T430? B&N? Help is really appreciated

1}Can anybody tell me the machine code or model for the T430 and the x230 just in case?
I would like to check if it supports IWS and the machine code is one slippery snake. . .

2}Also how does the B&N offer work? Will i need to verify anything because i am buying from singapore.

I was initially looking at the E430 for it's price. And then get an ssd.

But reading up it seems it is wiser to purchase the T430 for the trademark durability instead of the
E430 and i just found out it is possible to get an extra discount using the B&N offers.

4}Also how much more juice does the 9 cell provide?


5}Also what are the differences with the wirecard? Is the base model 1x1 enough
or should i bump it up or should i wait till it arrives and test realtime whether i need
an upgrade?

My plan is to make the purchase on lenovo website. And send it to comGATEWAY who
then sends to me in singapore. There will not be bumps or impact high enough to shattered
my laptop yeah?

Before asking why go to alll this trouble. Doing this the laptop will cost at most 1.2k plus shipping.
in singapore for the same model with 3 years warranty it will cost 1.9k. I will be buying more warranty
when i see the need to.

Your help is really appreciated.

Also one last question should i purchase the x230 instead because it is more portable? Most of the
times i use my laptop at the desk though.

And the 1600*900 add on will still make the x230 the more expensive choice. . But i have read that the
x230 uses an ips display?




For machine code, click review, add to cart and you will see it.

 

2) Just sign up and buy through the B&N portal. I used it to get my T430, and I did not have to verify anything.

4) 50% more than the 6-Cell.

5) At least get the free upgrade to the Intel 2200.

As for deciding between the X230 and T430, that's really up to you. People ask these questions all the time, but the way I see it you need to know how you plan to use the laptop and what you value, and only you can determine those.

The X230 does not come with an IPS display by default (unless you get the t, which I would not recommend unless you know you need the feature set); you have to buy the upgrade.

 

I think 6 cell is more then enough i guess. 6 hours is ample of time. .

is the the 3g card already in the set or it is a separate purchase?

Do you mind telling me the dimensions of the box? i need it to calculate the shipping costs but i cant
seem to find the box dimensions


And the B&N website is quite funny. Even after i key in the resetted password it says no such account

 

You have to buy the 3G card if you want it. It should be a configurable part.

I have the box right here and it is 15 x 11 x 5. The UPS shipping label says that the shipping weight was 3.5kg.

 

Also is it advisable to order the windows 8 version . And then install windows 7 over?
Doing this i can get a free windows 8 . As i already have a windows 7 free from school

Are the dimensions in inches or cm? Shipping is only USD$40 . Which is too cheap , that it is questionable. .
Thanks for you help commander wolf.

 

If it is free, and unless you are one of these people who prefer the factory image, I say why not? There is, at the very least, no hardware difference between the two.

EDIT: Inches, sorry, here in 'Murika we're super backwards with these things.

 

Okay i will be going through the customization a few more times before i decide finally. ! Thanks again!

Okay i will be getting the base model with

EDIT there is one model at $711 with

Better cpu by a little 3320m instead of 3210
1600*900
500GB
6205 intel
Bluetooth
Fingerprint reader
No dedicated graphics though. Should i add to total up to 750? Dont need the bluetooth though.
Is the 6205 good?

1600*900 $50
Dedicated graphics $50
500 GB $10
Intel 2200 Free

Would it be possible to upgrade graphics in the future on my own? Or it is soldered on?

 

Soldered.

 

For prospective buyers. I suggest to close both eyes. And upgrade the gpu. (for gamers as advised by many)

Base on benchmarks. The 5400 is about 40%-50% faster depending on what game is played. No brainer upgrade.

Also the 3320 is around 5% faster then the 3210. Not worth $50 but it is in the bundle so it will just get upgraded.

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If you'll be gaming, agreed. If not, it's a waste of money.

 

Yeah, it all depends on your needs again... I have the absolute base base spec when it comes to CPU/GPU, and it's more than enough.

 

careful of the fan noise issue with the T430, i got mine T430 couple of months back and the fan noise is pretty horrendous (about as bad as mine T420 with Nvidia that i had for test a while back). If you are used to quite fan, you maybe in for a big shock, just FYI.

 

I game frequently. And if Cs go has respectable fps on the 5400 at high and even ultra. That is the one I want.

The mac book air screams banshee even when just playing YouTube videos. I think I'll manage the fan from the ThinkPad haha. I had the core2 version....

Currently deciding if I need the 9 cell wallet is stretch to 1nm already haha

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Does anybody know the machine code or model for the t430 with the i5-3320? Can't see it in the customizing page

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Yeah, but you have to realize the MBA does a very good job of only cranking the fan only when necessary, while a stock T430 just keeps going and going and going... it is a fairly well documented issue.

