T440p Owner's Thread

Is it normal for the fans to kick-in when not doing intensive work, such as scrolling or browsing? This gets really annoying!

 

Particularly sage advice given that most people come to a forum to complain or to get help.

I ordered mine on 12/5, it was delivered to a relative's house on 12/23, and I only just arrived here several days ago and have been playing with my 440p for a couple of days. I, too, was feeling some trepidation when I opened the box, but banked on the problems described here being exceptions rather than the rule.

* I see some light bleed on the boot screen, but nothing in Windows. FHD display is very, very pretty and clear.
* Fan is silent almost always; it makes a predictable whirring when the processor is under load, but settle down quickly. No grinding, rubbing, clanking or whatever.
* Upgrading the fingerprint software to the latest version from Lenovo's site, fixed the hang-on-shutdown problem that has been reported.
* WiFi is rock solid.
* Upgraded all the Intel drivers using their utility. Note: couldn't update the graphics driver (4600) at Intel because the existing one is OEM, but it's perfectly functional as is.
* Turned off Lenovo's auto driver update. Everything is working fine, no need to fix it.
* Keyboard is nice and tight, springy and responsive. Touchpad is different, but it works. Not enough to get internet rage about.

So there you go.

 

Ya, my fan stops after a few seconds, but gets on often. Guess is not a big deal. I too love the keyboard and trackpad.

I have a problem, though. When I use my BT mouse I lose internet connection. Suddenly, it has the limited sign. Any workarounds?

 

Good stuff!

The fan on my older T420 pretty much runs constantly, albeit quietly, for anything except idling on the desktop. If you are running the Power Manager you can set the system cooling policy to silent - depending on your workload it may or may not noticeably affect performance, mostly because it will just prevent it from turbo-ing.

I can only suggest upgrading the wireless and BT drivers. Or downgrading them, I suppose. Given the BT and WiFi are on the same chip, that seems like the most likely solution.

 

BT and wireless drivers are the latest update.

 

CSM stands for, IIRC, compatibility support module. In other words, it's module that provides legacy BIOS interfaces on UEFI systems, without it it's impossible to get older operating systems to even boot. With CSM disabled machine can boot only in pure UEFI mode, with CSM enabled machine can boot either in BIOS or in UEFI mode. With CSM enabled OS can still access some old BIOS interfaces even if it boots in UEFI mode. Windows Vista and 7 for some reason still required CSM even when booting in UEFI mode, Windows 8 is the first Windows that can boot in pure UEFI with CSM disabled. Linux, to my knowledge, could boot without CSM since the time UEFI support was first introduced in kernel and bootloaders, probably because work was done to make it work on Mac EFI systems that never had CSM in the first place.

By default SATA controller operation is set to AHCI mode on modern systems. If you want to check you should be able to find that setting in "Config"/"Serial ATA (SATA)" in your ThinkPad's firmware settings.

Hopefully, this clears up things for you a bit, if not don't be shy to ask more - so long as you're trying to learn something there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

 

Browsing can be very intensive nowadays depending on the amount of JavaScript, the size of the DOM and the number of Flash animations.

 

Is there a way to let the PrtSc button act as right click?

 

If you mean as context menu button - yes, at least in Linux. You'll just have to change keyboard mapping either at run-time using something like "xmodmap keycode 107 = Menu" (or something like that, double check with man pages and xev output) or statically modifying /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev. If you use Windows I don't know of any relatively easy way to do that, but you should be able to create your own keyboard layout. If you're willing to go that route search for "What tools did you use to build the Windows layout?" on Programmer Dvorak

 

Well, its good to know that Lenovo's order tracking and shipping system hasn't improved over the last few years......

When I ordered my T440P the estimated ship date was Feb 13, which was fine. When it went RTM, it was updated to Feb 1. But that has passed and was obviously wrong, so I call for an update and they cannot provide an ETA at all.

For the docks, I missed the UPS shipment. That's fine, I make a call for it to be held at the depot, as I pretty much always do for UPS deliveries. Except Lenovo has placed restrictions on the shipment such that the packages are not allowed to be held at the depot unless the final delivery attempt has been made.

So they will make a delivery attempt today, fully knowing that I will not be at home.
Then they will make a delivery attempt tomorrow, fully knowing that I will not be at home.
Then I will be able to pick up from the depot on Monday.

Seriously, how stupidly inefficient can a shipping policy be? And the same is going to happen with my laptop as well......

 

You could sign up for that ups my choice thing and change the delivery destination... I signed up because of my notebook and Lenovo requiring a signature for every single individual box.. even the 10 extra trackpoint heads required a signature...

 

guys, what is the current LCD that the T440p's are shipping with LG or AUO?

