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    New Y460 and Y560 Ideapads

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Rustican, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. AboutThreeFitty

    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Most games run great on the y460 and you should get 4 1/2 hours out of it. ATI IMO are better for gaming and I've had no problems with it. Nvidia is great for support and driver updates, where ATI lacks. Assuming you live in the USA, sub $850 before tax is a great deal for it.
     
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    Sufferer Newbie

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    I bought a Lenovo Y460 lat year...
    Only 3 months later the CD Rom stopped working... I got it replaced at the authorized service center under warranty... but in doing so... they screwed up the display... initially there was some disturbance in the display but withing another month the display was completely gone... this time again I took it to the service center... the machine was with them for 3 more months and couldn't be repaired.. now they say it is out of warrantyand they cannot repair it because the model is obsolete and the part is not available.... :O...

    just a pathetic unreliable brand and sick aftersales...
    Do not ever buy a LENOVO... and do not expect anything from service centers...
     
  3. jotaro12

    jotaro12 Newbie

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    Lenovo Y460 released on early 2010 around Jan-Feb so idk what you said about out of warranty but you're not on a Y460 for sure.
     
  4. gugarci

    gugarci Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry to hear about problem but do you think you are going to get better service from Dell or HP. If anything lenovo has a reputation for better service. But If you are looking for the best service buy your laptop from one our resellers on this forum like Powernotebook,com or Xotic. That's why I'm considering a Sager 8760 or an 8690. If it wasn't for the noise I would of bought an 8690 already. That's why I'm looking at other brands.
     
  5. AboutThreeFitty

    AboutThreeFitty ~350

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    Unless you have a time machine, you have a y450 and not the y460. They have been out for just over 3 months.
     
  6. VEYRON92

    VEYRON92 Notebook Enthusiast

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    anyone still has heat issue regarding the y460 model?the heat issue seems dissappear from chat thread already...
     
  7. Kosmos

    Kosmos Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can game for around five hours straight without ever noticing the heat. The laptop does get warm for sure, but not to the point where it actually disturbs for me. Whereas in my last laptop my wrist would start to get uncomfortable resting on the keyboard (hp). I just pulled a marathon session last weekend around, the heat level did not really strike my notice or disturb me.
     
  8. alucasa

    alucasa Notebook Evangelist

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    It feels weird to have spend one grand to be tortured mentally. lol
    I don't think I wanna go through this again, so my Y460 purchase will likely be my last order from Lenovo.
     
  9. seanguynj

    seanguynj Notebook Guru

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    my y560 is arriving today! (ordered on 6/2/10)

    it took 13 days total? for it to get to me, so a little less than 2 weeks. it wasn't too bad! :)
     
  10. VEYRON92

    VEYRON92 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thx for the reply..so what type of games u play?have u uninstalled all the bloatware?is it the bloatware that are causing the heat?and do u use cooling pad when gaming?
     
  11. youknowjack8

    youknowjack8 Notebook Guru

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    I agree, the slidenav is useless. i have the program uninstalled, would be great if you can change it. We'll have to look into the hack/tweak er community for this help.
     
  12. alucasa

    alucasa Notebook Evangelist

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    Holy moly, I finally got a working tracking number !!!

    Now, I can sleep with ease at night. Although UPS tracking page does not say ETA, I feel a lot better now because I know now what is going on with my package.
     
  13. Kosmos

    Kosmos Notebook Enthusiast

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    Post 1062 by Supremekai is pretty useful in understanding the packaged bloatware for the Y460.

    If you are curious about what I did:-

    Splitscreen - Win aero snap covers what I need so this was redundant for me [I removed it]

    SlideNav- the touch sensitive slider above the keyboard is useless with out this. [I kept it]

    OneKey theatre- for changing from normal to cinema mode and inteligent mode with the movie(one that looks like a film projector) touch sensitive button. [I kept it]

    OneKey Recovery - to restore to factory default, image your drive, etc. use the small button with the arrow. [I kept it]

    Lenovo Share direct - if your other laptop/computer has this you can share files with this. [I kept it even though it is probably unnecessary]

    Lenovo ReadyComm - network connection software. try it, if you don't think it's useful uninstall it. [I kept it even though it is probably unnecessary

    Veriface- using the webcam to log you in. It is slow. Neat to show off to a friend. [I kept it. To be honest regular password entry is quicker but it entertains me]

    Youcam- webcam software to take pics, videos. And it can also record your desktop. [I kept it, it's there when i need it]

    Power2Go- dvd/cd burner software. If you have another burning software uninstall it. [I kept it]

    Energy Management- self explainatory, also used for the battery touch sensitive button. And i believe some part of this software is needed for the other touch sensitive buttons. [I kept it]

    Mcafee Anti-virus- [I uninstalled it, interfered with some of my network functions]

    Most of the ones mentioned above actually serve some functions, but there are a few more pieces of software that are just plain advertising junk that I removed right away. I no longer remember the names but I believe it was Ideapad central, idea notes and something else possibly oovoo. These are obvious since they like to pop up when you start the computer.

