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    Screen on the x200 tablet

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by atlguy, Oct 30, 2009.

  1. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    If you want a piece of glass over your LCD, sure. It really doesn't affect your productivity or performance, unless you are doing a lot of photo and video work. Then again, if you are doing photo and video work, why are you using a tablet?

    Tablets are best as writing tools. Used when you are standing, inking, or when the flipped laptop screen is inappropriate for the situation.

    Plus, Tablets have better viewing angles than other laptop screens. One of the most common tasks I do in slate mode is reviewing documents with others.
     
  2. atlguy

    atlguy Notebook Consultant

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    Got my tablet today :) My first impressions have been that the machine does have a superior screen. The whites are white, colors are vibrant. Unfortunately, the grain does kinda bothers me. But I think its about getting used to the screen than anything else. Other than that I'm pretty happy with this machine. Primary reason being Linux installed easily. Everything works out of the box including the webcam and built in microphone ( I've not been able to get the mic working on my dell ). Macbook would be a big pain to install Linux on and maintain it. BTW this machine is pretty quick with the SL9400 processor :)
     
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    Another Tablet User. I'll take that.
     
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    The Fire Snake Notebook Virtuoso

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    Glad you are happy. Just my opinion but I think you are missing out on a lot of the capabilities of the tablet not using Windows 7.
     
  5. cassiohui

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    i second that...using tablet and not windows is silly.
     
  6. atlguy

    atlguy Notebook Consultant

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    You're missing a lot of freedom not using Linux :)

    BTW Ubuntu Karmic has built in support for many of the tablet functions :) I can use the wacom stylus just like I would in Windows.

    The keyboard rocks btw :)
     
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    Did not know that. Gotta check it out.
     
  8. atlguy

    atlguy Notebook Consultant

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    I have been using Linux for years(since ~ 1997). Its up to you but my impression is that you get some cool tablet functions with Windows over Linux, but if you can find a way to use those features in Linux and are happy, more power to you. Enjoy! :)
     
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    cassiohui Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, somehow only apple manages to get away with this sort of thing....if microsoft did this they'd be in deep s_it
     
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    There is something to be said about being customer oriented contrasting to developer oriented.
     
  13. cassiohui

    cassiohui Notebook Evangelist

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    surely apple is apple(themselves) > customer > developer :p

    some things they do aren't helping either the customer or the developer
     
  14. atlguy

    atlguy Notebook Consultant

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    The point is not whether Microsoft will do such a thing or not. The point is that they *can*.

    That said, Microsoft used to ship the trial version of office with the new XML format ( docx, xlsx, pptx ). They would give users the full feature set until the expiry. Once expired people could not get their data out of the proprietary format ( as no other software could read the XML formats ). So they were forced to pay for the new version of office ( since old versions could not handle the newer format as well ) just so they could get a hold of their data.

    Vista has a kill switch which Microsoft has used in the past. I note several such examples. The lesson learn is without open standards, protocols and formats we are at the mercy of Microsoft, Apple or any such big company.
     
  15. cassiohui

    cassiohui Notebook Evangelist

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    well if you bothered to check then you can simply download a plugin for office 2000/xp/2003 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...70-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466&displaylang=en oh, and this plugin is free, by the way.

    also, that's what trial means! it expires! if the trial runs out before you saved everything, tough. you bloody well know it's a trial that's only going to last 60 days, if you still wanted to use it and not "save as office 97-2003" format (and don't bother using the plugin), then feel free to cry about it. boohoo
     
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    Can and do are two different states of matters. Just like suspects in a lineup, anyone one of these guys can be the killer. But did they commit the crime?

    Microsoft has a long history of being a developer friendly company.

    Look at the vast ecosystem that has grown from the Windows OS. Windows nor Microsoft didn't always have such a dominate market share. Back in the day, it seemed like the market could go different ways, none of which included Microsoft. But Microsoft made some very smart business decisions and people realized they could make money support Windows and Windows applications. The ecosystem grew from choice.
     
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    Hi,
    i've got a question concerning the X200t's screen. In read in Laptopmag's review, that it supports only two finger multitouch. But the T400s can recognize four fingers. Are there different screens, or is it only a problem with a driver?
     
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    This is true. They are actually two different screens and it is not a driver issue.

    IMO, it isn't a big deal. I'd rather Lenovo put the old NavDial back into its rightful place.
     
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    atlguy Notebook Consultant

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    surfasb, do you want to wait until they commit a crime? Incase you didn't know Microsoft has numerous anti-trust cases against them. They are perfectly capable of destroying startups. They ruined Netscape's business due to their monopoly. Thats just one example. There are several examples to cite. They have prevented the market from progressing. They have destroyed competition and hence innovations. They have complete disregard for standards. It doesn't matter if Microsoft is developer friendly or not, they are a monopoly and monopolies are bad.

    cassiohui, riiight...can you check the timeline when Microsoft released the plugin? Do you know what kinda sh*tstorm was raised before Microsoft released the plugin? Its great to see people like you defending Microsoft because when the same company locks you out of your own machine is when you will realize what a foolish decision it is to side with a monopolist.
     
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    We're starting to get more than a little off topic. Please try and keep it in check.
     
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    Is there any chance, that this will change? And has the x200t a real capacitive screen?
     
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    The T400 uses an Ntrig capacitive digitizer. The x200T uses a Wacom capacitive digitizer.

    Well, I'm not sure if the Wacom hardware supports more than two touches at once. If it does, then it is a "simple" driver update (good drivers aren't ever easy to write however).
     
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    I would like to add that the grain on the screen, which comes from the writing tablet has begun to become less noticeable over time. I guess I'm getting more used to it; however, when I switch back and forth b/w my macbook pro, it is definitely there. It's not the end of the world, but I do feel that it bears mentioning. I can think of worse things: dead pixels, poor viewing angles, insufficient brightness.
     
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    Yeah, I don't notice the grain consistently. Usually it will pop into my mind for a second and then get replaced by something more important. Like who to start/sit this weekend. Or do I want Krispy Kreme or Dunkin Doughnuts for breakfast?
     
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    I've read through the entire stack on this thread and its been very helpful, thanks. Now I want to buy a x200t with sl9600 and the daylight viewable screen and the 8 cell. Seems like I can't get the new processor on a CTO machine and I can't tell if any of the pre-mades that are available all over the interwebs use the 280 nit normal or the 400nit super bright. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
     
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