There is an easy alternative if you search hard enough. Of course, any mention of this is censored.
The Recovery Media Creator could have been improved.
A Windows 7 installation on the (mSATA) SSD, together with the drivers in the C:\SWTOOLS folder, is more expedient and reliable.
Just download an .ISO image of Windows 7 installation and use your COA key.
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The SWTools folder contains everything else you need for a clean install, with the added bonus that you can also choose to never install some of those apps that you don't want.
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I previously bought a window 7 ult which I dropped onto USB like you described - I use that USB stick to install windows 7 home on my other systems. Its all depends on what CD key you use to install with.
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I will be pulling the trigger soon I think for this T430s, I just have a few more questions.
1.) Will the 4th of july bring a better sale than the one currently going on?
2.) Where would be the best place to buy an ultrabay battery or an ultrabay hdd adapter? I haven't decided yet which one I will utilize.
3.) I will be buying 8gb (2x4gb) or ram to use in this machine and I am looking at some with 1.35v instead of 1.5. realistically, will this bottleneck my system? Will it save any battery life at all?
4.) I am planning on doing light gaming on this machine, and I am planning on just getting the HD 4000 model. When will thunderbolt eGPU's be available, and will they be able to play on the laptop screen, or will I need a seperate monitor?
5.) Are both of these SSD's Samsung and Corsair compatible with the T430s?
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2. You can try NewmodeUS and various eBay sellers like this one.
3. No drastic impact.
5. Go for the Samsung. (0.28" or 7mm height is good.)
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System boot and shutdown video of the T430s with the 256GB Samsung 830 Series SSD.
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If you don't need the notebook transfer kit, you can save some cash by purchasing the drive alone. If you're going to do a clean install anyway, you aren't going to need the notebook kit, and it's not worth the extra $50 anyway. -
*s1148625 : Can you test the graphics card? in games or some benchmark? because I have a dilemma to choose i5 and nvidia or i7 and intel 4000
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Thanks a lot for your mini review and videos on the T430s. Could you
give some comments on the heat management and fan noise on the
T430s when compared to your T420, especially under load. There have
been many reports on those issues on the T420s so I wonder if they
have been resolved in this model. I'm deciding whether I should get
a T430 or a T430s. I prefer the form factor of T430s a lot more but
if it runs much hotter than the T430 (or T420), then its lower weight
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Apparently, my T430s has shipped on the 14th, but I don't have a tracking number from UPS just yet.
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I just bought the Samsung 830 SSD from Amazon for $247 -- its about $30 cheaper than new egg.
Amazon.com: SAMSUNG 830 Series 2.5-Inch 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-7PC256B/WW: Computers & Accessories
I still have the 120GB (new, has not arrived yet) version I bought for $89. I will return it or if someone wants to buy it off me send me a message. -
It seems that the HD+ screen upgrade is available at no cost until June 20th. Damn it, I could have saved approximately $50...
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Take a look at access time differences. The difference is huge. This makes your mSATA drive a LOT slower than Sata3 drive.
I dont know if its Muskin drive fault or is mSata actually that slow.
Perhaps the answer is that mSATA works on IDE mode instead of being on ACHI mode.
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I did see it on the T420S in shops and it was a big turn off for me. My T400S has poor viewing angles but at least it looks clean without any screen door effect. I can live with poor contrast but I won't take screen door effect. -
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So I got some answers, but need a few more.
Does Lenovo have sales for the 4th of July?
Where is the best place to buy an Ultrabay battery?
Can anyone tell me about Thunderbolt Egpus?
Should I go for i7 and thunderbolt and wait for an egpu or just get the i5 and NVS5200m?
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3DMark Score 6557 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 2129
HDR/SM3.0 Score 2794
CPU Score 4178
Game Score N/A
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 17.12 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 18.36 FPS
CPU1 - Red Valley 1.34 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 2.08 FPS
HDR1 - Canyon Flight 24.02 FPS
HDR2 - Deep Freeze 31.85 FPS
Fill Rate - Single-Texturing N/A
Fill Rate - Multi-Texturing N/A
Pixel Shader N/A
Vertex Shader - Simple N/A
Vertex Shader - Complex N/A
Shader Particles (SM3.0) N/A
Perlin Noise (SM3.0) N/A
8 Triangles N/A
32 Triangles N/A
128 Triangles N/A
512 Triangles N/A
2048 Triangles N/A
32768 Triangles N/A
Default settings used No (I didn't change any settings, so I'm not sure why this reports "No.")