Edit: ok, after reading most of the 37 pages of this thread, it seems the answer is LG. I don't suppose there is a touch screen option for T440p like there is for the T440s? Because the touch ones are AUO.

 

On the t430 I know the battery was so wobbly especially the 9 cell. How is the 9 cell on the t440p? Did they fix the issue on this model and make it extremely firm?

 

I thought there are both LG and AUO screens, whether touch or non-touch.

 

I am not sure about t440p, which is why I was asking, but for t440s the early non-touches were AUO, now all are LG. The touches are still AUO. Not sure about the low res (HD+) ones.

 

I have the 9 cell battery and don't feel any wobble on it.

 

awesome thank you

 

The T440p feels better and more firm than my T430s, which produces a lot of gnashing when I press on some places of the screen frame.

 

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Also does the t440p offer the quick charge like the 1st gen X1 Carbon? Asking because the charging ports look similar.

 

My company is starting to get the T440s/T440p models. So far, they are pretty ugh. The first T440p had a faulty trackpoint/trackpad out of the box that worked sporadically then totally stopped. Took way too long to get Lenovo to issue an RMA (had me do way too many things for troubleshooting). The Synaptics driver also seems to be totally random as far as what version the laptop ends up with, two T440p's next to each other each insisted on different versions with completely different interfaces. Since we are using a corporate image, I have been trying to shoehorn all the drivers in and it's just a big Rubik's Cube of trying different combos to get Device Manager cleaned up.

None of my users who are trying them like the new trackpad/trackpoint setups at all. The feedback has been overwhelmingly negative. The T430(x) was hardly a trackpad joy, but at least it was reasonable enough that people could use it or the trackpoint. Now my test users have to carry mice with them because the new interfaces are just so unbearable.

Lenovo if you're gonna rip off Apple just RIP OFF APPLE don't try to do your own thing with cheap plastic and hoping the driver can compensate for bad hardware decisions. *fist of anger*

 

But what is the alternative? What other laptops are there that have the same power under the hood? I would love to send my second T440p (which still has not been shipped!) back and choose a different brand...

And still don't have my money back from the first T440p...

 

Does anyone experience Limited Connection when using bluetooth mouse with 2x2 Thinkpad wireless LAN M.2 adapter??

 

If you need a quad core CPU in 14" form factor, T440p is the only business grade one, if I am not mistaken. Someone who have both T430 and T440p mentioned they have about the same form factor and similar build quality, since I have the T430, so I am not too worried. I will get one later for myself, fortunately I don't use touchpad that much.

 

I think it's mostly ok. It's bigger than before and works as any trackpad, but I always have a travel mouse with me. I always wonder how people can bear that "mouse shoving" with trackpads. Even very skilled ones are still slower than me with a regular mouse. But there are also people that confirm all input by clicking on "save" instead of using the "enter" key or that close all windows with the close icon.

 

I have a T430s. The build quality is compararable, although the body, partocularly the screen frame of the T440p feels better. The weight is ok, the IPS screen is nice. It has backlight bleeding, but that's not worth complaining about. The screen is very seldomly dark enough to see it.

And there is probably no other quad core 14 inch business laptop, for sure, there is no Dell right now.

Lenovo has identified the noisy fan problem and once that is resolved, it's a really good laptop.

 

My T440P arrived today. Initial impressions........ the trackpad is going to take some getting used to, but I can't for the life of me see what all the other complaints are about. The FHD screen is gorgeous (at least compared with my old T420), feels very solid (more single-pieces to the casing), runs cool and quiet, and performs like a dream with aftermarket RAM/SSD and a clean install of Windows.

More to follow. I might pop up a quick guide for my Windows 8.1 clean install procedure plus the EVO eDrive enablement; I've seen enough questions about it to warrant the effort......

 

how long did it take? It's been like 2 weeks and it's still stuck on released to manufacturing. ;(

 

I know of some Clevo based 13.1" notebook with the same i7 4900MQ and 16GB options, but I'm not hearing a lot of positive vibes coming from Clevo stuff...

I kind of chose Lenovo to be sure of a good and reliable company backing the product, but in my case it has been the worse experience ever. I seriously never have seen anything worse.

 

Good luck with that. Ordered mine on Jan 10th. Still at 'order in progress' several mails have been ignored. Giving it till the end of next week before canceling the order and going with something else.

 

Our complaints are not about trackPAD, they are about trackPOINT, that red knob in the middle of the keyboard and the associated with it buttons, or, rather, lack of thereof. Certain patches on Linux make the lack of dedicated physical buttons more bearable, but the ergonomics of it are definitely not as good as it used to be.

