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    No 4gb ram option for X200? (cept with Vista Business 64)

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by bluepojo, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. bluepojo

    bluepojo Notebook Guru

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    Why is it that the only way to get 4gb of ram on the X200 is when you select Vista Business 64?

    I intend to install Linux anyway, so I'd rather not pay too much for my Vista license... but I'd like 4gb of ram too.

    Thoughts?

    Do I have to call to get this ordered?
     
  2. zephyrus17

    zephyrus17 Notebook Deity

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    Most of the people here will say, buy the cheapest RAM option available, and then go buy the RAM yourself. It'll be 50% cheaper. Installation is easy.
     
  3. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Because 32-bit Windows will only able to use 3.0 to 3.5 GB.

    Anyway, it's cheaper to get your own RAM afterward.
     
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    32 bits won't be able to utilize full 4GB RAM.
     
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    zephyrus17 Notebook Deity

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    Like stewie said. Only 64bit systems will be able to extract the full power of 4Gb of RAM. And in the current computing world, 2Gb is plenty enough.

    So, I suggest buying a laptop with a minimum RAM, and getting any Vista that's not Home Basic. Then buy 3rd party RAM yourself.
     
  6. bluepojo

    bluepojo Notebook Guru

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    Ok, good call. Thanks for the tip about ram.

    I intended to install Ubuntu and Arch Linux (a stripped down Arch system for fast boots when I only need to check email or something... can get boot time down under 30 seconds on a good system. :) ) 64bit versions.

    I hear you can get the 64bit version of Vista for a nominal cost if you already have a 32bit license. Is this true?

    I suppose I'll get home premium or business, then. Thoughts on that? This is primarily a mobile development machine, as I'm a software engineer.

    Edit: Are there any other components that are worthwhile upgrading after the fact like the ram?

    Edit2: I'm not so sure where to find ram that's cheaper. Newegg has 2x2gb ram for 180... but it costs 183 to upgrade to 4gb on Lenovo's site. I suppose I could sell the 1gb one that comes with it to recoup some money, but it doesn't seem to be a remarkable savings.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    It uses DDR3 which is incredibly expensive. So it is actually not cheaper to buy it yourself at the moment. Spend the extra $70 with lenovo.
     
  8. whtvr

    whtvr Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    It is technically possible to use 4gb of RAM on a 32bit system. Linux with PAE (Physical Address Extension) and also Windows 2003 Server is capable of doing so (Enterprise and Datacenter editions, as far as I recall).

    Also, from what I see in my local eshop DDR3 is not THAT expensive - 52 EUR for 1GB and 90 EUR for 2GB (both Kingston 1066MHz non-EEC). It's more than DDRII (maybe even twice as much) but I wouldn't call it "terribly" expensive.

    Just my two cents.
     
  9. boomhower

    boomhower Notebook Evangelist

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    Hope this helps.