T60 Flexview Shipped with ...

I just got around to checking the parts list on the T60 flexview I ordered 6/29.

It looks like it shipped with recovery DVDs and I'm guessing a Vista Anytime upgrade

Came with a ALPS keyboard, which I'm happy with (never tried a NMB)

I didn't have the choice for bluetooth, so I didn't think it would have it, but does this mean it will?

Galt, Leon, and others that ordered recently, maybe you can compare...

 

Mine will arrive in a few days, so I'm going to guess on the following:

Bluetooth - I didn't have an option during ordering for Bluetooth either. But this line is there in my config:
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
I think "VBB" means "doesn't come with", or rather "remove this item from the default config". I.e, default config has bluetooth, but mine will not.

Keyboard: I think I have the NMB
42T3143 KEYBOARD FRU

Recovery Discs: I ordered mine with XP Home. There is no entry for recovery cd/dvd in my order details.

EDIT: On second thought, here's my full parts listing
2613CTO LENOVO THINKPAD T60 2613 - NO CPU
42R9190 VBB NO INT.WIFI WL 3RD ANTENNA
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
42R9315 SBB INTEL CORE 2DUO PROC T7200
62P4918 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP HOME
42R9281 SBB MS WINXP HOME US ENGLISH
42R9422 SBB 15.0-SXGA+ TFT.FV W/ WVA
42R9328 SBB ATIRADEON MOB. X1400 128MB
41W2057 VBB 512MB PC2-5300 667MHZ1DIMM
39T6476 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
41W1611 SBB ULTRANAV - TRACKPNT&TOUCHP
41W5778 SBB 120GB HDD 5400RPM
41W5783 SBB DVD REC 8X DUAL LAYER UB
41W1685 SBB 11ABGWIFI WL LAN USEULAANZ
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
39T6442 SBB COUNTRY PACK NORTH AMERICA
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
42R9212 SBB LANG.PACK US ENGLISH
41W1601 SBB PACKAGING US 15
27R1540 SBB ATI LABEL
39T6440 SBB 56K V.92 DESIGNED MODEM
41W1711 SBB CLEAR PLATE T60 WLAN+BT
41W1721 SBB FCC LABEL
41W1749 SBB GEO LABEL US WLAN BT
41W1774 SBB LOGO PLATE
41W2082 SBB MS LBL INTEL DUAL CORE
41W1738 SBB MT 2613 SYSTEM LABEL
42T7135 SBB INTEL LABEL CORE-2
41W2070 SBB 512MB PC2-5300 667MHZ MEM.
41C9170 LENOVO THINKPLUS EXTENDED SERVICE AGREEMENT - 3 YEARS - PICK-UP AND RETURN

 

Actually, take the serial number from the lenovo order status page and then go to parts lookup here

That will give you the actual FRU number which you can search google w/ or lookup the parts in the maintenance manual

 

Thanks, I just did that.

Looks like keyboard is NMB for sure. And for bluetooth, I have the same entry as you do
41W6707 0000000 SHELL TOP 15.0 SXGA+ IPS TFT, BLUETOOTH
No idea if that means it has bluetooth or not. =(

And no recovery dvds either. But that doesn't bother me =)

 

Oh CRAP-

My story just keeps getting worse and worse (still fighting them overcharging me), because mine shipped yesterday- copied pn and sn into warranty/parts lookup:

Triple checked it. No clue why, but can't say I'm surprised about anything at this point.

 

I read a post somewhere where this happened to someone else. They couldn't find their laptop serial/model on the warranty/parts website.

That guy said he called up Lenovo, and they had it fixed the next day. He could then go to the website and see everything.

I suggest you call them.

 

Leon, hopefully everything will be resolved soon!

Galt, I'd much rather try out your NMB keyboard then have recovery DVDs shipped XPP is the first thing I'm putting on anyway...

 

Ok, I emailed them about it. So hopefully it gets fixed. But I have to say whether I get discs, or have my keyboard of choice (Chicony) or otherwise is the LEAST of my worries at this point.

THey've submitted the "price match" lol as if paying the amount I checked out at is some type of request pending approval. Should be against the law.

 

Having thought a little more about it, I'm going to venture a guess that
41W6707 0000000 SHELL TOP 15.0 SXGA+ IPS TFT, BLUETOOTH
actually refers to the actual lid/lcd casing itself (notice 'SHELL' wording). Which then means that there is room for it to accommodate bluetooth, but doesn't actually include it.

Its akin to:

Laptop lid has ability to house a 15" ips display and bluletooth.



*bluetooth sold separately

 

I'd recommend you actually call them. Its much faster, and so far their customer service has been very effective for me (had to cancel an order that I changed my mind on)

 

And if you've been through what I've been through, you'd recommend having documentation of what they tell you. Glad to hear they've treated you well though.

