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    T510 Screen Gridlines

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Black_and_White_Mage, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. Black_and_White_Mage

    Black_and_White_Mage Notebook Enthusiast

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    Am I the only one with that see grid lines on the T510 screen(the HD one)? I find the screen very irritating. I have called Lenovo about it and I was told that no one else have complained about the screen having grid lines. Also, I have the X200 and to me that screen (1280x800) is fine. I'm sending the T510 back and I'm debating on buy a new T510...
     
  2. tinyvane

    tinyvane Notebook Enthusiast

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    Have you ever taken a photo of that? I am T510, but found the screen no that kind of problem...
     
  3. MidnightSun

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    Maybe you will have better luck if you opt for a screen with a higher DPI (either the HD+ or FHD screen).
     
  4. Black_and_White_Mage

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    I'm up loading photos right now.
     
  5. Black_and_White_Mage

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    kiwikat Notebook Consultant

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    That'll happen with low res screens...

    There's nothing you can do about it other than getting a different screen.
     
  7. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Lol, your flash is too tough for the anti-glare screen :p
     
  8. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    How's your HD+ screen?
     
  9. kiwikat

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    It is excellent. Unless you move within inches of the screen, it looks very sharp. The colors aren't great, but anyone buying a thinkpad knows about that.

    I'm glad i got the HD+. It was the perfect price and has the perfect resolution for what I need it for.
     
  10. Black_and_White_Mage

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    At the time of purchase I didn't know about screen resolutions. I figured the screen would work okay. But this is just horrible.... How can any company release a laptop with this type of screen?
     
  11. kiwikat

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    Because it is cheap ;)
     
  12. Black_and_White_Mage

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    But the consumer grade laptops have better screen...I don't see gridlines on other people laptops...Also, why was the screen labeled as "HD", that is very deceptive of Lenovo, IMHO
     
  13. Aikimox

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    Those are custom made grids for those who want to read between the lines :p
     
  14. MidnightSun

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    That is the new standard naming scheme for 16:9 screens, used by pretty much all OEMs:
    HD = (720p capable) 1366x768
    HD+ = 1600x900
    FHD = (1080p capable) 1920x1080
     
  15. Mutnat

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    Yeah, just like with HDTVs. 720p TVs (usually 1366x768) are called "HD" since 720p (1280x720) is an HD resolution, and 1080p TVs are called "Full HD" or "FHD".

    I should also have added: that image Black_and_White_Mage posted is rather awful. I can see why you're frustrated. Heck, my mother's $550 Dell Inspiron 15 with a 15.4" 720p screen (I believe it's 1280 x 800) certainly doesn't have that issue.
     
  16. cn_habs

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    1. It's probably defective.
    or
    2. Some driver isn't properly installed.

    I don't even see gridlines on my 15.4 with WXGA. I'd send the pic to Lenovo Customer Service and ask for an exchange.
     
  17. Black_and_White_Mage

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    I will send it to them on Monday. Right now I'm still using it though.
     
  18. drake437

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    Try to boot in safe mode....does it change then?
     
  19. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    yes this sort of problem is hard to explain, i personally had this problem on a R61, and it took three rounds of repair before they would change the LCD.

    This is due to poor QA/QC process by the LCD manufacturer, my one was a Samsung WXGA 15.4 inch LCD.
     
  20. Aikimox

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    Ok, how bout disassembling the system and re-seating the LCD connectors, just in case ;)
     
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    It look like the problem is the the anti-glare filter.
     
  22. Black_and_White_Mage

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    K2001, to bad the folks at the repair center didn't know this. Maybe they would have returned a FIXED computer after having it for 3.5 weeks! I'm beyond pissed of at this company.
     
  23. lead_org

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    this should not be done when your laptop is in warranty, as the laptop warranty could be voided due to user induced damages.
     
  24. Aikimox

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    Many things should be done or not done according to rules and regulations, and one of them is that the tech guys coming to your house to do the gob, should be trained enough not to destroy the machine. And in my experience, this is very seldom the case. Most of the time techs damage additional components in the process. So my rule of thumb now is to do the job myself while letting the techs watch and learn (in some cases). I let them take the credits for the job done fast and they let me keep the warranty.
    This however, shouldn't be done if you're not skilled and confident enough. But it's well worth it if you want to learn your system, as you can make the it serve you longer (changing the thermal compound alone with a higher quality one and better application method than the sloppy factory job can reduce your max CPU and GPU temps by 10-20C)
    So yeah, I'd definitely re-seat the cables and see if it helps before wasting time on the phone trying to get the LCD or the entire system replaced.
     
  25. Black_and_White_Mage

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    I don't have tech skill to try doing something like that. A brand new laptop was shipped to me with a bad screen. I will just take the replacement.