 

I have read that you guys do not like the back lit keyboard? I have the option to subtract forty to have the normal keyboard should I do that? And get the 9 cell battery?

The one thing I wanted on the air was back lot keyboards. But it seems on YouTube there is a think light near the webcam. Does the t430 have that?

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if you can live without backlit, then the non-backlit keyboard is fine, it also provides you with a better typing experience.

 

Oh. That's bad then. Won't it be detrimental to the fans? Degrading faster then expected? Any modifications we can do? Shouldn't a software update help?

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I think I will opt out of the back lit keyboard.

Now should I buy additional warranty at 47.20 or a 9cell battery i stead at 50? Warranty sounds wiser.

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• Intel Core i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz)
• Windows 8 64
• 14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready
• NVIDIA NVS 5400M Graphics with Optimus Technology, 1GB DDR3 Memory
• 4 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (1 DIMM)
• UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader
• 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
• DVD Recordable 8x Max, Dual Layer, Ultrabay Enhanced w/ SW Royalty for Windows 8
• 6 Cell Li-Ion TWL 70+
• Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna
• Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN
• Mobile Broadband upgradable
• 1 Year Depot/Express Warranty
Upgrade to 2YR Depot

This will be the configuration i will be getting at USD766 Does anybody knows what does with royalty for windows 8 mean for the
optical DRIVE. Does anybody know if depot warranty is international? I remember seeing a thread about warranties but can't seem to find it anymore

Guys should i get only the second year warranty. Warranty up till the third year. Or get a nine cell battery and stick to the one year warranty?

Think one year with nine cell is out. Laptop looks ugly with the butt sticking out haha

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Also is it possible to choose a faster shipping from lenovo to me(cgw us address) ?

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Ok, you need to stop double posting. Edit your prior post if you have more to add.

That being said, the battery versus warranty thing is again personal preference dependent on how you are going to use the laptop. Do keep in mind that you can make a one-time extension/upgrade to the default warranty for a pretty cheap rate. I don't know how international warranty works.

I don't think there is an expedited shipping option either, but I haven't tried.

 

I've merged all your replies. As Commander Wolf mentioned, please use the multiquote or edit buttons as appropriate.

As for warranty, it's up to personal preference. My take on it is that laptops are likely to have problems either soon after you get it (well within the 1-year warranty) or late in its useful lifetime. Given the lower and lower costs of computers these days, it just isn't worth it spending additional money on an extended warranty.

 

So sorry about my posts. Quite excited but even before buying I have buyers remorse.. I guess I will mull over it a little longer. And anticipate a good black Friday deal.

Have there been good deals in the past during Black Friday for ThinkPad on the Lenovo website?

Additional warranty will warrant a higher resale value. I am not the type to keep an electronic gadgets for long.

Side note thank you for all your inputs. Now during black Friday I can just buy without having many questions haha

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Lesterq, no one will be able to tell you what is best for you apart from yourself.

These are two very important questions:
Think about what you are going to be using the laptop for?
What is most important to you, portability/light weight or performance?

Those two simple questions should help to answer much of what you asked here. Like do you need the 9 cell battery... well do you need the extra run time? Comes back to the portability/performance question. There is no right or wrong, it all depends on your needs.

I would always get the best display resolution possible and IPS if I can but that is because I do some photo editing on my laptop so screen quality is very important to me.

If you are having buyers remorse before even making the purchase than something is wrong and I would question if you are buying the right product. When buying on a budget you may not always be able to get exactly what you want, in that case hold-off a little longer, save more money and buy the system you want or have a good think about what you really need your laptop for and if you can configure a system that meets them needs be happy with that. There will always be a lighter, faster, better system coming out but what's important is, that the system you buy works for your needs, the rest does not matter.

 

I personally think warranty is of more use. Then battery life because most of the places I will be using my laptop has a power socket.

Also I feel the resolution is important but it is also expensive...

I guess I will be waiting for the black Friday sale... Patience is a virtue but it sure is hard to employ. Haha

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Is reinstalling windows 7 on thinkpads tough?

Drivers and stuff. Are they easy to find?

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Very easy. Get yourself the right-version .iso file. Burn it to DVD (or put it on a bootable USB flash drive). Use the COA key in the battery bay. Read the Hearst Guide.

Drivers and stuff are in C:\SWTOOLS. Copy that to a USB flash drive. After Windows 7 installation, open Drivers window, go down the list and, for each unresolved device driver, point to that folder on the USB drive and tell Windows to search its subfolders for the right driver. For certain Lenovo apps, you must explicitly run the installers yourself. Read the Hearst Guide.

Having said all that, I'd say you don't really have to do a clean Windows 7 installation.