 

it will have Bluetooth....I ordered a t60 flexview for my wife when they became available again and it has BT.

 

Sweet gjg... I was wondering why it didn't have the option to upgrade. I hope your right! I will be able to tether my moto v3xx via bluetooth

 

SERIOUSLY?

I didn't even see it as an option when configuring, and I know I would have deselected it. So you automatically get BT?!

NICE. (though i'll never use it- only time i'd ever use bt on a notebook is w/a mouse if it lacked a trackpoint, NA here!)

 

Yes it will have BT.

But hate the Alps. That's too bad. Much rather have the NMB or even the Chicony. We have heaps of alps keyboard here as castaways. The odd peron likes alps, but most hate them and it doesn't feel like a thinkpad keyboard imo

No problem tho... just cancel, and then re-order and re-check. Alternatively, you can buy an NMB keyboard and upgrade it yourself.

 

Thats interesting b/c I have a Z60m w/ Chicony and I'd much rather have a ALPS. I'd like to try a NMB sometime tho...

 

Huh. Last time I was able to access parts lookup was available right when it shipped.

 

That's funny. No way is z60m and t60 keyboards interchangeable huh? Because I too have a z60m w/my keyboard of choice in it- but I don't even know what I have yet in my flexview.

 

Yes they are interchangeable. Same keyboard.

 

wow z60m and t60 interchangeable? then we're both golden. what a coincidence.

Of course, for you, if you don't like your nmb it'd be easy to find someone to trade for an alps.

 

I dont know about you but I dont think any keyboard is capable of making a Z60m into a pleasant experience.

The great news is that you'll think your 15" flexview is small and light compared to the Z60m LOL (also the screen will be so much better).

You'll really like the improvements with your new one, i think

 

Yeah... the Z is a tank. My dad uses it, so it's mainly stationary so the weight issue wasn't a big deal. I loved my t60ws cept for the screen ;(...

 

I actually like it, but yeah Z60m is a beast. ~225 in^3 vs 180 in^3 in the 15" t 60.

Only burn is, 15" t 60's lid is still plastic unlike 14.1" (magnesium). I think this is the reason my z's screen is out. How was the lid cover on your t60ws? Any stiffer than the Z?

 

Sorry, it is actually a z61m (whats the difference anyway?).

It has the titanium lid so it was quite strong. The lid cover on the t60ws was a bit flexible in the middle but quite sturdy. WS lid covers are a bit weaker...

 

I have tried Chicony, ALPS, NMB, and "new" Chicony (Chicony rebadged as NMB by IBM parts).

The new Chicony is an improvement over the old one, but it is still kind of soft and clackity. The NMB has a really nice feel, but the keys bottom out a little hard. The ALPS has the great feel of the NMB keyboard but with a slightly softer landing - I think it's perfect. Guess that makes me odd.

 

haha sounds like you're and expert on this issue Phil, so I defer judgement to you!

 

They finally uploaded my parts lookup... it's a chicony, so no need for swapping with the z60m.

Now if they just fix the glitch and charge me what I checked out at, I'll actually keep it. I've given them everything requested and then some- screenshot of order confirmation showing correct price, put together an independent quote of identical configuration with same price, and even got fatwallet to forward the transaction amount that lenovo sent them for cashback purposes, which also reflected the correct price. Trifecta of an airtight case, but nothing will surprise me at this point.

In the meantime, I'll just have to find the willpower to keep from breaking the seal just to get a look at FLEXVIEW!



We fixed, the glitch.

 

you'll be ok i imagine

 

I'm subjecting the rest of you to more sparkle stories I found on lenovoblog. I'm optimistic, understand- just not going to be the only one reading this filth while waiting on my flexview (sorry):

 

haha, thanks Leon. Mine is suppose to be here Monday so we will see

If I don't like it, I'm just going to box it back up and reorder a t61...

 

Yea, please let us know.

 

My parts list is up.
I'm getting a Chicony.

 

Are you cool with that?

 

Hmmm...
Why shoudn't I?

 

Just wondering... some dislike it... I like the ALPS over the chicony, but have never seen a NMB...

 

I’ve never tried either of them, so I don't really have a point of reference.

 

Ahhhh, is this your first thinkpad?

 

That's right.

 

Does chicony still click?

 

Hmm we have a bunch of T60's with Chicony screens at IBM (14.1" 4:3 format) and I like them fine.

No clicking.

But I have found that on the 15" format, the keyboard sounds a bit hollow in some places, i guess because in that larger form factor there is some empty spots underneath part of the keyboard.

