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    T431S mouse pad

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Isaac-1, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. Isaac-1

    Isaac-1 Notebook Guru

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    My wife just received a T431S as her new work computer, and I was playing with it since I have been considering upgrading from my T420S, for those that are considering it the click pad style mouse pad with no buttons (the pad is one big button that moves) is almost unuseable, every time I click on it the mouse pointer jumps (say from here to here, well maybe not that much, but CLOSE). Has anyone else tried using this beast particularly if you use aps that require alternate clicking?
     
  2. ibmthink

    ibmthink Notebookcheck Deity

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    Well, I guess you have to adjust the TouchPad sensitivity within the driver a bit (or, disable the TouchPad in the driver and just use the TrackPoint with the TrackPoint buttons).
     
  3. Isaac-1

    Isaac-1 Notebook Guru

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    There are no trackpoint buttons they share the fake buttons on the pad, I am a fairly loyal Thinkpad owner (my first thinkpad was a 700C), and this thing has by far the worst out of the box pointer / pad experience I have ever seen.
     
  4. Isaac-1

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    Has no one else had a hands on experience with a T431S?
     
  5. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Too expensive at the moment for what you get.
     
  6. karger

    karger Newbie

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    I bought the t431s trusting in its quality (been using thinkpad since 1989) and have discovered the mousepad is awful. I don't even use the trackpad (disable it) since I like the red pointer, but even with trackpad disabled, the mouse buttons are extremely difficult to use. You have to hit exactly the right spot and exert a lot of pressure, and it's very loud. If I'd known how bad it would be I would not have purchased this laptop.
     
  7. turqoisegirl08

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    Sort of saw this issue coming a mile away. With no identifying familiar and ergonomically raised trackpoint mouse buttons the clickpad will most likely be an inferior experience for those who navigate precisely with the trackpoint. Thankful my needs for the most part are met w/my T500 and X200Tablet :)
     
  8. ibmquality

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    Crap this is exactly how I felt when I used it for a few minutes. You have to hit the exact spot and pressure. But I feel stuck, only laptops I have had were thinkpads. Don't know how to use a trackpad. So if I have to, why not get a Thinkpad anyway. All the new laptops are going to have this........if it weren't for the quality of their customer service/Accidental protection I might explore other brands. But I can't.
     
  9. Bluebird20

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    Dell Latitudes and Precisions and HP Elitebooks and I believe some ProBooks offer the trackpoint along with the buttons to go along with it. Thinkpad isn't the only option.
     
  10. ibmquality

    ibmquality Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks did not really like the Dell option. If all else fails and I don't get used to the trackpoint I will just get the T430s and then deal with this problem in another 4 years. Also I like the ease of upgrade with the Thinkpads not familiar with Dells. Not into Hp at all.
     
  11. Jarhead

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    The Elitebooks don't provide a middle button, unfortunately. But the overall experience is still better than the newer Thinkpads (after playing around with a 8570p).

    Personally, if I have to replace either of my Thinkpads, I'll probably switch over to Dell or HP as well.
     
  12. Bluebird20

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    I've a seen a few Latitudes and they seem just a solid as Thinkpads. In fact, I got one on the way so I will see how it is from extended use. They are also just as upgrade-able as Thinkpads. In fact, Latitudes come standard with a 3-year warranty so it shows the company has confidence in the product. Since I like the Thinkpad's trackpoint, I want to see how the Latitude's is. From the reviews, they seem very nice. Here is a review:

    Review Dell Latitude E6530 Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
     
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    Oops, thanks for the correction. I must have missed not seeing the middle scroll button in the Elitebooks.
     
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    There's also the E6540 with the updated Haswell GPUs and even a Radeon 8790M (go figure).