 

I do :{ will be buying a msata to house the os

 

"I do" as in "I have no choice"? Hmm. You can always transfer the system image from the stock HDD to the mSATA SSD.

No need for a clean Windows 7 installation (from scratch). No need to worry about "drivers and stuff."

 

Kaso, I believe lesterq wants to use Windows 7 but have to contend with the Windows 8 OS that came from the factory hence the clean installation.

 

Have to contend with? Have no choice?

 

Ha you got me on that one. But basing it on the specs provided then he would have to do a clean install in order to get Windows 7, in fairness he did mentioned that he already has an unactivated Windows 7 key ( source) so choosing Windows 8 from the factory is quite a wise move so you can have both OS'.

Though it doesn't matter how much I sugar coat it as Kaso made me feel really stoopid right now.

 

That was not the intenshoon. Always love the Hearst Guide. Arrgghh, just mentioned it one more time.

 

Haha! You guys are cuute. Yes I will be getting windows 8 from Lenovo as I have a windows 7 key that is free from school. Doing this will enable me to have a 'free' windows 8 key.

Therefore I will need to install my msata , install windows and profit.

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Have ordered this :

Processor

Intel Core i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.30 GHz)

Operating system Windows 8 64

Operating system language Windows 8 64 English

Display type 14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit AntiGlare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready

System graphics NVIDIA NVS 5400M Graphics with Optimus Technology, 1GB DDR3 Memory

Total memory 4 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (1 DIMM)

Keyboard Keyboard US English International with a Euro symbol

Pointing device UltraNav with Fingerprint Reader

Camera 720p HD Camera with Microphone

Hard drive 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm

Ultrabay DVD Recordable 8x Max, Dual Layer, Ultrabay Enhanced w/ SW Royalty for Windows 8

System expansion slots Express Card Slot & 4-in-1 Card Reader

Battery 9 Cell Li-Ion TWL 70++

Power cord 90W AC Adapter - US (2pin)

Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna

Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN

Integrated mobile broadband Mobile Broadband upgradable

Language pack Language Pack Win8 US English

Protection services Non-Return HDD 1 Year Warranty

EGGCITEDDDDD[/COLOR]


Next up
mSata 128gb ssd. Crucial?
One stick of 8gb.
Remove hdd for a caddy for hdd in the future.

BILLED ME IN AROUND % MINUTE AFTER ORDERING

 

A Crucial SSD wouldn't be bad, they use good memory in their RAM from Micron so I imagine they build quality SSDs.

I personally prefer Intel, I have the 256GB 520 series but you could get the 128GB. They are extremely fast drives, just look at the reviews they are normally very close to the top if not at it and most importantly they have Intel quality and reliability. I am told by a number of of people to stay away from OCZ, even though they are very quick apparently their reliability leaves much to be desired when compared to the other top brands.

The Samsung drive is meant to be good value for money.

 

It's USD174 for the 128 Gb though. . But it has international warranty.
Not sure i would want to pay the premium for it though. ..


Looking at crucial as i have read mostly good review after issues have been fixed.

Can anybody recommend a caddy that has no gaps?

Most of them either have gaps or are US40 and above. O.O

Also i can mix a 8gb with the 4gb in it right? would 1600 be better or it doesnt matter?

 

Has anybody seen this before?

Note: If your computer is equipped with both a hard disk drive and an mSATA solid state drive, you are
not recommended to use the mSATA solid state drive as a bootable device. The mSATA solid state drive is
designed and developed for “cache” function purpose only. If you use the mSATA solid state drive as a
bootable device, its reliability is not guaranteed.


WHEWWW . Just got around to looking at the drivers for t430 . And the list is LOOOOOOONNNNGGGGGG.
Kinda regret getting the windows 8 now. .

 

Baloney!

64GB "cache"? 128GB "cache"? 256GB "cache"? Cache? Cache? Cache?

You took that legalese statement out of context. Re-read the "if" part. Do you understand what it refers to?

 

Hmmm are you saying the 64gb as a cache is stupid?

I do not understand.

Because that is exactly what i plan to do and i dont want it to be detrimental to the system. . Have tried
googling about os'es on the msata ssd but there have not been any 'issues' . . .

It should be okay right? It is still a sata port and it is still a storage device afterall. .

Also sidenote. If i were to install windows on the msata and mac os x/linux/windows7/8 on the hdd. When i want to switch
os , i go into bios and toggle the boot option , yes?

 

Hmm, I was saying that mSATA SSDs are not designed for use as "file cache" alone. Manufacturers, such as Lenovo, offers computers that have a small mSATA SSD (typically 16GB) in conjunction with a large SATA HDD (say, 500GB). That small mSATA SSD is set up -- with BIOS settings and run-time control software (such as Intel Rapid Response) -- to serve as a "file cache" in the hope to speed up access to frequently used files that reside on the slower HDD.

