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    Question While I Wait for My R51E

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Seefree, Oct 13, 2005.

  1. Seefree

    Seefree Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I am having to wait a few weeks after pre-ordering my R51E. Now a pretty common experience it seems for Thinkpads. Especially funny in that I can preorder from a website other than Lenovo's first....
    Anyway, I was hoping someone could allay a fear I have about the R51E's screen for me. I am coming from an A30P with a Flexview UXGA. While people always say LCDs are blurry when not on their native resolution, I have actually always used XGA resolution with no problems.
    This is why I am fine with moving down to an XGA screen. Further, the current tabook lists the R51E's screen as 200 nits, just like the A30P's. This should mean that at XGA the R51E should look as good or better than my A30P, right? I dont really care about viewing angles, but does the Flexview's density make any difference otherwise? Maybe some current R series owners could comment on their screens?
    I am asking because I have a found a very good price on a R50P, which has the same screen as my current A30P. For a variety of reasons I would rather go with the R51E, but will I notice a significant loss in screen quality if I do?
    Thanks!
     
  2. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    No 30 day return policy on other sites. It will probably be blurry if you use a non-native resolution. You could always crank up the DPI if the text is too small.
     
  3. dr_st

    dr_st Notebook Deity

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    Viewing angles aside, Flexview screens are said to be brighter than other screens offered on IBM models. Arguably, the colors are also better reproduced on Flexview.
     
  4. vkyr

    vkyr Notebook Consultant

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    @Seefree

    All those by manufactors printed brightness/luminance values in nits are by no means real/correct to suggest nits values. It's here the same as with the usual marketing blabla about how long the batteries are expected to run, which is also far away from reality.

    So what you can mostly expect is some much dimmer values than those which are advertized.

    For example, a Thinkpad R50 with a 15" IPS FlexView TFT (SXGA+, 1400 x 1050 dots) which is advertized to have ~200 nits, in reality when measured only had as it's best a max values of 156 cd/m2 (nits).

    Another example, thinkpads of the X series are advertized to have 150 nits, but again when independently measured they only have min to max 11...118 cd/m² (nits).


    So don't expect that a R51E will have around 200 nits, this is far away from reality!
     
  5. vk60402

    vk60402 Notebook Guru

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    when I compare my work issued Thinkpad T42 and personal R40 side by side, I find that T42 screen seems to have better brightness and colors are more vivid.

    But, ignorance is a bliss. I would not think my R40 screen was bad until I compared it with a T42 screen.

    I'm afraid to compare it to HP or Dell's screens now.
     
  6. vkyr

    vkyr Notebook Consultant

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    HP usually tends to assemble dimmer TFT panels inside their bussines notebooks, meaning related to the brightness of their display panels, these aren't that bright at all.

    Dell uses and assembles panels from different supplier in their notebook lines (dependent on what is actually available in quantities on the market). Some of their ultrasharp panels offer a good brightness, others don't. - So it always depends what sort of supplier panel is included for which specific notebook model.