 

@Lex

Have you looked at the Alienware 14?

 

I have looked at it and thought it was the ugliest MF I ever saw (don't judge a book by it's cover, I know).

That, and the fact it's Dell, is the reason why I'm letting that one pass.

 

Ordered 27 Jan, Shipped 7 Feb, Arrived 13 Feb.

Possible reasons for speed, I seem to be the only person (on the forum, at least) who went for a dual core (i5-4330M), no Smart Card, no Fingerprint reader.

The lack of physical buttons affects both the same, at least for me. I used to use the pad with the top physical buttons.

 

Went with the same CPU, FHD screen and a fingerprint reader. Ordered Jan 10, still stuck in 'order in progress'. You'd hope that's not down to a fingerprint reader...

 

Seems odd that would be it, there must be something else. Here's my full spec list ordered in Canada, shipped from China:
i5-4330M, Intel graphics, FHD
4Gb RAM, 500Gb HDD
Win 8 Pro 64
Backlit US keyboard
Intel 7260 AC WLAN/BT
With camera, with SD card reader, no f/p reader, no smart card reader
6 cell battery, 65W charger
No accessories; they were ordered separately......

 

Same CPU with the Geforce GPU, FHD, 16GB ram, same intel networking, HDD, OS and battery.
The only difference is the fingerprint reader and the geforce.
Got a mail back from them this morning saying they had escalated my case so I hope to find out monday.

 

My money is on that.

 

Hi,

I just received my T440P, it's a fabulous computer !
Mine was built in October and has stickers saying that's it not a ship level system and that's it hasn't been approved so far by the FCC...

I only have one question, how am I supposed to remove the SIM card ?
I saw that's it's under the battery, but it's like stuck... I don't know if I'm supposed to push or pull ? Should I use some kind of tools ?

Thanks !

Guillaume

 

Perhaps it's like SD cards. You have to push it in a bit and then it jumps out.

 

sum-a-beeetch

 

I tried...
4 different persons tried on this machine actually without success.

Can someone confirm that it's the good way to do on the T440P ?
If so, I could try with a little bit more strength...

 

Check the manual (there are two .pdf files floating around somewhere), perhaps it's in there.

 

Not sure if i should post here, or start a new post. But does any T440p owner having IPS panel also got "bright spots" as described in the following link? These are not dead pixels.

X220 IPS display problem - weird bright spot on th... - Lenovo Community

I received my T440p on Christmas Eve in 2013, and recently I found two of these bright spots. I called Lenovo, and the representative agreed to have the LCD panel changed, and I have already received the depot box. But as I read more from the above link, I am a little bit concerned about the IPS panel and am surprised that the representative indeed agreed to change the panel for me.

Before the T440p, I previously had a T400 with a high-nit screen, and carried the laptop in a Northface big hot backpack almost everyday and never had the issue. i was carrying the T440p the same way as T400.

 

The IPS screen on my X220 has no bright spots.

 

Received a phonecall from my good friend at the Lenovo webshop (really absurd how many times I have spoken to this guy) and he told me my second (!) device was delayed because I have chosen an NFC function in the touchpad. There was a bad batch of these touchpads, so they're waiting for new ones.

He offered to cancel the order, but I told him I'm going to wait until I receive it and send it back if I don't like it. There's just no reliable alternative and the Clevo stuff isn't built for reliability I'm told (yeah right, what can be less reliable than Lenovo...).

For reference:

15th November 2013 - Ordered my first
13th January 2014 - Received it
16th January 2014 - Sent it back
19th January 2014 - Ordered new one
??? - Refund of first one received (email confirmation of refund 14th February 2014, A MONTH AFTER SHIPPING IT BACK! And of course it took a few phonecalls to get them to start looking for the item that was sent back.)
??? - Received second (wasn't even known by the webshop guy but he knew it would be two weeks delayed)

??? - Sent back the second (really hoping this isn't necessary)

Hoping to fill in the blanks really soon, but definitely not counting on it being this month...

 

the bright spot is caused by localised pressure. If you put heavy stuffs on the back of the LCD, it will cause the pressure spot.

 

The good and the bad of custom ordering. If you look at shipping delays across these forums, fancy new parts is often the problem

 

Thanks Lead_org.

I guess I have to be really careful now with the T440p once the LCD is replaced. I don't remember abusing it with heavy staff on the back of LCD. I treat it the same as my T400, and I have to say I am disappointed with T440p screen. Probably another prove how good my T400 was .

 

Wasn't the screen on the T400 just some poorly lit 1440x900 panel?

 

I don't know what was in the T400...... but compared with the 1600x900 panel in the T420, the LG FHD panel is light years ahead. So much better, it is just ridiculous.