Replacing Lenovo x220

I've definitely decided (since a while...) to replace my Lenovo X220 with a more recent and perfoming ultrabook, possibly caractherized from a really good battery life and a above average display quality, looking for in the second hand market.

Such that models like Lenovo X250/X260 and Dell E5440 (and so on), at least in Italy, are too expensive for my thiny budget (around 300 euro) I've recently found an Acer Travelmate P645-S that seems to adhere at my requirements (It is in like optimal conditions, altough without warranty)

These are the specs:

- i5 5300u
- Ram 8 Gb
- M5 256 Gb SSD

What about it ?
Do You believe there are more interesting alternatives to looking for ?

 

It seems to be only slightly better than my x220 and less recent than the travelmate.

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They seemed to think highly of it over on Notebookcheck. Of course you'll have to give up the stick if you get the Acer.

 

I used the stick just for a couple of times.
Completely superficial in my case.

The more interesting aspects to me are display quality, battery life and overall performance (in business tasks).

An alternative from Lenovo could be an Ideapad 520S i5 7th gen. for about 350 euro (Warranty valid up to 2020).

 

try to avoid anything with an s behind the model

it usually denotes the slim version which in the case of an ideapad would not be a good idea.

You may find that your upgrade options are very limited to only a SSD upgrade

Most ideapad nowadays are equiped with only 1 upgradeable ram slot while battery wise - they're no longer modular (but then so are the newer thinkpads)

Also - warranty is bad when dealing with ideapads -just look at the support pages on downloads between the ideapad and the thinkpad

the X220 continues to get bios updates for the latest variants whilst the support pages for ideapads can be likened to Clevo -

Just check the Lenovo Yoga 910-13ikb - (this is the star of the ideapad last year witha RRP that matches the X1C)

The bios was last updated a year ago. meanwhile the model has been removed from the latest lenovo psref catalogue.

 

I'd say try to avoid any IdeaPad. They're nowhere near Thinkpad T, X or even L series - in every aspect.

 

Thanks to both for the reply.

For what concerns the above mentioned travelmate p645-s ?

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I'd say if you're looking for a performance upgrade, perhaps the Acer isn't the best choice. The Lenovo forum seems an unusual place to ask about an Acer.

 

I'm looking for a (budget) upgrade for the Lenovo... that be at a mid-high level of general quality.

I'm so sorry if I mentioned other brands other Lenovo.

And sorry if a further option for the same price could be this one:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9343-Touchscreen-Ultrabook-Review.135817.0.html

 

EDIT: nvm, I cannot substantiate this claim.

 

No other opinions ?

 

I replaced my x220 with a T450s and have heavily used it for 3 years now. Bigger and better screen, runs cooler, better battery life, better speakers and lightweight.

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@amazing-boy there is no laptop that can replace a Thinkpad, in my personal opinion. They are all lacking something - and not only a trackpoint.

 

I supposed that latitude and elitebook had more or less on the same general quality.

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a crappy screen

 

@Mobius 1 I was thinking more along the lines of parts availability, but you've got a valid point. =p

 

get the the DELL 6440

Socketed CPU although the i5 is good enough the option to upgrade to a true quad core is priceless.

there are some with radeon gpu that you should avoid.

also if you spot one that has an express card slot -take it.

Dell has no whitelists (apart from the annoying smart charger and battery) and while the 6440 only came with a 1600x900 TN screen at best - the 30 pin edp cable allows for a direct IPS upgrade.

Note that some of the models may need the cable to be upgraded (minor cost) but this can be pre-empted by acquiring the service tag and checking the BOM from the dell website to reduce the risks.

The ivy bridge series would actually be my choice if only it had suport for mSata SSDs.

for under $350 (if u factor the cost of a new screen) - u get a machine that can support at least 2 Sata 3 ssd and an additional one via the optical caddy although i think the speed is SATA 2 but coming from a lenovo - u'd probably not see the diff as the mSATA for the X220 is also SATA 2,

 

oh and based on cpu benchmarks - the i5 version of the Haswell M performs better than the i5-7200u (purely cpu wise)

 

It performs better... but for want concern tdp ?

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I replaced my X220 with a used Thinkpad Yoga Y260 from ebay for about $500. The Y260 is still in very condition.

