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    T61 GM965, Vista Business 32-Bit with Regonized 4GB RAM but running on 3GB

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by Mushi, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Mushi

    Mushi Newbie

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    My thinkpad T61 is the very 1st version launched last year.
    T7300 2.0GHZ 2MB cache,
    Intel GM965 Chipset,
    Vista Business 32-Bit,
    etc.

    Recently I've upgraded it to 4GB after my vista business regonized SP1 update and updated it.
    During the startup of computer, the RAM indicated in Bios is 4GB
    In vista business 32-bit, control panel > system, it written Vista Business 32-Bit and it regonize as 4GB RAM.
    However, when I open my task manager, under performance tab, the RAM max indication is 3GB. To my surprise
    where has my 1GB gone to? Previously I've read a few other reviews, saying the max for 32-bit is 3gb while 1 gb will be allocated into intergrated graphics and pci memory.
    However with SP1 surposingly to have fixed the problem, the system does regonize it...but the question of the real performance indicated by task manager is 3gb really intriguing fact. Is this a microsoft scam to us or what?

    My thinkpad is a workstation desktop...None i've seen can work as tough as it is(this is due to the hardware system mind that. Not Lenovo's credit)...I do not off the computer running even after a week most of the time but I take precaution of restarting it for the sake of computer reallignment.

    Other than that, my complains for lenovo thinkpad compared to ibm thinkpad is the physical endurance. Old IBM thinkpad models do has a very very solid casing, when I hold it I do have the confidence. Tight and solid. Sadly lenovo thinkpad doesnt have. I've older ibm thinkpad and comparatively new lenovo thinkpad T61 doesnt give me the confidence to go for a drop. It has became more like any other notebook like dell/toshiba/hp. The Screen casing and the keyboad casing not properely secured.
    The carbon-fibre screen looks nice and classy when purchased. BIGGEST FAILURE NO2 - get your fingernail and run through it, THE SCRATCH REMAINS. MY T61 has full of it now, cause I bring it in my bag along with plugs and etc. This is another biggest failure from lenovo. 1-year old T61 looks like 4/5 years old at 1 glance.
    More to buying the name/brand only now. Not worth praising for the solidility of it. This means buying other notebook is the same. For glamour - get a thinkpad.

    I've accidentally spilt some water last year and the motherboard burnt. Supposingly it's designed to be unpenetratable by small amount of liquid...it's another lenovo failure compared to IBM. The previous one does had some spilt but it's ok. It cause me $500 USD to get it fixed. Could have bought a new one.

    I'm very sad with new Thinkpads. However, this is gorna last me for quite some years. If lenovo doesnt buck-up; sorry. Buying Dell is more worth these days. They can go for quite some physical endurance as well as they have improved the cooling system. Doesnt get heated up easily to be frank.
     
  2. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    That has nothing to do with the build your system.

    32-bit operating systems cannot see more than 3.2GBish of RAM. The BIOS and chipset will see it fine, however, Windows will not see all 4GB.

    So, again, this has nothing to do with your ThinkPad. Any computer running a 32-bit copy of Windows would have this problem.

    As for "build" problems, it sounds like you're simply having bad luck. My ThinkPad is 1 year old, and still looks like new. And I've split coffee on my system, twice, and after letting it dry off, it's been operating without problems for 6+ months. Not to mention dropping it three times.

    While yes, the quality has changed since IBM handed it over to Lenovo, it's not quite as dramatic as you seem to be making it out to be. As a computer repair tech, I've dealt with hundreds of computers in the last few months alone. I've only seen two Lenovo-based ThinkPads, both of which were having hard drive problems which were unrelated to the build of the system.

    /end reply rant.
     
  3. HerrKaputt

    HerrKaputt Elite Notebook User

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    I agree with JM. ANY 32-bit system (XP, Vista, Linux, etc) cannot in any way use more than "3.2GBish" of RAM, any way, any how. It might be able to "see" that you have 4GB of RAM, but will never be able to use it.
     
  4. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    The new Lenovo T61 I've been pretty solid in comparison to the old ones in my opinion. My T41 and T42 got fingerprint all over them, which were difficult to remove, just from looking at them. Every generation has their issues. The graphics cards on the T4x models come loose, the T30s have memory slot issues, etc. I think the old days you're pining for aren't necessarily true. Time will tell what this generation's issues are. The part that sucks about the new ones is they got rid of the FlexView screen option. It was in my opinion one thing that really set them apart from other manufacturers.
     
  5. Mushi

    Mushi Newbie

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    Well, when this motherboard burnt, I've opened the whole T61 for a while
    they have this keyboard hole to drain out the liquid but it's in the middle; the part where i hit with liquid was around the spacebar, alt and windows button;
    when i check what happen, their flaw int his sense is that they have clams making the side of this keyboard penetratable by liquid.
    Instead if they really have a wall on the keyboard, the liquid will not fall. So Lenovo designed the liquid spilt on middle. They had a showcase liquid spilt, not for real..they expect u to pour in the middle
    Question 1 - do u drink coffee right at the middle of the keyboard or do u drink lower after the trackpad area?
     
  6. batman5315

    batman5315 Notebook Evangelist

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    i dont think it matters where you pour the liquid as the keyboard will move it to the drain holes (assuming you pour it on the keyboard, speaker side will probably kill the speakers)

    too much liquid will be a problem though. it cant take more than 60cc at a time
     
  7. gnuh

    gnuh Notebook Consultant

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    does the R series have this feature or it's only for T series?
     
  8. batman5315

    batman5315 Notebook Evangelist

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    i thought almost all thinkpads have this feature. In fact I think its actually an older feature like APS or the thinklight