The legalese statement that you so seriously quoted is meant to cover situations like the above: 16GB mSATA cache + large HDD.

SSDs are meant to be used as any other drive, including as a boot drive. Only the form factor is different, but the electronics are equivalent to those in the 2.5" SATA enclosure. Why spend big bucks on a 64GB or 128GB mSATA SSD and use it as a "file cache"?

I would forget completely about the "file cache" business and go with SSD for boot/OS/programs + HDD for storage.

I am typing this on a T520 that has a Crucial M4 mSATA SSD 128GB under the keyboard. It has served me without any "detrimental issues" for almost a year now.

 

Oh. Totally misunderstood you. And the manual. Many a times I skip reading manuals totally but it always backfires.

This time I wanna be sure. Thus the seriousness I guess. Haha. Will most probably be buying the crucial and setting up as os. And games and files that are used on daily basis would be there too. Can't wait to get my ThinkPad!

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Enjoy your new T430 when it arrives. It's a solid notebook overall. (Lenovo should pay forum members who have helped you in your purchase decision. )

 

!! Haha. Actually I also considered the MSI Ge60..

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@lesterq

Why buy a 128GB Crucial SSD and waste more money on a 64GB mSATA drive or put the OS on it when you have the SSD?

The mSATA runs at SATA2 speeds and is not as quick as your SSD on SATA3, not that the difference would be that big but it's there. If your buying a 128GB SSD then use that for your OS or spend the extra money you would throw on a larger mSATA drive on upgrade the SSD to 256GB.

Just leave the 16GB mSATA drive that Lenovo provide and use it to cache your caddy HDD, you can use the -exclude command to stop it caching your C:\ (SSD) and just leave it there to give you 1TB caddy HDD a performance boost. That is what I would do, not waste more money on mSATA drives, not when that money can be put to better use buying a bigger SSD.

Regarding the caddies, like most things in this world, you get what you pay for. Go cheap and you will get a working caddy but it may not have as good a fit or finish/quality as a Lenovo or NewmodeUS caddy but you may not care about that as long as it works. For me little things like that are important so I purchased from NewmodeUS even if it costs more than twice the price of a cheap e-bay caddy.

 

The only SSD I am buying is the msata. Therefore the os will be housed there.. I will be keeping the HDD for music/vidoes/pictures...

Regarding the caddy. Is the newmodeus a perfect fit? I will most probably get that instead. The optical drive can be converted into an external optical drive yes?

Thanks again for helping. Though I doubt Lenovo would pay you guys. But I really appreciate your help.

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I've used various UltraBay caddy adapters, and I must say that the NewModeUS item is light and shows well. Other than that, if you're a person who must watch cents and dollars (and I suppose you are, by your sensible comments on $20 here and $50 there), you can get a good -- not shabby, not unreliable, not ill-fitting, not cheap-looking -- UltraBay caddy adapter for about $10, like this one.

I'd rather spend the money on RAM and SSD.

Yes, the removed optical bay can be used as an external device via a slimline SATA to USB adapter cable (check Amazon).

 

I would prefer to get a caddy that will serve me thru the whole lifetime of my laptop and if the newmode can achieve that. I will drop the $50 I will research about them more when my HDD reaches 450 gb. Which should let me have enough time to save up for a one time good caddy..

Like I said earlier. SSD is the most important. Followed by ram IF 4 gb isn't enough. Or the caddy if ram is enough. We will see. wonder how my laptop is doing though

Also now that I ordered the 9 cell and re view the video with the 9 cell. It's butt sticking out is quite ugly. Haha


Question is the cheap $10 one strong? I intend to remove the optical drive to shed weight. How heavy is the optical drive? If it is strong enough maybe I will get that first instead of ram..
Thanks for the link kaso! Maybe i should get that now so it will reach in.conjunction with my laptop haha


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I'd say "inexpensive," not "cheap." To answer your question, I repeat myself: not shabby, not unreliable, not ill-fitting, not cheap-looking.

I don't sell those things, nor get any commission from pushing them. Just my experience. I've used a few of those "cheap" ones for years now. Your money, your call.

 

I'll get those then. My first time utilising eBay haha

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My shipment has been sent to ups!.

Question why is the product name World Ease? And why
is it only 3.3kg?

Commanderwolf's t430i was 3.5kg...

 

World Ease is a UPS service. Only 3.3kg? Maybe they forgot the hard drive, or the battery!!!

 

:O really hope they didn't... I opt for the 9 cell too.. Sigh if they did I'd be damned. I'll have to wait another two weeks. Since it has to go thru com gateway to Singapore


Also isn't the 90w adapter heavier!?
Hope they didn't screw up!

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