Off-centered screen.

Hey guys.
I wonder if I buy T61p 14.1inch with 3945ABG then, screen will be symmetric?
For me 4965AGN is not so important but, symmetric screen is really important.
So, anyone know the answer? It is really ugly non symmetric.

Thank you.

 

The effect on human is only psychological; the more you place your attention and fixation to it, the more disturbed you will be.

As you focus your attention to the content in the screen, you will forget about the off-center issue. As time goes by, your mind gradually adjusts to it.

No worries. So many of us have overcome it; so will you.

Be happy.

 

what? that was completely from left field bro.

 

We can choose to overcome such distraction if we want to.

If you elect to allow the problem to be above you, what can I say ?

 

Personally, I am bothered by notebooks whose border on the top of the screen is wider than the border on the sides.

But I too will learn to live with this.

 

So, there is no choice?
Only I have to do is overcome non symmetric?
Actually I can overcome non symmetric, no problem on working with non symmetric screen.
However, still I want cool appearance. For me non symmetric screen is ugly.

 

Yeah I for one wouldn never purchase a system that wasn't symmetrical.

 

I thought I would be more bothered by this, but to tell you the truth I've never once noticed it in daily use of the laptop, and neither has anyone else who's used it. I guess there are enough other glaring defects to keep my attention on...

 

This "issue" has never been an issue for me. If I was hung on up this, I'd have a tape measure, protractor, and a micrometer out to make sure my desktop LCD was perfectly aligned on my desk and tape stripes on my floor to make sure I had my chair lined up perfectly. Come on folks, your head/eyes focus on where the image is, just like at the movie theatre -- you can't always get the seat right in the middle.

For what it's worth, the screen on my X61t has slightly more bezel on the left than the right, probably about a millimeter. Let the boycotts begin.

 

Never bothered me at all, dont even notice or think about it when I use the laptop. If you want something pretty, get an over priced vaio or something - at least you will be able to sleep at night then!

 

Has anyone ever been asked by other people why the screen is off center. What's your answer?

For me is tough to tell people that is just because of the antenna. I always pride on the design of my ThinkPad and durability and all the best engineering; but it seems that I'm the dumb one now because Lenovo kind of screwed up on this one.

It's hard for me to justify why such a expensive laptop has such a flaw.

 

Why do you care what other people think?

 

Well just because I paid $700 more than they did for a laptop with a design flaw.

Why do you cut your hair (if you do), because you want to look good. For who? Well for other people. Looks are important in our society whether people want to acknowledge it or not.

 

I know that the assymetry exists..but it does not bother me at all...i never even notice it unless i am reminded of it by threads like this...

if you're not going to buy a thinkpad because of this...i believe you have other issues in your life that need resolving first

 

"Well just because I paid $700 more than they did for a laptop with a design flaw."

No you didn't. It's exactly designed that way for many reasons. You'll noticed that the hinges are also not the same width. Why is that way? There are several reasons. The left side of the computer is heavier than the right. It's weight is not symetrical. The assymetry is a design feature. Beyond that, it's the perfect place to put place complex antennae systems. It's not a design flaw, it's a feature.

 

Curious, do you think they overlooked this? I haven't taken my screen apart, but I'm certain that it was designed this way for a reason. I seriously doubt someone just forgot to measure the CAD drawings to make sure the bezel was the same width on each side.

 

This is one of the reasons you should buy a Macbook if you're concerned with outward appearances and trying to impress others.

We'll stick with a Thinkpad, while you worry about trivialities and drive yourself insane over nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixbzFjv_cU&feature=related

 

I know they probably gave some thought to this and couldn't find a better solution for the antennas, but does that mean it was the right thing to do?

Is it much to ask? I don't think so; and I bet you they will find a better solution for ThinkPads down the road.

I do not want a Mac looking ThinkPad by any means. I just want an IBM ThinkPad... they had the best of both worlds but now Lenovo is here messing things up little by little. We shall see.

 

In the grand scheme of things, not being perfectly even isn't that big a deal

 

Darn it, my keyboard isn't symmetrical. There's no "enter" key on the left side.

 

it's not the machine that annoys you. it's your pickiness and attentive brain that really annoy you! you work on the entire screen, not just the edges of the screen. whoever has problem with the off-center screen should consider another notebook instead. that's the only solution to the issue.

 

It doesn't bother me one bit. I agree with if your picky over appearance then you would probably better off with a macbook or some other fruity laptop.

As for the reason its off centered, I believe it has to do with the antenna and the LCD rollcage. They probably couldn't fit both behind the LCD screen.

 

the same.. no problmes with off center...
+ it is easier for me to adjust display at a correct angle with left hand..

 

I love my IBM Thinkpad. The screen been off centered doesnt bother me. It actually took me about a week to notice. I personally think only IBM make notebooks that look professional and not like a toy.

 

i didnt even know about that until i read this forum... it is placed off center... however the machine's performance and durability overshadow those minor problems.. i dont think it matters at all.. just don't stare at the sides too often or else you'll go crazy lol

 

It doesn't bother me one bit either, in fact the only time I notice it is when I read about it on here!!!

 

my first time playing with the R61 at circuitcity store, i didn't even notice that the screen is off-center. and then i received my T61, i didn't even noticed the issue despite the fact that i know it's off-centered. have you guys noticed there are striped bars along the left vertical side and the upper horizontal side? i believe Thinkpad design team did a great job by applying those stripes to make it looks like it's not off-centered (if you don't pay attention).

