T60p vs T60

My school is having a promotion and there are a banch of Thinkpads that I can choose from.
I am mainly considering two models.
T60 2007BP-1 $1350
Processor / Chipset Core Duo T2500 (Intel 945PM) (2GHz)
L2 Cache 2MB
Display 14.1" TFT (SXGA+ / 1400 x 1050)
Memory 2 x 512MB DDR2 667MHz
Graphics ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 Dedicated 128MB
Hard Disk 80GB SATA (5400rpm)
Optical Drive DL Multi Burner
Communications 10/100/1000 LAN, 802.11 a/b/g, Bluetooth, Modem
Ports / Media 3 x USB 2.0, VGA, Audio
Battery / Battery Life 6-cell / Up to 4.3 Hours
Weight 5 lbs / 5.5 lbs+
Dimension ( WxDxH ) 12.4" x 10" x 1" - 1.2"
OS(Eng./Trad. Chi) Windows XP Professional
Pointing Device TrackPoint & TouchPad
Others Free weight saver
International Warranty*# 3-year carry-in (1-year battery)

T60p 2007-CA2 $1790
Processor / Chipset Core Duo T2500 (Intel 945PM) (2GHz)
L2 Cache 2MB
Display 15" TFT (UXGA / 1600 x 1200)
Memory 1 x 1GB DDR2 667MHz
Graphics ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 Dedicated 256MB
Hard Disk 100GB SATA (7200rpm)
Optical Drive DL Multi Burner
Communications 10/100/1000 LAN, 802.11 a/b/g, Bluetooth, Modem
Ports / Media 3 x USB 2.0, VGA, Audio
Battery / Battery Life 9-cell / Up to 5.2 Hours
Weight 6.2 lbs / 6.7 lbs+
Dimension ( WxDxH ) 13.2" x 10.6" x 1.2" - 1.4"
OS(Eng./Trad. Chi) Windows XP Professional
Pointing Device TrackPoint & TouchPad
Others Finger Print Reader
International Warranty*# 3-year carry-in (1-year battery)

I will be programing a lot and maybe run a few games such as WoW.
They will all fit my reqirement but which one do you think is better in terms of performance/price?

 

Unless money is no issue, the less you spend, the better, because stuff goes obsolete in a year and you'll wanna upgrade in 2 yrs, 3 max.

That said, the 15-inch sreen is really nice (because of the IPS high density and FlexView wide angle.... the 14 inch stinks in comparison). But it's heavier, less portable. I would prefer it in SXGA+ over UXGA because UXGA makes some things too tiny - some of which cannot be changed (for example, this forum when browsed using IE).

Maybe you can pick a lighter, less costly 15" SXGA+ model (one i weighed at ibm was 5.94 pounds)

 

Unfortunately these two models are the best ones I can get.
Other choices are like, 14.1" SXGA+ T60 with 1300X, t60 with GMA950, Z series which I hate a lot, X series etc.

1600*1200 screen is really a nice thing to have.
Will things be smaller on 15" UXGA than on 14" SXGA+?

 

GrA, You are Hong Kong student (HKUST?) right? How long is the deal will last? I may ask my friend from HKUST to get the T60p for me. It is a really good deal (same config: 2623ddu cost at least 2200 USD in US when on sale).

For your question, depend if you are going to bring the laptop around. That 1 pound difference is alot when you travel from Home to school in MTR or bus. 1600x1200 is nice, but you may not need it. Also the graphic card, (I am not sure about this) I heard there is some game has problem with it (I meant the FireGL card). You may want to check with other thread to see if the problem still exist.

Have fun with your shopping and hopefully you can tell me when is the deal gonna end.

 

How could they get prices so low? Government subsidies?

 

YES, intolerably small for some websites which do NOT magnify when you increase text size in both IE and firefox.
(you wont be able to read what you're typing into this textarea!)

14.1 SXGA+ = 15372 pixels per square inch
15" UXGA = 17778 pixels per square inch

Why do you hate Z61?? Can get WXGA+ (1680x1050) and FireGL card now, and it weighs less. Z has firewire & s-video ports, unlike the T60, but i think it's missing expresscard slot hmm.

 

i dunno, some of those are lower than employee price

 

for the flexview itself id pay more but seems like u get a few more goodies with faster/bigger harddrive, larger battery, and only 1 stick of ram, leaving room for a future memory upgrade. the size and weight difference is negligible, i find the t60p to be very portable.

indulge yourself, the t60p is a fantastic deal, especially with your school price

 

I agree it's a good price (they both are) and that the flexview is a huuuuge plus.

But i also agree with the person who raised the issue about portability... it's not the weight, it's the bulk--- the t60p is 36% bigger! I have lugged both around, and even with a car and thinkpad case, the extra bulk sucks... in a backpack walking to & from school, i think i'd ditch both of these and get an x60s - there's a good reason why the X60s is sold out and costs more than T60... supreme portability.

 

I don't think such low prices make sense in the market. I don't think Lenovo will in its right mind sacrifice its profits. So I think the customers actually pay for the low prices indirectly.

I looked around. The situation could be absurd. Every student every year is entitled to one special-priced laptop. So students who don't need one laptop every year resell their laptops for profits, in violation of the ownship requirements. My reading is, this questionable reselling somehow compensates for their (indirect) losses and if they don't get into it, they simply lose more.

The prices are tempting indeed.

 

hmm i cant find the model in the worldwide database or tabook

 

That's true, I heard people did that. Some people outside of school actually buy quotas from students for a reasonable amount of money. I think they should be bladed more since that's where the story starts.

 

hmmm.. I got sticked to 4:3 and can't get used to any wide screen displays. Maybe it is because I write programs a lot, and when you do that, you need to go up and down very often, which means the more vertical space you have, the better. And wide screen only give you a larger screen with less vertical space. It is a waste of horizontal space and wouldn't help.

 

yup i know, but wsxga+ (1680x1050) gives you same vertical size as sxga+ (1400x1050)

 

i'm too considering T60p.. the prices is really tempting... at first i'm quite sure with T60p, however, the Z61m is quite tempting too... it priced the same with T60... does the promo only for HKUST? or also apply for HKU or CUHK??

 

anyway... one of my consideration is that, maybe i can opted for Z61m or T60 this year... it costs USD400 less and then i can get a newer Merom based next year... i'm entitled for next year's school program...

 

I am leaving soon.
If you want to buy one next year, just use whatever you have at the moment. Otherwise you waste a lot of money.
I think HKU and CUHK have similer programs for you.