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    T60WS users

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Nan Na, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. Nan Na

    Nan Na Notebook Enthusiast

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    Are you guys happy with graphic card ATI x1400 and WSXGA resolution and Vista?
    Are they good combinations?
    I think 128M dedicated memory is not goo enough for VISTA. what do you think?
    Please drop some your words for me.
     
  2. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    The x1400 will run Vista's "Aero glass" interface, if that's what you are concerned about. If you are a gamer, the x1400 is a "middle-class" card, and will handle moderate gaming. For more graphical information, see the GPU Guide.

    I have an x1300/SXGA+ on a 14.1" and I am happy with it, but resolution is obviously in the eye of the beholder (depends on each person)
     
  3. Nan Na

    Nan Na Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for quick response.
    That was my main concern, aero glass.
    I am not gamer.. but I will use CAD, rendering and graphic programs very often.
     
  4. Daidojih

    Daidojih Notebook Consultant

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    the x1400 is a decent video card... alot better than my previous ati mobility 7500 ...32mb :p
     
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    tay Notebook Consultant

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    Have you used an x1400 with Vista? What makes you think it is not enough dedicated memory?

    Also, people discount the level graphics cards are at today. Yes, the x1400 is a middle of the road card. But there really isn't anything on the market that it can't run. It won't run Oblivion on high graphics, but neither can the x1600 really (I tried with my Acer 8204, was beautiful running around with tweaked settings, but fights dropped the FPS to 20). It can handle Vista's Aero features fine.
     
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    chaosrl Notebook Consultant

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    It's fine for Vista Aero Glass, as that's what i'm running right now. I have also heard that the GMA950 is good enough to run Aero decently. The WSXGA+ resolution is great. Not sure how well it'll run CAD/rendering, as I don't do any of that myself. Someone else can chime in for that! :)
     
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    You may want to look into a workstation class card if you will be doing heavy rendering/CAD stuff. The t60p offers a FireGL v5200 which will be much better for design work. My Mom runs AutoCAD (only 2d floorplans though) on a slot PIII 500/192 MB RAM and some 4x AGP card. >_>
     
  8. mliu

    mliu Notebook Consultant

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    tay, chill out. the x1400 can't even play red alert 2, a game that's 5 years old and requires 32 mb of ram...
    the x1400 lags when i played that on my t60 widescreen. for goodness sake the only thing the x1400 can play is perhaps solitare, or maybe yahoo pool.
     
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    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    mliu,
    The x1400 can certainly play RA:2. I would recommend you learn your facts before making baseless statements.

    NBR does not tolerate insults or flames.

    Keep this discussion civil, and on-topic, or it will be locked.
     
  10. drwho9437

    drwho9437 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Ummm the GMA 950 runs Aero... The X1400 should be fine...

    edit: what kind of CAD is always helpful to mention.
     
  11. Daidojih

    Daidojih Notebook Consultant

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    Just ignore mliu... he is just trying to rub everyone the wrong way. Just look at other posts by him :p ... well that or he has a poor grasp on reality.

    If you are doing heavy renderings and whatnots I suggest going for the firegl series in the T60. Though the x1400 should handle the above decently too.
     
  12. mliu

    mliu Notebook Consultant

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    look kids, i returned my t60 with x1400 and core 2 duo beacuse it coudln't play red alert 2, no joke.
    the game obviously could run, but it was choppy and laggy...perhaps it wasn't the graphics card but the cd drive...once in a while the game would almost "freeze", then the cd would spin, and the game would resume, but not for long. soon enough, the game would lag horribly again.

    i have my facts and am stating my experience, which i believe should be typical, as other than the fact that ra2 was running laggy, horribly so, the machine was great.

    my ibm coudln't game a horsewinkle.
     
  13. Daidojih

    Daidojih Notebook Consultant

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    If your being serious about your problem:
    Have you tried patching RA2 or updating your video driver?

    What I mean by updating your video driver is uninstalling your current one - restart - install new one - restart.

    *edit*

    If you want a video card (on a thinkpad T series) reference I could play RA2 on my old T41 with ATI mobility 7500 32VRAM.

    The problem you are describing is definitely not because of the shortcomings of the video card but rather something on the software side (or cd-drive/cd)
     
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    Why do you believe that was typical? I tend to believe that something was either wrong with your machine or your drive, because I can run Half-Life 2 on low settings relatively smoothly. I've also played a tiny bit of Rappelz, a free MMORPG that's certainly more graphics heavy than RA2. While the x1400 isn't a great card, it's not bad either. And to the OP: it's DEFINITELY good enough to run Aero. As people have said earlier, if you are doing heavy rendering stuff, go with the T60p and the FireGL card.
     
  15. Daidojih

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    my x1400 can run HL2 @ 1680x1050 with max settings :p what driver are you using? (I think HDL is disabled though).

    Again for reference:
    My old 7500 could run:
    HL2 on 1024x768 low settings
    Rappelz 1024x768
    Gunz 1024x768
    Guild Wars 1024x768 med settings
    WoW 1024x768 low settings
    Silkroad 1024x768
    NWN 1024x768 max settings
    KOTOR 1024x768
    RA2 1024x768
    D2

    etc, etc.

    So with that ancient card as a guideline its easy to see that the hardware (of the x1400) is more than capable of running RA2
     
  16. mliu

    mliu Notebook Consultant

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    well i haven't updated my video driver nope, don't know how didn't know that that would be necessary.

    i just can't think of what was up with me not even being able to play a decent game of ra2 on that computer. game was all updated and patched as well. i would like to think that there was something funny with the cd drive (ie. it spun too slow) but it's difficult for me to conclude that...but whenever it lagged, the cd drive would pick up then the game would run fine for a little bit, then would lag again horibly then pick up when the dvd drive went for a spin :S. u guys experience that befores?
     
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    Hmmm, I should have the most recent settings, as I just received this computer on Monday. I'll check updates and play some more when I have time. Do you know how it handles F.E.A.R.?
     
  18. Daidojih

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    @ chaosrl:
    Sorry, I don't know how it handles F.E.A.R -- I'll give it a try when I have the chance.

    @ mliu:
    Updating your video driver makes a _huge_ difference. For example lets take the game NWN2 with x1400.

    Using the windows update provided drivers NWN2 crashed/lagged like crazy. The loading screen for NWN2 even had the 'unable to load 3d textures' in blue, yellow, red, and green written all over it. Occasionally I was getting the blue screen of death because the video driver did something that the T60 didn't like at all. (it was the driver reaching into non existent memory -- might be a hypermemory issue but w/e ).

    When I actually took the time to update (and switch ) the driver to Omega Drivers (based on the latest ATI catalyst) not only did my performance increase but also all those blue screens, 3d missing textures, and crash issues.

    I consider updating your video driver a must if you want to play games.

    As for the cd drive issue (I am using a DVD drive which works perfectly atm) I only had that problem with scratched cds when watching a video from it. Check your cd/dvd.