 

Yeah I also agree that the off centered screen is not noticeable. After the first day I haven't even noticed it.
Tim

 

Goodness,

If you are going to complain about the off centered screen, how about the hinges having different widths and for that matter, the clear plate is not centered and my vista and centrino decals are also off center.

 

hehe Renee..we're not complaining here. we're just exchanging opinions. i think my brain is off-centered now LOL!

 

Same here. The screen doesn't bother me at all for work or play or anything for that matter other than the fact that it looks like Lenovo screwed up even if they didn't and there's not a good excuse for it as far as I know.

Another point would be to ask what type of screen you have. If you have a widescreen and didn't notice the off center screen then I guess you are not as picky as me. The problem is not really noticeable on the standard 4:3 laptops though.

Another thing to note is that I'm not alone at this. If you go to the link below and look at the poll then add option 1 and option 2 (which is where I fall) you will see that there is quite a lot of us bothered at least a bit by this issue.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=125974

And that’s my opinion.

 

The screen is the way it is. I'd prefer it be symmetrical as well, but aethetics weren't the reason I bought the notebook.

If you want a symetrical screen look at some other notebooks. The HP 8510p/w is comparable.

 

I've never noticed it personally, whenever someone notices and is being nasty i just go "oh hey youve got a macbook, hey can you do me a favor hand me your optical drive, oh wait its a macbook". honestly its not a big deal, and the engineering thing, the fact that its off center is engineering and ballsy, "well we could make the whole thing 1/4" wider or just make the screen off center a little" thats engineering and innovation and putting the customer first.

 

It never bothers me as I focus on what is on the screen not what is around it.

 

Seriously, who are these people who are being 'nasty' because of the screen and why are you such a jerk to someone just because they use a Macbook and can't remove the optical drive?

Do people really walk around and fawn over each other's laptops all day? Where does this happen?...I want to avoid that place.

 

i literally had someone at school come up to me, i was minding my own business quietly reading slashdot when this guy walked behind me, paused then came and sat in the chair next to me, and he started going off on pc's and how they are "utter garbage" and "prone to viruses" he also commented on how could anyone buy a piece of garbage with a messed up screen. I will admit i go to a school where i would say the vast majority of people are mac users, but i had had enough and i snapped at him i probably shouldve walked away but the guy was an A**hole.

 

I probably am the only one who absolutely loves the off centered screen.
I think it's a very bold step to take for an industrial designer. Not everybody would dare to do such a thing in an area where simetry is supposed to be so important.

 

i'm also an off-centered screen lover. 1 reason: this off-centered thing makes sense on the Thinkpads! he he

 

"he started going off on pc's and how they are "utter garbage" and "prone to viruses" he also commented on how could anyone buy a piece of garbage with a messed up screen. I will admit i go to a school where i would say the vast majority of people are mac users, but i had had enough and i snapped at him i probably shouldve walked away but the guy was an A**hole."

That's a standard critique of MAC and Unix Users. I always ask them who would want to write a virus for an operating system that has two percent of the market. They are pretty quiet after that.

 

Gee, where I live you could get punched out for that.

Its not so much the PC vs Mac thing, but rather the stupidity of walking up to someone and criticizing them for no reason.

Might as well tell someone their car is slow, their girlfriend ugly, and they're stupid. And their notebook screen isn't symmetrical.

 

it's not things that are problems. it's the humans-being that are problems.

 

HOLY CRAP I just notice it on my t61 after reading this post....... lol.... I don't like it but i have had this notebook for 2-3 weeks and never noticed it lol...

If someone ask me y it looks that way i'd just say " dude i get wireless signal a mile way from it the router "

 

All this asymmetrical nonsense would never have slide if IBM was still in charge..

 

I don't see the huge problem with it.

I have a T61, and the off centered screen never had bugged me.

 

I just put in an order for a new R61. I was intending on buying Vostro 1400 but they're build to order options were 3x more than what the R61 was going for...althogether, I paid 330 dollars less for the R61 compared to the Vostro. I didn't notice the off-centered screen but as I looked on my current laptop (HP Pavilion ZE5155) I notice that the left side is 10-20% wider than the right side! I've had this laptop for 5+ years and never noticed!!!

I didn't make it through this thread to find out exactly why the R61 is off-centered so drastically (or I should say noticeably). I'm only guessing that the wires and such are along that side and grouping them together in one place keeps the height of the screen to a minimum (or else the screen would be .1" thicker and then we'd all have something else to complain about)

On a side note, this is a great site.

 

I actually wondered about this very thing a lot. I wondered if it would really bother me like I was forecasting. My questions were answered when I finally got a chance to play around with a Thinkpad at the local Office Depot. I didn't even notice that the screen was off-center. This is an individual thing, but I really don't think it would bother most people.

 

I never noticed it until somebody told me. Having used the computer, it doesn't make a difference.

 

I first read about this on the forums before and i thought i was going to be bothered by it, but I didn't mind at all. In fact, all the thinkpad's screens are off center, just not this much. Use it in the dark, the darkness will center the screen. lol.

 

I read about this on one of the major review sites while I was going through the purchasing process. I doubted it would be a major issue, and I was right. I'm close enough to the machine that I never even notice it. Face it, most of us concentrate on the center of our screens when working; we only look to the outer edges when running a full-screen app, like perhaps a spreadsheet. Even then, I've never had an issue, and I have a hard time why this would bother anyone, unless it's a psychological thing (that is, it bothers them because someone complained about it in a review and they read the review before using the product).

Just my .02, but I think the asymmetrical screen would only bother 1% --the percent who make Type-A personalities seem like Type-B's in comparison.