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    Nvidia NVS 3100m and starcraft 2

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by wes215, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. wes215

    wes215 Newbie

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    Was wondering if anyone of you guys out there have tried playing the starcraft 2 beta on the T410/T510. Is is possible to run it on at least medium settings without any lag?
     
  2. yuzou

    yuzou Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have the same question. But I ordered a W510. Is there anyone who have already tried SC2 with T or W series?
     
  3. ooxxoo

    ooxxoo Notebook Evangelist

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    I play it on my 14" T61p and run it on medium/low settings (medium settings with low shaders/shadows) at 1400x1050 at 40-80fps depending on what's going on on the screen.

    I get ~20fps at medium shader (which is unplayable for me).

    You can use that as a base comparison :)

    So most likely yes.
     
  4. wes215

    wes215 Newbie

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    Thanks! ooxxoo. So the graphics card for the T61p is NVIDIA Quadro FX 57M, it seems to be better than the NVS 3100m according to notebookcheck.net. So i guess we can't we can't expect to run it much better than the T61p then?
     
  5. ooxxoo

    ooxxoo Notebook Evangelist

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    The one on notebookcheck is the 'real' one. The 570M in my 14" is a gimped version (64bit bus vs 128bit etc.). I can't remember how much worse it is but I believe the difference between the 'real' one (15.4" T61p) and mine is pretty significant.

    I would guess it would run it at least as well as mine.
     
  6. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    For those wondering, you can play SC2 on x4500 intel graphics on the lowest settings just fine. Still looks pretty good (compared to original SC :p).
     
  7. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    Wow, really? 1280x800?
     
  8. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ya. Although I don't have it running native usually since it is on my external display. But just letting people know in a pitch the last gen intel integrated works! My roommate tested an even older integrated platform but that was laggy. Mine is at least playable.
     
  9. Aiwi

    Aiwi Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm running at a good fps with "Shader" set to "Low" on my T400 at 1440x900 and ATI Mobility Radeon 3470. The other settings are medium/high.
    Setting Shader to Medium is really quite laggy (20-25fps)
     
  10. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    SC2 isn't so private now so you guys can certainly test as well :p.
     
  11. vutek

    vutek Notebook Guru

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    how do you guys test the FPS during gameplay?

    i just bought the laptop below and not sure if i should keep or return it.....can it play on high or ultra?
     
  12. k2001

    k2001 Notebook Deity

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    With the i5 intergrated graphic I hope I could at least play SC2 at native on medium.
     
  13. Injek

    Injek Notebook Consultant

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    It will run. But I don't think that the framerate will be comfortable.
    The FX570m in the T61 is better than the NVS 3100m.

    I'm not too sure anyway, someone should try it out :)
     
  14. red grenadine

    red grenadine Notebook Geek

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    wait, so SC2 can be played on the t410s with integrated graphics? Has anyone done this? If that's the case I can quit waiting for the discrete version as this is the only game i am interested in

    thanks
     
  15. zenit

    zenit Notebook Evangelist

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    there is a much bigger problem with games on T410s. Considering it is the same screen as on t400s, i can attest that games look absolutely terrible with 95:1 contrast.
     
  16. k2001

    k2001 Notebook Deity

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp9VMmwVEkY
    Here is starcraft 2 on gma950, considering that it is a couple generation old, we will assume that starcraft 2 could easily be play on the t410s
     
  17. red grenadine

    red grenadine Notebook Geek

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    So the T410 would be better than the T410s for gaming simply due to the screen? Is the contrast really that bad?

    I have a seperate widescreen monitor that I use while docking the laptop so I guess that the screen doesn't really matter as I'd only be playing games while docked anyway.
     
