The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    New Thinkpad Line up

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by rovisa, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    56
    600X, Aug 28, 2014
    #51
  2. nbrguy

    nbrguy Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    6
    The ThinkPad E455 is launching in Sept/Oct 2014. It will not have the dedicated TrackPoint buttons, although the ThinkPad E545 had them.
     
    nbrguy, Aug 30, 2014
    #52
  3. helikaon

    helikaon Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    269
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I wanted to buy new Lenovo Laptop.
    To my great displeasure, i found out, they removed trackpoint buttons. As i use only trackpoint, this is dealbreaker.
    A was ready to spend my bucks for new laptop with IPS display, but what you want to do with laptop, that (even though) has nice specs, you can not work on it.
    I'm now thinking after roughly 12 yrs of using ThinkPads to move to HP. There are some new models using Kauri that i got interested in - and mainly, it has trackpoint with actuall buttons.
     
    helikaon, Aug 31, 2014
    #53
  4. FinkPad

    FinkPad Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    47
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Lenovo will never remove the trackpoint, don't be stupid.
     
    FinkPad, Aug 31, 2014
    #54
  5. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    56
    And you can't wait a few more months for the next line-up with trackpoint buttons?
     
    600X, Aug 31, 2014
    #55
  6. helikaon

    helikaon Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    269
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Are you sure the the trackpoint buttons will be back?
    I'm sure to wait if it is the case.
     
    helikaon, Aug 31, 2014
    #56
  7. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    56
    It has already been established that the trackpoint buttons will be coming back after all the negative feedback lenovo received.
     
    600X, Aug 31, 2014
    #57
    oxf77 likes this.
  8. mightaswell

    mightaswell Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    33
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Thank God!
     
    mightaswell, Sep 1, 2014
    #58
  9. red grenadine

    red grenadine Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    You'd think if they'd have tested all these changes with customers they'd have realized this was not the way to go.
     
    red grenadine, Sep 2, 2014
    #59
  10. nbrguy

    nbrguy Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Looks like the Helix 2 will have 2 keyboard dock options - a regular keyboard without the dedicated TrackPoint buttons and a "pro" keyboard with the dedicated TrackPoint buttons.
     
    nbrguy, Sep 5, 2014
    #60
  11. hBGl

    hBGl Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    The regular dock won't have a trackpoint at all and the pro dock will be released in the beginning of 2015.
     
    hBGl, Sep 6, 2014
    #61
  12. v3dev

    v3dev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I keep seeing positive reviews of the new Chiclet/Apple style keyboards, but I remain unconvinced. Apple invented this for no other reason than they look stylish, and now everyone has to copy them to compete in the market. So much for helping to move the computer forward.
     
    v3dev, Sep 7, 2014
    #62
  13. mightaswell

    mightaswell Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    33
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I find the chiclet keyboard of my T530 a real joy to type on, much better than the keyboard on my macbook pro.
     
    mightaswell, Sep 7, 2014
    #63
  14. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

    Reputations:
    3,018
    Messages:
    3,198
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    231

    Well that's really not a surprising statement in the last...while Macs have many strong points keyboard is definitely not one of them...at least not on the newer models.

    The feel of the *30 series keyboard is OK and it's likely the best island keyboard around but the layout...never. Ever. In. This. House.
     
    ajkula66, Sep 7, 2014
    #64
  15. oxf77

    oxf77 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    31
    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I have an x41, x61, x201 and an x230 (with an x220 keyboard). The x201 keyboard is by farrrrrr the best keyword to type on. I dont care what anyone says- the chiclet was like pressing buttons on a $10 office calculator.

    I would like to see x201 keyboard, with 13.3 inch screen, IPS, TWO slots for memory and non-ULV processor (if they want ULV bring out a x250s).

    Unfortunately it'll be a crap keyboard- which is why I wont be buying anymore Lenovo laptops.
     
    oxf77, Sep 11, 2014
    #65
  16. ArthurG

    ArthurG Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    16
    no no no ! Sony invented the chiclet keyboard, not apple
     
    ArthurG, Sep 15, 2014
    #66
  17. Motosport

    Motosport Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Gentleman, I have a decision to make and I need information, conjecutre, specualtion, etc. (what ever you have)

    I can get a new laptop for my work. They are offering a X240, which I could get in a week.

    But I'm debating whether I should wait for the X250. But then, I don't have much faith in Lenovo to make good decisions as far as design of the new X250. Since X240 was a major redesign, the X250 will probably not deviate too far.

    Are we looking at a half year or longer for the X250 to be released? If so I might as well get the X240 and bear with it for a few years until I can get an upgrade.

    What do you guys think?

    (I'm currently on a T420 with 8RAM 128SSD 2.7Ghz)
     
    Motosport, Sep 17, 2014
    #67
  18. ajkula66

    ajkula66 Courage and Consequence

    Reputations:
    3,018
    Messages:
    3,198
    Likes Received:
    2,318
    Trophy Points:
    231
    ^^^^^^^

    Welcome to the forum!

