultaneously) in order to do that (or similar method). When playing games, you don't max both cores also by the time you shut the game down and check the temp, your temp has already significantly dropped (unless you are monitoring temps constantly in the background while the game is playing that keeps a log).
     
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    Got my 14" SXGA+ T61 today.
    Have spent some time playing with it - was reinstalling Vista to get rid of the bloatware, then adding some necessary apps.
    Finally got some time to run the test.

    Ambient temps - 78F

    Idle Temps: 32 - 35C with the core clock values alternating between 800-1200-1600 MHz.
    Load Temps: 73C, on both cores after 30 min of running Prime 95 on each core simultaneously. The readings got to 73C after 20 min into the test and then stabilized at that level.
     

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  6. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    That sounds reasonable...

    What software did you use to monitor the temp ?



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  7. unhooked

    unhooked Notebook Deity

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    Lavalys Everest

    btw, I've just found an interesting utility by Intel - Intel Thermal Analysis Tool (TAT)
    Supposed to be designed specifically for Core Duo processors.
    Haven't tried it yet.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392/mirrors.php
     
  8. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    They came and replaced the FAN (left me the old one... yeah ... )

    But i can see an improvement... prime95 running on both cores, and the temp is between 69-73. and it stays like that... been running it for the past 1/2 hour.



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  9. unhooked

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    Sounds good.
    Did they replace just the fan, without lifting off the heatsink?
     
  10. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    No they replaced the entire heatsink with fan... i guess its considered one part.

    The interesting part is that it comes with thermal paste already applied on the appropriate spots.



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  11. unhooked

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    Have you noticed anything wrong with the old one?
     
  12. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    Nope.... looked normal....



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  13. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    P.S how do you like your new machine ? :)



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  14. Kebs

    Kebs Notebook Evangelist

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    sluggish and slow is directly correlated to whether or not you have the 2.4ghz cpu and 4gb of ram w/ the 570m 256MB.
     
  15. unhooked

    unhooked Notebook Deity

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    Care to elaborate?
     
  16. unhooked

    unhooked Notebook Deity

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    I like it so far.
    Actually like it much better than my 15" T60 with Flexview (returned last month) - it was one of the wrong size for me and way too heavy.
    But the major point for the return was the Flexview!
    Yes, it was sharp and crisp, with excellent contrast and colors, very good viewing angles, BUT it was dimm, so much that I couldn't take it anymore.
    A major disappointment considering all the glowing reviews on the net!
    And it's not like it's been defective.

    I'll need more play time with the new machine in order to form a more informed opinion.
    I've just gotten it last night.

    How about yourself?
     
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    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    I actually like it. The screen is dim outside... but i mostly use it indoor.

    It now runs at an acceptable 43C And i tried the photo batch conversion again and it didn't go above 65C so that's an improvement. I wish the fan would go faster cause it's definitely whisper now. you can almost not tell its running.

    I really wanted a 14'' but the size is "OK".

    Battery life seems to be around 3 hours. (6cell)

    So far i think the atheros is better than the intel card. (better reception, i can pick up way more AP around where i live)

    Build quality on this one is very good.

    Volume is a tad on the low side, but acceptable.


    That's about it ;-p


    I can probably sell that fan/heatsink assembly on ebay in 2 years.



    Just a comment on the installer:
    he did his job, but he didn't come with the maintenance instruction so he basically guessed his way... he took way too many unnecessary screws and had a hard time putting them in the right spots.

    He also had a some hand shake so i was like, oh boy. But at the end it was completed with no incident.




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    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    Indeed.
    Now it works the way it was supposed to.

    The build quality on mine is very good also.
    Very similar to the T60 I had.
    I got Intel 4965ABG (11n disabled). I hear it's been greatly improved over the older Intel 3945.
    Mine works fine.
    What Intel card did you have before? And which Atheros do you have now?
    The machine came with the copper heatsink.
    Gets very good battery life on the same battery in comparsion to my 15" T60 Flexview.
     
  20. lowspeed

    lowspeed Notebook Evangelist

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    Before i had the Intel AGN. and now i have the Atheros AGN.

    I wish i had a N to test it on :p


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    On some recent thread, I think you expressed your dissatisfaction regarding the SXGA's continued use of older screen technology: For instance, you mentioned the nit rating for the standard screen being 150 compared to the rating of 200 for the wxga+ screen.

    I guess I'm curious as to why you purchased the sxga+ since you had reservations concerning the screen brightness, etc.

    I only ask because I'm close to purchasing an sxga+ myself - primarily because of the price currently afforded by the slickdeals 20%-off coupon, which is almost too good to pass up.

    ..and now that you have it, are your satisfied with your SXGA+ screen.

    Congrats on your purchase, btw!
     
  22. unhooked

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    Thanks.
    Yes, the 14" SXGA+ is pretty bad by todays standards.
    I still have to test it under different lightning conditions.
    My first priority was (is) a 14" unit in the standard aspect ratio, everything else is secondary.
    I'm willing to overlook low brigtness, bad viewing angles, low contrast since there is nothing else left in the market in that particular format.
    Previously I've jumped on the opportunity to get a SXGA+ 15" T60 for the whole reason of it being 4:3 and offered with the Flexview screen at no additional cost.
    I'd probably keep it but its overall dimmines has become a major turn-off.
    The new T61 looks brighter, but I still have to test under the same conditions to be sure about that.
    In other words, get a better screen if you don't care for 4:3.
     
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    According to PC-Wizard, my 15.4'' lcd was made 2005... (maybe thats a good thing)



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  24. ArchAngle

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    Thank you for the response, unhooked.

    Yeah, I too like the 4:3's - just worried about the brightness. If they had a 200 nit rating, (like the 1440*900's) I'd have already bought one this morning.

    Will have to mull this over some more the next few days as I doubt the pricing (for the sxga+) will get much better than currently offered.

    btw, I was surprised to read (in some earlier post) that your Flexview panel was somewhat of a disappointment - I too had been hearing nothing but kudos for such displays. Just goes to show!

    Thanks again.
     
  25. MonsterMaxx

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    Studies show that using a laptop in your lap will cause sterility - the hotter the machine the worse damage it does.


    Lenovo doing it's part to reduce the global population - probably a good idea in China which has about the same habitable sq mi as the US, but more than 5 times the population.
     
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