    Oh and btw I do not use a cooling pad, although I suppose I should. I have played Starcraft 2, League of Legends and torchlight among others on my lappie.
     
  14. alucasa

    alucasa Notebook Evangelist

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    Can I download those software from Lenovo website?

    I ask that because, whenever I get a new laptop, I simply format HDD and install fresh windows.
    Some of software you mentioned seem useful.


     
  15. seawolfxix

    seawolfxix Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anybody run the PassMark Performance Test on their laptop? My Y460 scored as follows:

    PassMark Rating - 1165.0
    CPU Mark - 2752.4
    2D Graphics Mark - 322.3
    3D Graphics Mark - 693.8
    Memory Mark - 964.8
    Disk Mark - 484.7
    CD Mark - 140.1
     
  16. AboutThreeFitty

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    Yes. Here: Lenovo Ideapad Support & downloads - Drivers & Downloads

    There is also a partition in your drive that contains all of these.(Just copy them, store them, then paste them on the new Windows.)
     
  17. Kosmos

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    Looks like ThreeFifty answered that question for you Alucasa ^_^. One note of caution, please be careful about how you format your hard drive. This has been known to completely disable onekey recovery.
     
  18. alucasa

    alucasa Notebook Evangelist

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    Which I could care less. :rolleyes:

    And I don't want onekey recovery, or any recovery for that matter. I am going to stick a 128gb SSD in there.
     
  19. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    so just to verify this should work for the 5730? I'll try it tonight to confirm. I still haven't fixed my stuttering video problem. I'm streaming from icefilms.info to watch some TV and movies (divX player) and I get a noticeable stutter that seems to be consistent regardless of whether i'm using the intel or the dedicated, and it also happens on both my monitor and the tv i've hooked it up to via hdmi. i've meddled with about a million settings and can't fix it thus far. i will report after i try this tool.
     
  20. AboutThreeFitty

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    No clue. It worked with the 5650 fine and it's for 5870 so I don't see why the 5730 wouldn't work. When you do, use GPU-Z to check your speeds to see if it really worked.
     
  21. seanguynj

    seanguynj Notebook Guru

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    So I received my y560 today.

    Not too happy about the screen quality... very grainy and looks cheap. almost like the ones found on the lower end acer laptops.

    there is flex in the keyboard, although it's not too bad (my dell studio 15's keyboard is a lot better though). it does feel good typing on it.

    speakers are decent for a laptop.

    other than that, only time will tell i guess.

    time to give the videocard a go!
     
  22. seawolfxix

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    I'd say the speakers are pretty damn good for a laptop...
     
  23. raydabruce

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    I play EVERYTHING with VLC. Never a stutter. No codecs needed (they're all included). And it's free. I've yet to find an audio or video format that it can't play.
     
  24. raydabruce

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    I used Acronis TrueImage 2010 to clone the original Seagate drive to a 500GB Western Digital. The WD worked just fine after I put it in the laptop but the OneKey did NOT work. The recovery partition was there, but OneKey could not access it. The "cloning" was not perfect. The cloned recovery partition was just a hair smaller than the original. There must be a difference in the drive electronics between the two brands... or the laptop's controller uses proprietary drive geometry.

    I've never seen this before. I've cloned other new laptop's hard drives and the results were perfect with recovery accessible on the new drive. So, all you folks really should take the time to create the Recovery DVDs (it only took two of them for my Y560).
     
  25. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is all I get when I try to run the downloaded program:

    "Error: Cannot obtain appropriate HWService instance"

    ideas? lol
     
  26. the_prairie_prophet

    the_prairie_prophet Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is it a player that works for streams as well? I was of the understanding I can only use DivX on Icefilms.
     
  27. raydabruce

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    I'm pretty sure it does handle streams but I've never used it for that. I'm sure the VideoLan website has all that info for you.

    During the install you have the option to install a plug-in for Mozilla (Firefox). But I'm not familiar with Icefilms -- they may require you to use that player. But VLC can play DivX, Xvid, Matroska, h.264 (MP4), anything as far as file formats... even OGG and other lossless audio as well as any video format.
     
  28. the_prairie_prophet

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    well, I don't think it will work after some conversation with my roommate, I'm pretty sure the problem is in my settings somewhere. Just gotta keep tinkering i guess. I'm going to try a dl'd video file in WMP and see if it does the same thing. If it does, the player isn't the problem.
     
  29. raydabruce

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    I never use WMP for anything. To me, it's the worst media player there is. It'll screw up your MP3 music files among other things. But, good luck. I'd be surprised if the problem is with your hardware unless you changed some settings somewhere. I'm assuming you're sure it's not the internet connection? Some ISPs will throttle streaming media.
     