    Unless you need a FHD screen on an ultraportable or work in the set of circumstances where battery life is everything, I don't see why you'd want to replace a T420 with a X240...

    My $0.02 only...
     
    ajkula66, Sep 17, 2014
    #68
  19. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The X250 will be mostly identical to the X240. Pro's of the X250 however will include dedicated trackpoint buttons, an even better battery life and perhaps even Core M, which would mean that the X250 would be fanless. The latter is just speculation though.
     
    600X, Sep 18, 2014
    #69
    Motosport likes this.
  20. raj5151

    raj5151 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I searched lot of stores for this model, I cant find. Finally I bought ideapad.
     
    raj5151, Sep 18, 2014
    #70
  21. Motosport

    Motosport Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks for the welcome ladies and gentlemen!

    A side of me does want to keep the T420. Actually we have a choice between T440p and the X240. I travel alot so the weight of the device was huge factor in the decision. And also the T440p is back logged in our supply chain for a few months.

    I will just bite the bullet and get a X240. Hopefully I won't put a bullet in my brain for making a bad decision with the X240.

    Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.
     
    Motosport, Sep 18, 2014
    #71
  22. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

    Reputations:
    308
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    56
    BinkNR, Sep 19, 2014
    #72
  23. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    ibmthink, Sep 19, 2014
    #73
  24. mightaswell

    mightaswell Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    33
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Hopefully we get more details soon, and also I hope they don't include the number pad on the keyboard this time around.
     
    mightaswell, Sep 19, 2014
    #74
    oct likes this.
  25. nizzon

    nizzon Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Why would they bring back the trakcpoint buttons on the X250?! We have the X240 and X1 at work and imo the new trackpad works best on the X240. God damnit.
    Forget the buttons and improve the precision on the trackpads instead because that is what really sucks about them.
     
    nizzon, Oct 1, 2014
    #75
  26. choder

    choder Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Oh, now that is very interesting indeed.
     
    choder, Oct 1, 2014
    #76
  27. rl2e

    rl2e Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Interesting...
    Based on the naming, sounds like there's going to be multiple versions of the W550. The S version being a thin and light model like their 14" thinkpad lines, if it's following the same naming scheme.

    Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk
     
    rl2e, Oct 4, 2014
    #77
  28. jacobtc

    jacobtc Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Would be interesting if there is any news on the whole 3:2 screen sizes, I would love to see a 14'' 3:2 model, with dedicated trackpoint buttons!
     
    jacobtc, Oct 4, 2014
    #78
  29. lohapuk

    lohapuk Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    So is the best guess for a launch CES 2015?
     
    lohapuk, Oct 7, 2014
    #79
  30. Sgt.Squirrel

    Sgt.Squirrel Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Its been a month late since Lenovo announced the last thinkpads. I can't find any information about any specs or changes to the new line up. I wish they'd release a pic of the new design language or something. Any know any rumours at a all about whats going on? Broadwell's out already...
     
    Sgt.Squirrel, Oct 7, 2014
    #80
  31. Hobbes1

    Hobbes1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I'm wondering the same thing. We already had tons of info by this time last year.
     
    Hobbes1, Oct 8, 2014
    #81
  32. stackz07

    stackz07 Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    stackz07, Oct 8, 2014
    #82
  33. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

    Reputations:
    308
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Sad—we get the details on the Broadwell-powered Yogas, but still nothing on our beloved (soon to be less beloved?) ThinkPads.
     
    BinkNR, Oct 10, 2014
    #83
  34. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Broadwell is not out yet - with the exception of Core M of course - so its no wonder we have no details yet on any Broadwell ThinkPad other than the Helix 2 and the Yoga 14 (which will be released with Haswell initially).

    Originally, Broadwell was expected to be out mid 2014.
     
    ibmthink, Oct 10, 2014
    #84
    BinkNR likes this.
  35. giggidy

    giggidy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    16
    giggidy, Oct 10, 2014
    #85
  36. livebriand

    livebriand Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    22
    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    31
    livebriand, Oct 11, 2014
    #86
  37. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Thats the original, 2011 Thinkpad X1.
     
    ibmthink, Oct 11, 2014
    #87
    BinkNR likes this.
  38. djembe

    djembe drum while you work

    Reputations:
    1,064
    Messages:
    1,455
    Likes Received:
    203
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Thinkpads use dual- and quad-core processors with vPro (professional and enterprise management) features enabled, and those Broadwell processors have not yet been released. The W series also uses professional (Nvidia Quadro) graphics, which also have not yet been released for Nvidia's latest Maxwell architecture. I would guess there won't be new Thinkpads until the middle of next year.
     
    djembe, Oct 11, 2014
    #88
  39. Hobbes1

    Hobbes1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Bummer.


    .
     
