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    T61 - Welcome to bluescreen heaven.

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jjfcpa, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. jjfcpa

    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    Honestly, I can't not ever remember getting blue screens with any recent laptop while just doing nothing.

    I just came home from work where I use my T61 docked and started it up after a complete shutdown. I no sooner loaded Firefox and was reading an email and it blue screened. How frustratingly unforgivable.

    I've come to the conclusion that for mission critical work, the T61 is not acceptable. I am looking for an immediate replacement.
     
  2. jd1010

    jd1010 Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe there is something wrong with your notebook. Why don't you try calling lenovo and either have them come take a look at your home or send it in for repair.
     
  3. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I would try reseating your memory sticks. My T60 was blue screening after I added a stick of memory. Got a replacement and all is good.
     
  4. lowlymarine

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    There are approximately about 2.342 billion posts on here about T61s that bluescreen when booted connected to the dock. Try using it without being connected to the docking station - clearly there are driver problems with the dock for now. Other things to try include reseating the RAM, as mentioned, and using software like CoreTemp and (if you have the nVidia card) nVMonitor to watch your temps. Also make sure all of your drivers are up to date - and I mean actually up to date by the manufacturers of the parts (check their websites), not what Lenovo or Windows Update says is up to date.
     
  5. jmwein

    jmwein Notebook Evangelist

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    "2.342 billion posts"...LOL
     
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    wahaha1 Newbie

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    I remember I've got quite frequent blue screen when I used T43. Maybe becoz I've added a bad memory though.
     
  7. colm

    colm Notebook Consultant

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    If you have the memory.dmp file available (C:\Windows\memory.dmp), feel free to email it to me at [email protected] and I'll check it out under a debugger.

    (I hope GMail will allow large attachments)!!
     
  8. Grentz

    Grentz Notebook Evangelist

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    I have been using my T61 like crazy without one bluescreen for the past few days. No dock though, which seems to be a big cause of Bluescreens for users.
     
  9. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

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    try changing SATA to compatibility mode.
    i had to do that to install linux. weird, as it worked with the preinstalled version of vista, but not my vista
     
  10. Leon2245

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    So that was pretty much the majority of the bluescreen incidents- involved docking?

    There have been SO many, guess I didn't notice they had that in common.
     
  11. Sirius_GTO

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    yeah, like he bought a T61?
     
  12. lowlymarine

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    OK, Sirius, I'm all for constructive commentary and maybe even a little bit of schilling for your own personal preferences, but it's comments like that that initiate flame wars. And I've noticed a lot of similar comments, from both sides, recently. I understand everyone's getting frustrated with the waiting and the intermittent QA problems, but for every problem you could identify on the T61, I could come up with one for the D630, or the dv2500t or the MacBook Pro for that matter. If there really were one great notebook to rule them all, then everyone would buy that one and there'd be no competition. But it isn't a black and white issue with this sort of thing, so as both a moderator and a fellow forum member, I'd appreciate it if we could all keep our comments to as constructive a level as possible.
     
  13. Leon2245

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    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    The MEMORY.DMP file is 250 MB. Even gmail won't allow attachments that big. Any other ideas?

    I can't believe that file just sits there and does nothing. That's a quarter of a gig.
     
  15. jjfcpa

    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    I may resort to calling Lenovo, but like you, I've got work to get done and since I've been through the "call support" run-around before, I want to allow plenty of time for, well, "time wasting". I don't expect an easy resolution.
     
  16. Jimco

    Jimco Notebook Consultant

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    That file is actually compressed and uploaded to Microsoft so that you can be notified if a solution is found. Dump files compress very well and you may be able to get it small enough by zipping it.

    I occasionally have a blue screen on my T61 (not dock related) and when I debugged it, iastor.sys was at the top of the faulting stack. If you search for iastor and blue screens, you'll find a ton of hits, and it's not a T61 issue. It's an issue with Intel's driver and Windows Vista. Intel has some workarounds (which involve Registry edits) but they didn't fix it for me. I still get about 2 a week.
     
  17. Playmaker

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    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    "Welcome to blue screen heaven"

    Ahhh! It's quite lovely here!

    Anyway, jjfcpa, have you tried doing a clean install. I realize you shouldn't have to do that, but it has worked for some.
     
  19. Sirius_GTO

    Sirius_GTO Notebook Deity

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    No I wasn't. I really was intending to purchase one.

    I know you can't sense humor from behind the monitor so I apologize for that T61 comment. I think they're beautiful machines and would love to own one give the opportunity.

    ;)

    And that's the truth.

    And yes, I still love my D630!!!
     
  20. Grentz

    Grentz Notebook Evangelist

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    He likes a Dell get him outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ohh, ok, he's alright by me since he has a BMW logo for his avatar.
    Change it though and there will be :realmad:! :p
     
  21. Sirius_GTO

    Sirius_GTO Notebook Deity

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    lol crazy guy.
     
  22. Leon2245

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    I am interested to find out, not only how many bluescreens have coincided with docking, but also with Vista. Apparently the turbo 1gb is a common thread.

    Anyone w/XP experience the bsod on a t61?
     
  23. jjfcpa

    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    Now that you mention it, I remember seeing that files name in the Event log when it blue screened. I think I googled it and found that it was related to turbo memory or some such thing, so I turned off turbo memory a week or so ago. I've still gotten blue screens, but not as many as before.
     
  24. jjfcpa

    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    I've considered it, but that would require me buying a separate copy of Vista, correct? I don't think you can do a clean install with the recovery partition built into to the Thinkpad.

    I will resort to this, only if I have to. I'm kind of waiting to see if it's resolved with new drivers... eventually.
     
  25. jjfcpa

    jjfcpa Notebook Evangelist

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    Don't kick him out of here. Sirius_GTO convinced me to get a D630 (my order finally went through yesterday) so I could see how well behaved it is with Vista. Comparisons and opinions are good.
     
  26. oodsfnsdfz

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    IMHO Intel is not the best company when it comes to driver development. My Fujitsu-Siemens imediatelly would have a BSOD if I would switch on the wireless network card. And not everywhere, but only in Copenhagen airport! LOL. Seriously! Boston, Reykjavik, Aalborg (Denmark), Lithuania, Amsterdam - no problem. University, home network - no problem. Copenhagen - my notebook is dead! :) I have updated the driver, now it looks like it is OK.

    Do you remember the power saving problem with USB and Intel chipset?

    And another thing. I still think that Intel might be the one to blame, when the NB does not boot with some USB devices attached. There was a thread here about a dock issue. The problem was with T61+dock+powered on external disk. I have the same problem with Fujitsu-Siemens+powered USB hub (the notebook is at least 3 years old). Somehow I think again there is problem with Intel product.

    P.S. I don't say that AMD is better, I will still buy Intel notebooks (at least at the moment), but Intel could do a better job here. I know, driver writing is a very hard thing, I wrote one my self, but still, Intel is a big company!
     
  27. deoryp

    deoryp Newbie

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    I was having bluescreen problems, and then my system began a spiral of death until the MBR was messed up and the system could not boot anymore.

    I was all ready to send this heap back to lenovo when i decided to try to run more tests. Turns out that it was just a back stick of memory.

    So any of you having problems, try the system diag stuff in the Thinkvantage boot menu.

    My BSOD was coming from the graphics driver, which makes sense if my memory was bad becasue of the intel shared memory video drivers...
     
  28. Nan Na

    Nan Na Notebook Enthusiast

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    Please refer to this links.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=119587

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=126971&highlight=CLEAN+INSTALL