 

500 $ is another price threshold

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What about this convertible alternative?
Hp x2 612 g1

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/default.aspx?cc=us&lc=en&oid=7010755

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there is no concern over tdp - the thermal design is sound for the dell 6440
if you're talking about it being more energygy consuming

well that's y it's still outperforms a kabylake i5

 

i don't disagree - the yoga 260 is a well designed thinkpad.

Honestly y are you thinking of upgrading

perf wise u have very little to gain but if its for getting a better shinier toy to play with then yes - just buy one of those cheap ideapads with a nice display and touch screen and super slim - its still gonnabe good enough for everyday use and will be below 500 as well

 

For just 300 euro I've found this very interesting affordable model (300 euro) with residual 9 months of warranty

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-13-Core-i3-7100U-Full-HD-Laptop-Review.213212.0.html


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i'm typing on one as we speak - the i5 version.

The screen is great (although specs suggest its not the best) to me i've got it calibrated well enough.

It's a fantastic laptop for the price

for 300 euros i dont need to list the positives but here's just a few important things to take note of

- only room for 1 SSD in m2 SLOT
- BUT m2 slot is dual functional and supports full 4 lane nvme SSD (personally tested)
- take note that the i3 doesn;t have turbo boost so you will really see a perf diff in the negative manner as it maxes at 2.4ghz vs the turbo boost of a i5 sandy bridge of 3.2ghz - 33% reduction is something you will probably feel - but at least you have a way better gpu so maybe less of an impact?
-there's zero issues - jjust let me know which IPS mon u end up with (it either the BOE or the LG which i have) the LG is supposed to have some flicker issues which they patched via bios but i never had that issue of the flicker so I was kinda upset that the patch (which supposedly reduces the brightness was introduced along with a critical security update) Anyway i recalibrated and i'mhappy to send you the ICC file if you end up needing it.

I'm not sure buddy - the i3 is a dealbreaker for me but i can say if it was the i5 jump on it - its a simple and underrated model. and more importantly just the right size if you like the x220

 

This is no good...


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yeah funny how things are - this model was such a hit there's only the i3 versions left. Given recent 2018 lenovo models have all been plagued by some wierd thermal issues , the 13 g2 wasunscathe.

Lenovo seriously has some issues with forward planning on models though as they've just decided to nolonger have a 3rd gen version of this. However the L380 is supposed to bear the closest resemblance hardware/design wise. but not that cheap though

 

Other alternatives:

Dell 13 5378 (280 euro)
- i3 7100u
- 13.3" 1920x1080 fhd
- ram 4Gb ddr4
- SSD 256 gb

Lenovo Yoga 460 (360 euro)
- i5 6200u
- 14" 1920x1080
- ram 8Gb
- SSD 256Gb

X240 (250 euro)
- i5 4300u 2.49 GHz
- ram 8gb
- SSD 160gb




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none seems to be what you'd like

the dell is also an i3

2 - worse than the tp g2 and more expensive
3 -the worst x series in the generation due to - first laptop using the ulv cpu plus the introduction of the unpopular trackpad that was reversed...

x270 is ok but i hear they're all sold out...

get this instead

dell 7440 - should be below 300 and make sure its the IPS 1080p screen - if you're lucky you may even land a model with the touch screen.

the advantages are - decent screen (ips) and 2 SSD (1 in 2.5" form factor and 1 in msata form ) and design-wise the service back is easy to take off. you dont have to worry about any whitelists too with DELL and msata SSDs are much cheaper to buy now!.
- Screen - design - no whitelist -and 2 ddr slots vs x240 that has 1...

 

Which is the best CPU configuration for performance/energy consumption ratio, on dell e7440 ?

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I'm looking for that... but I'd prefer the E7240, such that it's smaller.

The specs are specular to the bigger brother ?

p.s.: just few minutes ago I've found this not so perfect Dell E7250...
https://www.ebay.it/itm/DELL-LATITU...sh=item3d6c7e69c9:g:fj0AAOSwfHVbSLc0#viTabs_0

 

Another thought might be the E-Series. A brand new E480, without any discounts, is only a bit over $500. It's not a T-Series, but reviews I've read still rate them as pretty good. I'd certainly trust one of them over an Acer system...

 

I also replaced my x220 by the T450s which I was able to get new on ebay for $450. Great machine overall.