T420s is on the Lenovo website!!!

Lenovo - Laptops - ThinkPad - T Series - T420s

So wanna to get one....1 week from ordering and 2 weeks for shipping? I have to wait for 3 weeks at least? Ahhhhh.....

 

Still don't see where you are able to order one, it just says coming late March. Where are you getting the shipping dates from?

 

Searched the Lenovo sales site and I cannot find it for sale, at least in this part of the United States... Only coming soon, this month

 

Also, see here...

Search results for: t420s

Also, I'm curious to know how the extra "bay battery" changes the weight profile of the machine... Will it be more weight, or less than the optical drive I think it replaces.

 

The battery should be 235 grams; the optical drive is 140 grams.

 

Delivery date is according to "usually slow" Lenovo processing speed....

 

Thanks, I also heard that there might be a slice battery for this model? Any word on the weight on that?

 

Is that mean I can order it right now? And it is faster than Lenovo's delivering speed?

 

Yes you are probably better off not ordering from Lenovo. And Lenovo's site will always list upcoming models with XX coming late March or something to that extent. Waiting for that x220t..

 

I don't think slice batteries are offered for T420s. It's not listed anywhere.

 

Only 3 cell Ultrabay battery is available...

 

Things I like: 1600x900 resolution screen

Things I wish it had: low end quad core processor and 1080p.

 

there is no way to have both ssd and hdd at the same time? I thought we could do it after viewing the video.

or the 80g flash memory is built in?

 

If you see here:

Personal Systems Reference (PSREF) sheets

And get the product book for the thinkpads, you can gleen a bit more information.

The lack of a full 1080p, and a slice battery is a bit of a buzz kill, and the lack of the better quality screen found in the x220 makes me want to take a hit in the resolution department, and just go with an x220.

 

This has been the situation with the T410s. Display so-so. Main 6-cell battery weak, ultrabay 3-cell battery lasting a bit over 1 hour, no battery slice.

 

I'm beginning to learn that not everything is so peachy in the land of Lenovo. I just started looking at the x220 and t420s after the Sony Vaio SA and Z series has been set back to somewhere in the summer.

Such a same to cripple the t420s with a bunch of these little issues...

 

I take it the T420s would be perfect in your mind with a 14" IPS screen and 8 hours of battery life?

 

Battery life is definitely where it should have improved much more than it has.
Screen would be nice, but for me battery is major selling point.
Why not having regular T420 with <15h battery and slim T420s with exclusive power saving features/power sipping components yet as powerful/almost as powerful and with the same battery life or close to regular T420? Or at least make current 90+wh slice that works on T4x0/5x0/W series compatible with slim T series/other way around - make T4x0s compatible with current slice battery. Prpbably too much hassle to make it happen for Lenovo atm+big and heavy external battery is not what Lenovo is probably willing to see attached to their premium 14".
We might see it reaching higher battery life numbers when Lenovo dumps DVD drives on their 14" laptops in the probably not so far future. I wonder if they will dump ODD on all 14" or only on their premium XxxxS series?

 

Yep... And the topper: the Sony SA and SB DO have the slice battery.

 

Is the IPS screen really much better? I've never encountered one. I hear it gives you better viewing angles, but is the screen actually clearer?

the lack of 1080p is disappointing although not really a deal killer for me.
The lower battery life is also disappointing. Makes me want to consider just getting a T420. I initially looked at the X220, but I don't think I can live with the reduced resolution.

 

Yes. (I've been using a T43p with IPS "Flexview" panel. I've recently looked at an EliteBook 8740w with IPS "DreamColor 2" panel.)

I switched from T410s to T410 after a couple of months. Aside from being "slender," the T410s offers no significant advantages over the T410. I don't think the T420s will change the way I look at the "s" model.

 

USB3.0 on the T420s only.

 

^^^ I haven't been holding my breath for USB 3.0.