    Hobbes1, Oct 11, 2014
    #89
  40. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Only the Quad-Core machines (T550p/T450p/W550/L550) will be that late. Dual-Core ULV is still going to released early 2015. The main part of the new lineup should be announced shortly before, on or after CES (considering CES is an important show for Lenovo, my guess is that they will be announced on CES Unveiled on January 4).
     
    ibmthink, Oct 11, 2014
    #90
  41. ginsu

    ginsu Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Actually it's not, the power/volume buttons on those are above the keyboard.
     
    ginsu, Oct 17, 2014
    #91
  42. 600X

    600X Endless bus ride

    Reputations:
    677
    Messages:
    813
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    56
    it is the X1 from 2011. I owned one myself so I should know.
     
    600X, Oct 17, 2014
    #92
  43. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I didn´t say "X1 Carbon", I did say "X1". ;) Category:X1 - ThinkWiki
     
    ibmthink, Oct 17, 2014
    #93
  44. MRsa

    MRsa Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    MRsa, Oct 18, 2014
    #94
  45. Bloody Nokia Adept

    Bloody Nokia Adept Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Colleagues, my 2 cents here...

    1. E455 and E555 available there in Japan for a while now -- these are new developments based on AMD APUs
    * ThinkPad E455 | 14.0型AMDプラットフォーム搭載 スタンダード・ノートパソコン Eシリーズ| レノボジャパン
    * ThinkPad E555 | 15.6型AMDプラットフォーム搭載 スタンダード・ノートパソコン Eシリーズ| レノボジャパン
    2. In spite of being re-colored from think-black to more-appleish-grey, these laptops sport precisely the same keyboard/trackpoint/touchpad as the Haswell-based generation of ThinkPads: same layout, same large buttonless trackpad, same numpad for 15-inchers -- see figures with E455 (grey) and E440 (black), E555 (grey) and E540 (black)
    3. Looks like OneLink ditches out the classic docking port (still have to check T-series to be 100% sure about that)

    lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-e455-keyboard-3[3].jpg
    lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-e440-black-keyboard-7[1].jpg
    lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-e555-keyboard-3[1].jpg
    lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-e540-black-keyboard-7[1].jpg
     
    Bloody Nokia Adept, Oct 19, 2014
    #95
  46. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

    Reputations:
    897
    Messages:
    1,936
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    101
    These are low-end systems. They are not meant for Enterprise or ThinkPad Loyalists...

    My thoughts on this:
    1. I don´t think Lenovo will go back on their decision to include numberpads on 15" systems. They rather have a non-centered keyboard than all the wasted space beside the keyboard.
    2. Lenovos general redesign won´t be reverted (new color etc.). They will revert back to the X1 Carbon UltraNav setup though (on T/W/X), since the negative feedback. This is confirmed, and the Helix 2 with dedicated TrackPoint-buttons is already announced. Lower end systems (E / S / Yoga = former Edge branded) might stay with the All-in-One ClickPad
    3. OneLink won´t replace the classic dock-port. It remains on E/Yoga/X1 Carbon, T/W/X/L will stay with the normal mechanical dock for this generation.

    These are my thoughts on that. One thing that might carry over from E455/E555 to T/W/X however: The new position of Lenovo Logo on the lid and new color for the logo (simply black).

    Also, Lenovo might go back to the old way to swap keyboards, if you look at the E455/E55 and Yoga 14 HMMs.
     
    ibmthink, Oct 19, 2014
    #96
    phamhlam likes this.
  47. Faruk

    Faruk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    36
    Messages:
    416
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Any information on whether or not they're going to continue with the split internal/external battery? Not a deal breaker but I was never really into that idea.

    I really want to see the new X250 and T450s along with their specs... I hope they come with 2 actual RAM slots this time. I'm also interested in the X1 Carbon but chances are that will have soldered RAM, which is a deal breaker for me.
     
    Faruk, Oct 19, 2014
    #97
  48. najaz

    najaz Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    All the new models are attracting...
     
    najaz, Oct 19, 2014
    #98
  49. Bluesfella

    Bluesfella Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    13
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    16
    One RAM slot would be enough with Broadwell, as it supports SO-DIMMs up to 16GB each.

    Would it also be a deal-breaker for you if you could get it pre-configured with a ton of RAM, like 32Gig?
     
    Bluesfella, Oct 23, 2014
    #99
  50. Faruk

    Faruk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    36
    Messages:
    416
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    But 1 slot doesn't give you dual channel memory, which gives a massive boost to the iGPU (30-40%) which is nice for casual gaming.

    I bought my X201 with 2gb, upgraded to 4gb by adding an extra stick, and then to 8gb when I needed the extra memory. It would have probably cost hundreds of dollars to configure it with 8gb at the beginning, and I wouldn't even have the spares left over to transfer into an older laptop.

    So soldered memory is a deal breaker. Single memory slot I could settle for if I was desperate and had no other reasonable option. Modularity is one of the key features of a business laptop. Otherwise why are we buying Thinkpads when we could be buying Asus or Apple or Ideapad even?
     
    Faruk, Oct 23, 2014
    #100
← Previous pageNext page →