As for the screen, dont worry, some of you sound like hypochondriacs LOL. It will be light-years better than the crappy T61 screens. I've used both, and compared them side by side, so believe me. .. I wish I owned a flexview, but they wont give me one because we only get 14" or 12" to work out of the office with. As for the screen being LG instead of IDTech (no longer exists), many ppl here *want* an LG haha

 

How could it not be an upgrade from the t61 display? But nice try- because I first read of sparkle from the thinkpad. com threads that YOU linked!

 

Received the Flexview today. I've ordered 3 t60 wides -- all came with crappy samsung panels (both WSXGA+ and WXGA). I haven't seen an LG which is suppose to be much better.

But the flexview is SO much better than my old t60 WSXGA+ samsung (as it should be). I'm amazed It's a good notch and a half brighter than my old panel. Whites are actually white (not grayish), and of course the viewing angles are amazing.

So far, I like the SXGA+ verticle space better than the WSXGA+ I had. I never did a lot of side by side windows so 4:3 is better for me. It's been three weeks since I sold my T60, so in the meantime I was using an old 15.4 XGA toshiba -- my eyes are still adjusting again to the high resolution, but the pixels per inch is very pleasing.

I don't like the speaker placement on the 15" 4:3 vs the 15.4 WS. But I will use headphones mostly so not a big deal.

Vista of course is always bogging down, so installing ubuntu and XPP will be the first thing I do tomorrow.

It's been 3 weeks, but this t60 doesn't feel any heavier than my t60 ws. It is a bit thicker. As previously stated, the 4:3 screen is very strong, I can't make any ripples (t60ws I could).

Although the parts list showed a recovery DVD, there wasn't any. Also, the ALPS feels just like my old one so I'm happy. Also, it shipped w/ vista so the windows key is updated.

Thinkpad A/B/G definately gets better reception than my old Intel did.

It's been running on my lap, and doesn't seem any wammer than my t60ws, in fact it is hardly warm at all.

All in all, I am very glad I sold my t60 ws and got the flexview. I doubt I will return this for a t61 SXGA+.

I'm in love!

EDIT: Now, I just have to decide on a warranty. 3-4 year depot warrenty, or 3 year accidental warranty. Two years of college left leave me leaning towards the accidental...

EDIT: The only other thing I've noticed is a creaky bezel left of the keyboard. Right is fine, but left needs to be reseated and it should quit creaking...

EDIT: I am much happier with the Thinkpad Wireless... Intel was always dropping/reconnection... Hasn't happened once yet

 

Glad to hear you like it.
Mine is still on a UPS delivery truck (for two days already. UPS - f #$#^%$&%$&*&^*^%*^#%&^*!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

 

Yeah, I was going crazy today. Yesterday the UPS man came by our sub division at 11:45am, so I was waiting this morning. I had to be somewhere at 4:30pm. I just was leaving at 4:20pm when he pulled in! Just in the nick of time.

 

What thinkpads have you had before unhooked?

 

None.

 

Wow you are going to love it. The keyboard/trackpoint was the most missed while I was w/o a thinkpad since June 24th

 

Yea, the wait is driving me crazy.
It took Lenovo just 4 days for my order to be built and shipped to Southern California.
But the the men in brown shorts are totally screwing it up.

 

Still not delivered?

UPS is taking a bit longer with delivery of this one than they did with my 61, which actually came early. 60 looks like it will be at least a day late, judging by when it hit kentucky.

Not that I can even OPEN it when it gets here, at least not until I SEE the $270 they say has been credited back. Have this confirmed in an email, so I'm not as worried about it now. I'll feel better when this is all over.

Too bad about the creak chadwick- is it at least as solid as the z 61m? My z60 is a flexer, can't see it being worse than it. At least the display delivers. I can't believe you were 3/3 on getting samsung panels. You were due some good luck.

EDIT- lol I just checked again and somehow it's on schedule again. They must have teleported it here from KY.

 

Just got mine (finally).
Perfectly assembled - no creaking, even gaps all around.
It came with a 512MB stick. Took it out and put 3GB in without even turning the machine on.
The laptop also came without the recovery DVD.
What's up with that?
The FlexView screen looks real nice for a notebook display.
Unbelievable viewing angles, nice colors.

It's not as bright as I've expected it to be though.
But can't say for sure since I don't have another laptop at the moment to compare against.
And I'm still playing with the settings.
What realy strange though, that the brightness adjustment scale is extremely limited.
Only 5 bars.
The laptops fan is very quiet, barely can hear it when it runs full blast while running intensive tasks.
It got pretty warm under high CPU load. (on the bottom where the processor is).
The rest of the notebook stayed cool.
The right palm rest gets just barely warm, no complaints here (100GB 7200 rpm HD).