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    T61 versus X200 screen please advice

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by perfectionseeker, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. perfectionseeker

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    Since I have found out my eyes have a problem with the Lenovo LED screens I will have to settle for a X200 with a CCFL screen. Is that exactly the same dim screen as the T61 series or a bit brighter ? Also I can either choose a 320GB 7200rpm drive or a 500GB 5400 rpm, what is the better option on the X200s (which in Europe has same screen as X200)? Thanks
     
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    I believe the CFFL LCD in the X200 is 200 nits while the T61 can range from 150 to 220 nits depending on the screen. I think the CFFL in the X200s is the same as the one in the X200.
     
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    Hey Zaz thanks. Yes ther X200s CFFL LCD is exactly like the one in the US X200 version. 200 nits seems pretty bright to me, don't really know what the T400 LED screen I have is but cannot be much more. Now I have to find a good deal here in Europe, Holland or UK it is for me. A fully loaded X200 versus a fully loaded X200s. Think the weight of the X200s will still be the deciding factor. May stick with XP instead of Windows 7 since I am not sure if I like what seems to be a new Cleartype version ... fuzzy like Apple at times.
     
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    I think the WXGA+ is 250 nits, which would be about 25% brighter than the X200. The WXGA is the same 200 nits. Then there's the high brightness WXGA on the T400, which is 680 nits.
     
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    Am sure it will be fine... no other option left since the competition just does not measure up in quality and robustness to the Thinkpads. I really need a take anywhere machine and the X200s will have to be it. I am just trying to find one with the CFFL screen now and to get an OK deal. Europe is very expensive.
     
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    Sorry to ask again but the basic T61 which I have ... that would be 150 nits? It's much dimmer than the T400 LED 1280 x 800 ... and also does a 200 nit CCFL screen have the same brightness as the 200 nit LED screen?
     
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    It might help if you told us which T61 you have. The standard screens are 150 nits. The widescreen can range from 180-220 depending on the screen.
     
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    I had two WXGA+ T61s before my current X200. The CCFL screen that came with the X200 was definitely brighter. It was adequate for indoor use and I seldom had it on the highest setting.

    Despite the brightness being fine, the viewing angles were horrible. I followed Zephir's instructions in another thread and retrofitted an aftermarket screen. It is glossy, but easily the best laptop screen I've seen in person.
     
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    Zaz yes I have the standard T61 so must be 150 nits. Spesler, horrible viewing angles do you mean you're constantly having to adjust the screen? I mean I don't really ever change the angle to much since only me is looking at it so don't need it for presentations etc. Glossy cannot do, gives me headaches. Though I did see the Sony x11 has a screen that is not completely matte but also not glossy ...looked nice
     
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    Thats exactly what I mean. Sitting on the sofa with my laptop, I would find myself frequently repositioning the screen to compensate for small changes in my posture. It wasn't so bad that I considered it unusable, and I think a screen that is too dim would be an even bigger problem. Still, it was pretty terrible.

    I also prefer matte screens, but this new one is fantastic. It has very high contrast and really is a joy to use. The viewing angle is essentially perfect - you can see the picture from anywhere that you can see the surface of the LCD itself. I haven't noticed glare being a problem, although I can see my reflection in an all-black scene. Of course, there are other issues with this type of an upgrade, i.e. voiding your warranty.
     
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    This is exactly why I dumped my 14" R60, which was a great notebook in almost all respects, but this is its one fatal flaw. It's viewing angles horizontally were about one maybe two degrees. I found it perfectly acceptable for Office and internet type stuff, but it seemed I could never see the top and bottom halves of my screen at the optimum angle. I had the BOE-Hydis SXGA+, which was supposed to be the best of the three SXGA+ screens offered on the T60/R60. It's too bad as I personally find a 14" SXGA+ notebook to be the perfect blend of size/weight, real estate, performance and portability. On the FlexView I went. My new U150 has a decent sweet spot, but it's glossy, which is annoying at times.
     
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    hey Zaz what about the Ideapad 450 with the matte screen? Seems that truly exists ? Am a bit afraid the new X201 series may not have good screens anyhow.
     
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    Looks like an X200s with the CCFL screen after all ... I just pray since it is a lot of money. maybe I should just get a Samsung N220 netbook since I know I like those screens but 10 inches is really too small for work ... then again I do need to be able to watch some movies on there as well ... will it be a fluke ?