SATA III in Y580's Primary HDD Slot?

I have a simple question: is the primary HDD slot in the Y580 SATA III? Could I replace the stock HD, replace it with a SATA III SSD and get their max speed?

 

Yes, it is SATA III.

 

That's showing it as SATA II no? SATA III is 6Gb/s... That's assuming your Samsung 830 is mSata?

If not, have you shifted the 1TB drive somewhere else like the ODD bay?

 

My SSD is Samsung 830, not mSATA which is Samsung PM830, and is located in the main HDD bay. The 1TB drive that came with my Y580 is SATA II and is located in the ODD.

 

Does putting the HDD in the OD bay void the warranty?

 

Most likely. Still, if you are going to send it back to Lenovo, why don't you backup the data from the HDD, swap the HDD back into the HDD bay, place the ODD back in and do a system restore from the recovery media you made? The only issue you may find is the cheap chinese screws used in the ODD mounting bracket that can be stripped rather easily.

 

It voids the warranty only on the hdd/odd. Everything else is fine. And anyways you can just switch it back before shipping it off to lenovo to be fixed.

 

Sorry I thought I might be able ask my question here rather than making a new thread,

For Y580 do you suggest to use mSata and the standard Sata drive comes with the device or replace the standard drive with SSD (256GB)?
7.2K 750GB HDD + msata or SATA3 256GB SSD

Can SSD and mSata be installed on the same port? ( Comparability wise, not simultaneously) Or if I want to use SSD I have to use the HDD bay only? ( I use OD extensively on netbooks )

And I would appreciate to advice what type of SSD drive this laptop supports.

Thanks

 

Use mSATA SSD and SATA HDD and OD since you want/need all three devices.

If you want to just settle for basic mSATA SDD/SATA HDD, get the 32gb mSATA/1TB HDD package from Lenovo.

If you are looking for 60GB+ mSATA to add later in future, buy the Y580 with 7200 RPM HDD and add your mSATA SSD later.

 

Thanks Peteryorkuca,

I wouldn't mind to get a 256GB SSD and replace the stock HDD, But I want to see how much of the performance difference do I get if I fully replace the drive with SSD or if I just add mSATA with current 7.2K 500GB?

By using mSata will I be able to install the windows on it or the system automatically accesses mSata for caching?

And I appreciate is someone advises what types of SSD ( not mSata SSD ) y580 supports?
Is the port for mSATA SataII or SataIII ?

 

You can use SATA 3 SSD. Same for mSATA 3.

If you are looking for boot time, you are looking at 10~20 sec boot time compared to 1min on 5400rpm drive.

However, its not advise to use SSD for cache/internet/temp folders as they continuously writes and overwrites, over and over thus decreasing life expectancy of SSD.

Best to use SSD, mSATA in Y580 case, for boot drive for Windows and redirect all cache/internet/temp files to HDD.

 

Thanks for your advise,

I assume the mSATA sata3 is compatible with all Y580 models. Am I right or only some has that port?


What would be a good quality mSATA 3 SSD between 60-80GB?

If I want to re-install the windows and apps ( by making recover DVDs), do I get the option to install the windows on mSata during the setup? Or if there is a guideline some where I can refer to for this ?Thank you again

The reason I asked the question is due to some articles I was reading about SSD and mSata SSD, comparing the performance and recommending to use SSD drive instead of combination as the performance is quite noticeable.

I still haven't got the laptop yet, but trying to see what is the best combination to order prior to start using it.

 

That is wrong. Windows can use SSD for swap file and it knows when it's SSD. It is recommended to leave swap on SSD because only then you'll get overall performance boost! Especially when SSD isn't too big so other apps won't be there.

 

So you recommend I replace the 7200rpm HDD with SATA3 SSD ?
Or adding a msata and using the 7200rpm reaches the similar performance and stability?

 

That depends on amount of money you're willing to spend.
Using single SSD has few benefits: better performance, lower temps, no noise. But has some drawbacks: higher price, decreasing performance over time (asynchronous memory), lower lifespan (although in normal usage it doesn't matter too much).
If you add mSATA SSD to your HDD you'll get boost, especially when you install OS there. And if it will be big enough (> 64GB) you can put there some most used apps too. So HDD will work as general storage.

 

I was thinking to get a 256GB SATA3 SSD and use the HDD as an external drive.

What concerns me about using mSata with HDD is the added heat produced by mSATA, while using SSD instead of both could be better in that aspect.

 

I was wondering about that too. Theoretically it should be like you said. I have 32GB mSATA SSD installed and I didn't notice temperatures rising...but my SSD is only for swap - I bought it before I discover that Y580 doesn't support Smart Response.

 

You don't have your OS on the mSATA . right? what size mSata fits Y580?( Physical dimension )

I was thinking if I put the OS and few most used apps on mSata and use the HDD for storage. But I read somewhere mSata temp can increase to 70C ( normal range), and there are already heat generating HDD, CPU and GPU plus RAM so it makes me think if getting mSata is wise or should I get 2.5" SSD... Sometimes it is hard to get the right info on forums

 

No I don't. I wanted to make cache but then I discovered that it can't be done. If I hadn't install OS already I would make Rapid Drive.
I don't know exact dimensions and I can't check them right now. Maybe pics at the bottom of this post will help you somehow.

I can't help you here too much. All I can tell you is that if I had enough money I would buy Samsung 830 >=256GB to replace HDD, which I would replace optical. Then I would put external dock for removed optical or something like this.
And if I had even more money I would just go for Samsung 830 >500GB. Although I think >320GB would be enough for me.

 

Or this: USB 3.0 External Enclosure for Optical Drive (12.7 mm SATA) [slimSATA-USB-C16] - $26.95 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

 

Putting Windows swap file is debatable on SSD.

However, you DO NOT want to turn on or put internet temp files on SSD. Everyone turns it off.

Gain from swap/cache is min running SSD.

 

Microsoft says otherwise. I've seen tests saying otherwise.

Maybe, just maybe internet temp could be placed elsewhere.

Tests says otherwise. Especially when SSD is used as cache.

BTW Majority isn't always right.

 

who uses swap anymore? just disable your swap and throw in 16GB of ram.

i seriously doubt you can run through 16GB of ram doing regular daily things (with the exception of VMs)