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    T60 viewing angles question

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by drwho9437, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    So I am considering getting a T60, and would like to hear some feedback from owners out there.

    I currently am typing this from my tiny Dell 300m, which I really have never been happy with. Its still ticking but only really because I have pretty good soldering skills. One thing I have never been happy with is the screen. It has an arch like backlight variation in brightness and truly bad viewing angles. So the part I wonder about on the T60 the most is the screen. Because I know the keyboard is good.


    I know all about IPS monitors, because I went out of my way to get one for my desktop LCD. So the 15" Flexview certainly would be good, but its pricey. So I'm wondering what the 15" regular and perhaps more importantly the 14.1 sxga are like.

    I think the 14.1 really would be overall a better laptop if it has OK view angles etc. As it would save me 230 dollars and weight and battery life. 14.1 coming from 12.1 will still be very large :)...

    So please any owners of the T60 or those who have used them a lot. Let me know the screen size/type and your thoughts. Preference to recent versions as sometimes they change screens in batches.

    14.1 SXGA would be the most interesting. Thanks.
     
  2. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    well, to me, I dont really want a 15 inch screen.( I am not saying flex view), if Lenovo has flex view on 14" screen, I will buy it even it is expensive.
    if you really don't care about weight of ur laptop, yes, go for IPS.
    I bring laptop with me everyday, so I can't stand that wieght on my back.
     
  3. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    First off no IPS on 14.1 right now.

    The two points were: I don't like weight or short battery life so 14.1 is preferable. However, 14.1 is only ok if the screen is decent.

    IPS is much more expensive. So again if viewing angles are ok, I'd just go with non IPS.

    I assume they are all TN displays.
     
  4. ronan_zj

    ronan_zj Notebook Evangelist

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    I am using T42,with SXGA, now, and I am very enjoying my screen. even games, i choose 1400 resolution. I can not find any point which I dont like.
    compared to SONY, HP screen, mine maybe not that bright, but decent.
    I have ordered my new T60 also, it still come with SXGA. IF I find a dead pixel and can not return it, I will be pissed becaue dead pixel is unacceptable on this expensive price.
     
  5. The Oatman

    The Oatman Notebook Consultant

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    I spent the last few weeks debating this decision. I ended up going with the flexview but would probably sell the system and get a 14" wide screen IPS if it became available. I chose flexview for the better color reproduction and contrast more than the great viewing angles.
     
  6. marlinspike

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    Just FYI the battery life on the 15" is still fine. Doing everything possible to save power (screen brightness down, cpu settings and all that to save power) I can take notes in Word for 6.5 hours. Turn on wireless and it's still 5-5.5 hours.
     
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    Mine is 14.1 SXGA+.
    Bright and crystal clear to me.

    Compared to HP brightview laptop LCD I used before, the LCD is just a little bit darker and narrower view angel.

    Some Bestbuy stores sell Thinkpad x60 , you might to look the screen to get some sense.
     
  8. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I seriously wish the manufactures would just provide the raw data on all the parts they use. I guess this would detract from branding though...
     
  9. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    as of right now, there are no wide screen ips screens, and not likely to be any soon, but you never know what the future holds.
     
  10. The Oatman

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    I know, and that is a shame too since someone who gets IPS might be doing lots of photo editing and widescreen is just better for that.
     
  11. marlinspike

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    People like to say that. It's not always true, just ask sports shooters (who almost exclusively shoot in the vertical orientation).
     
  12. The Oatman

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    True, for portraits and sports a 4:3 display might be better but I think for most other types widescreen is preferable. I especially like to stitch together large panoramas so widescreen would be ideal although not a must.
     
  13. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Anyone else actually going to comment on my question and not the details of tangential issues (no offense) but really what I am after is if the high resolution 14.1 is a good panel. I've seen good TNs and awful ones.
     
  14. The Oatman

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    I think they are using two different manufacturers for the high res 14.1 panels now (someone else might have more details on this). I think that one of those was Samsung and they had a problem where everything had a pink overcast. Kinda sucks how it's still a crapshoot even when you custom configure, hell the keyboards aren't even all ALPS these days.
     
  15. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Sorry I don't understand the keyboard reference. I mostly want a thinkpad for the durability and simple good looks.

    If there were a 14.1 IPS there would be nothing to think about, that is what I'd get. I'm use to having a sub 3 lbs Dell 300m with me. The jump to 6 lbs is HUGE. However, the thing I hate most about my 300m is the screen. I take pictures and well any photo editing has to be done on my main computer.

    I'd be interested in the true total weight of 15" with AC adapter. I have the published numbers. The published AC adapter weight is .8 (90W) .57 (65W), 6 cell .7, 9 cell 1.0.

    Lastly is the 65W AC adapter enough for the 15", both 65 and 90W are offered in the accessory list. I could leave an AC adapter at work, get the 6 cell to save travel weight.
     
  16. SkiBunny

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    The X60 screen is better quality than the non-flexview versions of the T60 screen.
    Notwithstanding that the SXGA+ is slightly sharper.
    These are different manufacturers in many cases.

    The X60 screen is too small tho.

    I dont know if i would look at the X60 to judge what a T60 might look like, for the screen i mean.