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    T440s touch vs non-touch

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jimlee, Jan 30, 2014.

  1. jimlee

    jimlee Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered the T440s non-touch version which came with a LG display
    the display is very bad and the "spotlight" effect really bothers me, if I change sitting position, then the screen becomes very dark and impossible to read - which is very annoying

    I dont see people complaining about the AUO display which came with the touch model - so I am not sure if I have to return this and order the touch version? I am pretty sure I wont use the touch capability but I need a better display ;(
     
  2. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would return the machine. It seems outrageous Lenovo would continue sourcing from two suppliers with such obvious differences.
     
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    jimlee2 Notebook Enthusiast

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    does anyone know if you buy the touch model it is "guaranteed" that you will get the AUO display?
     
  4. vinuneuro

    vinuneuro Notebook Virtuoso

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    My 3rd non-touch unit also hasthe AUO. At this point it might be possible that LG has become the sole supplier for non-touch.
     
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    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm confused.
     
  6. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Of course if something were to happen with that single supplier, Lenovo would be unable sell any T440s. It's a notebook. I highly doubt it rises to the level of outrage.
     
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    vancamp Notebook Guru

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    You might be surprised regarding using the touch capability... it can be handy. I didn't think I would use it much and worried about the extra thickness and weight, but I find it easy to use for dragging things with large handles... like window frames and sometimes scrolling, and I don't really notice the extra weight. Still use the trackpoint for fine control (without a mouse), but touch was more useful than I expected.
     
  8. vinuneuro

    vinuneuro Notebook Virtuoso

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    It doesn't seem AUO is any longer supplying the non-touch screen based on my experience ordering three units over the last few months and all coming with the LG panel. I haven't seen anyone here receive an AUO non-touch display in a long time either.

    I got the AUO through warranty replacement a while ago and afaik all replacements have been AUO for others too. Don't know if LG has proliferated the replacement part stock too at this point, since the AUO were back ordered sometime.
     
  9. michaeldjcox

    michaeldjcox Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah cr*p. I was gambling on mine being AUO or being able to replace with an AUO under warranty.

    Is it a quality control issue with a subset of the LG displays or are they all universally bad?
     
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    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am not saying using multiple suppliers is outrageous. I am saying not have the same quality or anything close is.
     
  11. vinuneuro

    vinuneuro Notebook Virtuoso

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    There's a good chance you'll get an AUO if the screen is replaced. Everyone with warranty replacement have gotten it.

    The LG's are all bad.
     
  12. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    That's not outrageous either in my opinion. Lenovo has the right to sell whatever they want and you have the right to buy something else if you don't like it.
     
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    can someone please confirm that the touch screen version bought recently comes with the AUO display?
     
  14. yamaThink

    yamaThink Newbie

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    hi, I have received T440s with AUO touch screen but it is pretty dark and warm color. Really it is very beautiful color for Charm tile colorful menu with a high resolution. Only issue is still yellowish and warm although color/contrast was adjusted by intel graphic.
    We should look at the monitor once before this purchase at a Lenovo shop.
     
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    optix Newbie

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    How are the viewing angles, both horizontal and vertical?
     
  16. ozaz

    ozaz Notebook Geek

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    Which country are you in? Did you demand the AUO at point of sale or did you just get lucky?
     
  17. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Actually, I have to agree with Thor on this one. If a manufacturer sources two suppliers, it is incumbent upon the ODM to ensure that neither is substandard.
     
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    Kaso Notebook Virtuoso

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    Who does not disagree with Thor on this one? :D
     
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    jook33 Notebook Evangelist

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    not really, if something has such a high deviation in quality when comparing parts, it shouldn't even be considered as a compatible replacement, as someone who works for the big 3 as a purchaser, if I buy a single part from multiple suppliers that does not meet their OEM specs to meet necessary tolerances, I will get a new ***** torn for me and will result in a lot of issues for customers and manufacturers,even deaths maybe. they may not care as much at lenovo as i can not see how the lg panels even passed qc or their testing phases, maybe they thought they could slip it by or it could have been an issue with lg, regardless, lenovo should have owned up to it within the first weeks of it being released.
     
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    pejx Notebook Geek

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    I still don't really understand why someone would want a touchscreen on a laptop that doesn't have a "tablet mode", i.e. like the Yoga? When would you want to reach and touch the screen in preference to using the (quite big) touchpad? I don't get it...
     
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