 

Is there a good comparison list between the 420 and 420s?

from what I can see from the specs:
T420 vs T420s
Weight: >4.13lb vs >3.9lb
Thickeness: 1.18in vs 0.83in
Ports: usb/esata vs usb 3.0
Battery: 9hrs (9cell) vs 10hrs (6cell + 3cell bay)

Did I miss anything?
I think the T420s bay battery is 0.5lb so to match the T420 battery life, it becomes heavier.

I rarely ever use the optical drive so I think I can live with a bay battery and I don't care about USB 3.0. So it seems like all I'm really paying for is for it to be 0.35in slimmer. unless I missed something

 

That is a really light estimate for the T420. I would have to imagine that's without anything in the optical bay, and possibly without a battery either.

 

From what I heard, the T4xxS series replace the X300/X301, which has better build quality than the non-S series.
If this is true, you are not just buying for the slimness, but more solid build.

 

I find those estimates hard to believe.

I've found it hard to justify the T410s over the T410. I still find it hard to justify the T420s over the T410.

On the T410, I can have 2 hard drives. I use multiple removable Ultrabay drives for different projects.

 

Those are the numbers listed on the websites.
T420: "starting from": 4.13lb Spec: <4.84lb
T420s: "starting from": 3.9lb Spec: <3.94 with optical drive

The optical drive is about 0.37lb depending on which one.
The bay battery is 0.5lb

The batteries listed are:
T420 9 cell: 94Wh
T420s 6 cell: 44Wh 3 cell: 32wh Total: 76Wh

So I guess the T420s's uses alot less power? or it uses less power in the formula they used to calculate this?

 

Don't trust those values from companies since they are overinflated and are pretty much never achievable. From users with the real laptops in hand, the weights tend to be at least 0.5lbs heavier than what companies like Lenovo state. As for the battery life, again there are many other factors and you should again wait until reviews. From the last generation and considering the hardware in both current machines, the Txxxs series will not consume significantly lower amounts of power than the Txxx series, so I wouldn't believe that with less capacity, it would achieve more battery life.

 

Same category of processors (i.e. T420s not using any ULV processors). Same display panels. For comparable configurations and usage patterns, T420s cannot consume less power than T420. Am I missing something serious?

BTW, thanks for your lookups. I never meant to doubt you personally.

 

Noprob, It was good I looked those up, I had assumed that 9 cell of the T420 was the same as the 6+3=9cells of the T420s.

I do understand that you cannot trust the numbers like battery life since there are many factors. I thought I could trust weight though. However, I thought that they at least come up with the numbers the same way so they could be used to compare. I guess not.

I had my eyes set on getting a T420s. Now I'm not sure, maybe the T420. I'd consider the T410, but I think the 2nd generation intel is probably important.

Are there any other differences between the T420s and T420 that I've missed? Maybe I should start considering Dell or Sony.

 

What's the price difference between the T420 and T420s?

 

It depends on your needs, priorities and budget. I find the T410/420 more practical, whereas the T410s/420s offer no absolute advantages that can "tip the scale," so to speak.

Ah, configuration-dependent, but around $500, maybe?

 

Thats a good point, it is easy to get caught up on the difference between a few Ghz or "2nd generation" when many times the difference you notice might be close to zero. Although I've read that it should be like 15% faster but I'm sure that is very application dependent.

I remember when I was looking at the T420, I was also looking at the Dell E6420 so I may need to take another look. I remember the specs looked similar and even the body's looked similar. I did like that the Dell had an HDMI port. Is the "Displayport" standard something that all Lenovo's have?

 

Seriously? If both are configured with the same options they are still 500 apart? I would not buy the T420s in that case.

I know when I bought the T410s the spread was only $200 or so. But I got a really good discount coupon on top of my EPP price.

 

Seriously, I was projecting from the T410/T410s scenario. It's hard to justify the extra cash for the "s" model.

 

Kept going back and forth between the two (T420s and T420) and the more I looked at what you really get or not get, the more I gravitated to now the T420 and X220 systems only.