  18. mamo

    mamo Newbie

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    Hi,

    I just tested the SC2 beta (in offline mode) on the Thinkpad T510 (HD+ screen, 1600x900) with i5-520M and the discrete Quadro card using the standard drivers supplied by Lenovo.
    SC2 automatically adjusts most of the settings to medium and turns off some details like reflections. I used the native resolution of 1600x900.
    I played one round against one AI controlled opponent and it worked just fine. I got around 40-42 fps while building my base and the framerate dropped to around 35 fps when some action was going on. No lag noticeable.
    If I set "Shaders" to low I got around 100 fps, but I must admit it looks almost like SC1 then ;)
    To sum it up, while the Quadro 3100m is pretty weak, SC2 is definitely playable on the card. Maybe the game won't run as smoothly when more and bigger armies are involved, but you can still play around with the settings, lower the resolution or install another driver.
     
  19. Injek

    Injek Notebook Consultant

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    That's good to know!
    It would be so nice if you could treat us with a video as well, please? :)
     
  20. rippeer

    rippeer Notebook Evangelist

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    This makes me curios if the descete nvidia card is really worth +$100-200 or the intergrated for light gaming?
     
  21. red grenadine

    red grenadine Notebook Geek

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    agreed. i wonder if anyone can playing SC2 on their t410 or t410s integrated and give us their thoughts.
     
  22. badtzwang

    badtzwang Notebook Consultant

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    From what I've read, its POSSIBLE to run SC2 on integrated graphics, but you have to have settings on Low all across the board. However, during any sort of battle, the game becomes unplayable.

    I'd still say that its necessary to have a discrete card for SC2. One that has 128 mb of VRAM at the least.
     
  23. wes215

    wes215 Newbie

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    I tried to record a video using fraps but the fps went down during recording so it wasn't very representative. You can see in wes215's video what it looks like using medium shaders. I played a longer round of SC2 in the meantime (2on2) and the fps went down to ~25 during larger battles. Still well playable in my opinion but not great. Might need some driver or settings tuning.
     
  25. rippeer

    rippeer Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think I would mind playing the game at low to save $100-200 and have a longer lasting battery life, and sligthtly cooler and quiter laptop
     
  26. badtzwang

    badtzwang Notebook Consultant

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    Its good to hear that the 3100m can run SC2 reasonably well.

    In the case that we would want to optimize the NVS 3100m for SC2, would it be as simple as downloading the Geforce GT 310m drivers? I'm not sure how this kind of thing works, so any insight is appreciated.
     
  27. jli17

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    I've was a pretty big sc:bw fan. Played on iccup and stuff and was kinda intense.

    I was afraid that sc2 would not run on my t410 integrated, but it runs fine. I just turn up the things that are more processor intensive. I turn down the things that are more gpu intensive. game runs perfectly fine.

    i play a lot of 2v2 with friends with large battles and there is no noticable lag. and i'm glad sc2 has turned out to be a fun game.
     
  28. badtzwang

    badtzwang Notebook Consultant

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    Could you take a screenshot of your SC2 graphical settings? Or if its easier, could you let us know what you set everything?
     
  29. jli17

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    I'm not very experienced with changing graphics settings (since the only game I play on the computer is starcraft haha)

    I just followed the descriptions for each setting. Some said the setting depended more on graphics card and some more on processor.

    I think I just turned on reflections, physics high, effects high, and movies high. Everything else was low or whatever was recommended for me.

    I've been playing sc:bw the past 10 years, so this still looks a lot better to me. I can imagine it might look like crap to anyone who enjoys a good visual experience =)
     
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    anyone able to shed further insight on this?
     
  31. partyhard

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    I'm bumping this to see if more people with the nvs3100m tried the game out. I'm interesting in knowing what the best settings would be for it.
     
  32. oxlmoos

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    I don't want to turn into the guy who repeatedly points to the same two threads, but these may be tangentially relevant to the discussion:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/483635-thinkpad-t410s-open-questions-thread.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/493336-t410s-impressions-gpu-woes.html

    To distill my experiences, the T410s did a decent job with Civ IV using the integrated graphics. Switching to the discrete graphics seemed to cause heat issues that a number of other folks have also reported. I hope that SC2 running well with integrated graphics portends good things for Civ V doing the same when it's released in a few months.