  30. alucasa

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    Got an ETA of tomorrow from UPS !

    But I can't be home tomorrow, so I will probably get it on this Friday. If I do get it by this week, that makes the whole purchase complete in 2 weeks which is not bad at all, but I am quite displeased with Lenovo's order status page.
     
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    I saw Lenovo driver website updated Y460 BIO to v57 (27CN57WW64.exe)
    I download it and try to install it on Win7 64bit with "Run as Admin" and
    it doesn't flash the BIO. Does anyone try to upgrade BIO to v57 with
    success ? Thanks!
     
  33. the_prairie_prophet

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    yeah i've checked connection, it's fine, it's not a connection type stutter. my roommate has a much less powerful video card than what's in here and never has issues, (nor do i on my desktop) it's gotta be settings or codecs somewhere, something internal anyways. getting it on youtube as well, i'll keep tinkering.
     
  34. lee_what2004

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    You need to extract the .exe and manual update, just leave it and it will restart by its own...
     
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    y560d just got press released, available next month

    base price is $1200. Comes with 3D screen and rapiddrive.
     
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    No thanks on the lid design and rapid drive.
     
  39. raydabruce

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    I have the same problem as Raytang. "Extract the .exe" ??? It IS an .exe. I had no problem with a previous BIOS update but this one simply will not run. (Same one for the Y560, ver. 57). I tried running it in safe mode and from the command prompt too. No luck. Windows gives an "AppCrash" message.

    My 560 came with BIOS ver 51 which I had no problem updating to ver. 53. But I can't get ver. 57 to work. Lenovo is completely unresponsive on this issue.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Other users I known also facing the same problem when trying to run it directly under 64-bit, they manage to flash it by using previous method I mentioned...
    I mean it like this...
    [​IMG]
    Just run it and let it do the thing, it will kinda hang and it will restart...
     
  41. Combo9

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    Lenovo Y560, although most of what applies for the Asus n61 applies for the Y560 too (mostly same specs: i7 720, hd 5730, etc.)

    Anyone manage to break 9k in 3d mark 06? I wonder if the new BIOS update will help scrape the few extra points.
     
  42. raydabruce

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    @lee_what2004:
    Wow, thanks! That worked! I didn't know I could extract the files with WinRar and then run the program. Good information. You just got a rep point from me. Why can't Lenovo tell us this is a self-extracting archive so we can figure this out for ourselves. Oh no, that makes too much sense.

    The first time I updated the BIOS (to ver. 53) I didn't have Winrar installed. I bet that's the problem. Windows crashes because Winrar is interfering with the default Windows extraction and running of the archived files.
     
  43. BazCZ

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    Could any owner of Y560 make a short detailed video of Y560's display problems? Certainly it would be very useful for all potential buyers. Thanks a lot ;)
     
  44. alucasa

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    My neighbor received the shipment for me.
    I can get back home only after midnight though. I am itching to see my Y460.

    Ordered @ 6th and received @ 17th of the same month.

    Also a 128gb SSD is on its way. ETA tomorrow.
     
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    That's my biggest concerned right now. Other than that this laptop fits my currents needs.
     
  46. raydabruce

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    I'd be glad to make the video for you if I had any display problems. Mine works just fine. No complaints.

    I think the Y560 owners having the display problems have the switchable graphics. Mine does not. I'm always on the ATI card.
     
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    Hey guys, I was planning on ordering the IdeaPad Y560 within the next few days since the Father's Day sale is making the Core i7, 8GB RAM version only 1,100 USD. However, I also recently heard they were updating the Y560 with the Y560d. Would it be better to wait for that or just get it now (it seems like getting it now is a good deal)? Are the July 4th sales usually better than the Father's Day sale that is going on right now?

    I do not plan on using the 3D features of the Y560d, so that is another consideration, but if the Y560d is going to have the same specs for the same price, than I may just delay getting the Y560 deal right now for the RapidDrive and the 3D features coming with the Y560d if the price is going to end up the same as the Y560 is currently going for. I just need a laptop before school starts up in mid-August.
     
  48. raydabruce

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    Personally, I wouldn't give a dime extra for the 3D and "RapidDrive". They're just gimmicks. Getting the 8 gigs of RAM would be nice though.
     
  49. alucasa

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    A 500gb Seagate Momentus XT will do the job RapidDrive can do. And 3D is hit or miss for people.

    Overall, Y560d is not a significant upgrade, so you shouldn't wait for it.
     
  50. AboutThreeFitty

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    RapidDrive has turned into a complete mess. All it has done is teased and upset people with borderline false advertising. After seeing the one post about it being so expensive, it's just not worth it. That Seagate should be great, or a traditional SSD.

    By the way alucasa, what SSD did you get?
     
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