Width 1280
Height 800
Anti-Aliasing None
Texture Filtering Optimal
VS Profile 3_0
PS Profile 3_0
Force Full Precision No
Disable HW Shadow Mapping No
Disable Post-processing No
Force Software Vertex Shader No
Color Mipmaps No
Force Software FP Filtering No
Repeat Tests Off
Fixed Framerate Off -
s1148625, can you please run HWInfo and tell us the model number of the display? (e.g. LENxxx or whatever)?
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If, later, you know for certain that only Windows 7 Professional can support a particular application, you can purchase an "anytime upgrade" license and have your OS morph itself into a bigger self, in place, in a few minutes.
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My T400 also has a LEN Display. So it seems the AU Optronics B140RW02 used on the T420s was the Problem.
I'm pretty relieved that the T430s Screen doesn't suffer from the Screen door effect.
I feel more confident about the t430s now. If only I hadn't played around with the New MBP today. But i guess the t430s makes more sense Because the MBP has too Many drawbacks as a business tool. -
Can you run 3dmark 11.
Also for those interested I ran some benchmarks on the x230, i5 but with faster memory.
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3DMark Score P721
Graphics Score 616
Physics Score 4321
Combined Score 745
Graphics Test 1 3.74 FPS
Graphics Test 2 3.73 FPS
Graphics Test 3 3.92 FPS
Graphics Test 4 1.42 FPS
Physics Test 13.72 FPS
Combined Test 3.47 FPS
Default settings used Yes
Edition Basic
Screen Width 1280
Screen Height 720
Msaa Sample Count 1
Texture Filtering Mode Trilinear
Max Af Anisotropy 1
Tessellation Detail 5
Max Tessellation Factor 10
ShadowMapSize 5
Shadow Cascade Count 4
Surface Shadow Sample Count 16
Volumetric Illumination Quality 5
Ambient Occlusion Quality 5
Depth Of Field Quality 5
Enable Window Mode Off
Enable Vertical Sync Off
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According to this thread (expand the "ThinkPad T420 HD+ (1600x900) Resolution Panels" section) that Lenovo ID (LEN40A1) applies to any and all panels. What we'd need to see is the FRU.
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As best I can tell, it is the 93P5693 (AUO 14.0" HD+).
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Well, thanks for the info. It's a bit disappointing as apparently the AUO version was the least-desirable of the 3 potential panel options on the T420s (Samsung, LG, AUO).
According to this thread Lenovo might be standardizing on the AUO and discontinuing the Samsung and LG.
I've got my T430s waiting for me at my folks'... going to go pick it up tonight and see the screen for myself. It's been a big concern of mine coming from a T410s, which apparently had a better quality panel than some of the newer ones.
Thanks again for all your help; I think you've been able to help a lot of us out by answering questions while we patiently await our own respective delivery dates! -
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I was on the other forums and some people claim that a dGPU will lower battery life? is that true?
anyone have any data on battery life w/ 3cell bay battery and dGPU? battery life was one of my concerns when selecting a laptop. -
So initial impressions coming from the T410s screen is that there is definitely a noticeable screen door effect on this panel.
It's the kind of thing that I'm sure over time I'd get used to, but it was something that was immediately noticeable coming from the T410s. I could see that if someone had been using the T420 or T420s and had a similar panel as this it may not be a big deal. -
Well that's it, I'll get a MBP. -
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I'm coming from a Macbook Air -- which IMO has one of the best notebook displays on the market. I will do a side by side comparison when my T430s arrives.
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The next great mod: X1 Carbon screen into the T430s.
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I thought that buddy above who made the vids said that there was no screen door effect
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T430s owners'/would-be owners' thread.
Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by XX55XX, Jun 5, 2012.