Only wish there were some hands on reviews on the T420 that I have not seen yet, but the system is now out. Goodness, where are the reviews

 

I had also considered the X220, but I couldn't get past the smaller screen. I currently have a 14" dell and I find that is barely enough height for some webpages.

 

My opinion is that the runtime numbers are basically made up. But battery life for the T420s should be pretty decent based on results from the X220. Obviously the display is bigger on the 420s but everything else (CPU, chipset, etc.) should be similar.

The X220 manages 8 hours on a 63Wh battery, or 7.87W.

If we assume 9W for the T420s (to account for the bigger screen) the runtime would be around 5 hours with the 6-cell and 8.5 hours with the 6-cell and the bay battery.

 

I'm torn as well. The X220 has the very nice IPS option and better battery life. On the other hand the T420s has a bigger, much higher resolution screen, a better touchpad (no clickpad), USB 3.0 without having to buy an insanely-priced i7 model, and an optical drive (or extra battery).

If you don't absolutely need USB 3.0 or the lower weight/thickness of the T420s get the T420. The T420 takes 9.5mm hard drives, so you have more options in storage. It has eSATA (a decent alternative to USB 3.0 for hard drives) and FireWire. You get more battery options, too (slice battery, 9-cell, bigger 6-cell).

The only advantages of the T420s are:
- Lighter
- Thinner
- USB 3.0
- Can take a bay battery (but then the T420 gets the slice battery)

 

I agree, the T420s doesnt seem worth it.
I think I'll go with the T420 unless I go with some other one like the Dell E6420 or something, but thats alot more pricey.

 

I really like the light-weighted and slim design which makes me easier to put it in my backpacks.

Should I order it directly from Lenovo or from Printers, Monitors - Cost Central

1. Which one is cheaper?(student discount coupon from Lenovo?)
2. Which one has faster delivery?

Thx

 

The S series for most will not be worth it. I had a T410 and loved the thing but the thickness bothered me everytime i was using the laptop. I know i can get a cheap laptop with same specs for $400 brand new but if I hate using the thing cuz it's "ugly" then it wont be worth it for me still. Sure, the PC is to get work so who stares at the actual laptop all day instead of actually working but every Thinkpad i've own had me falling inlove. LOL

I always equate my machines to girlfriends, sure she cooks and clean and gives me lots of other "pleasures" but if i can't stand looking at her after we are done i wont be sticking around!

Anyways, I had a T410 as i said and sold it (at a small loss) just to get the T410s and i've been inlove with this system since then. Surely it's definitely not as powerful as the T410 it replaced but man i love to watch her take her time!

 

Just a quick note: student discounts are not offered via coupons. You have to access your school's affiliate site to order.

 

You are a sick sick man.

 

Uh...

< backs slowly out of the thread >

 

*sigh* I am now tempted to upgrade from this x120e (which I love) to either the 220 or the t420. Just really want a little more screen. Teeny bit more power.
I just have one hang up and that is that I really want something that can do light gaming. WoW on very low settings, older games, etc.

thoughts?

 

I ran WoW on my x201i core i3 2.4ghz CPU with integrated graphic card on low-settings.

 

I am considering this:
I figure a x220 with IPS is going to be out of my budget. Will the T420 i5 sb be very much faster/better than this? I got a price on this of $780


Intel Core i5-560M Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3)1
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 3212
14.1 WXGA TFT (1280x800), w/ LED Backlight (WWAN antenna)
NVIDIA NVS 3100m Optimus Graphics 512MB DDR3 with AMT
2 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (1 DIMM)8
UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad)
250 GB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm4
DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)5
6 cell Li-Ion Battery - 55+60
None
ThinkPad bgn Wireless10
Integrated Mobile Broadband - Upgradable65
2516: 1 Year Depot Warranty - TopSeller7

 

Will the T420s have an option for a multi-touch screen like the T410s did?