The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    T61p 15.4 inch VS. T61p 14.1 inch

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by razzasizer, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. razzasizer

    razzasizer Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    So, with lenovo coming out with a 14.1 inch model of their much debated T61p, what are the major differences.

    Will the 128 Quadro 570M have a weaker performance than the 256 version available in the 15.4 T61p?

    It appears that the 14.1 T61p is NOT widescreen.

    any thoughts
     
  2. t1mmer

    t1mmer Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The 128mb will be weaker, but not by that much.

    And yes, the 14.1 is not widescreen.
     
  3. JediMunchies

    JediMunchies Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    193
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Basically a smaller form factor, with a weaker video card. The only time you'd feel the pinch is when running intense 3D applications or games. Obviously the extra video ram of the 15.4" T61p will provide an edge in relevant application performance, but I doubt there will be day and night differences elsewhere in the laptop.
     
  4. ponicg

    ponicg Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I agree with JediMunchies... however if you're like me and want to be able to play games on the train, or at your hotel, etc while travelling - the extra 128MB might make a world of difference. Anyone find any practical examples? I looked but haven't. Also, I cry for a 14.1" 1600x1200 :p
     
  5. razzasizer

    razzasizer Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Yea, I would like to play games on it. The 128 and the SXGA are a little discouraging. If it were a WSXGA+ and 256 570M, then I would go for it without thinking.
     
  6. razzasizer

    razzasizer Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Im just wondering, will the 128 downgrade effect the 3dMark score?
     
  7. Kebs

    Kebs Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    62
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    uh. wouldn't the 128 be weaker by oh... about half as much?

    ram size across the same family of cards is always the determining factor of performance isn't it?
     
  8. t1mmer

    t1mmer Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I think the apple dudes have had this conversation, becasue one version of the MBP has a 128mb 8600gt and the other has the 256mb 8600gt.
     
  9. t1mmer

    t1mmer Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  10. ponicg

    ponicg Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    74
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    It's SXGA+ aka 14.1" 1400x1050. The standard 14.1" we've grown to love...
     
  11. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

    Reputations:
    479
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Of course the 128mb 570m is going to be much weaker than the 256mb 570m.

    I'd be more interested in know how much difference there is between the 128mb 570M and the 128mg 140M. (Besides 430 "M"s :p)
     
  12. t1mmer

    t1mmer Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The 140m is based on the 8400M, whereas the 570m is based on the 8600m.
     
  13. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

    Reputations:
    479
    Messages:
    1,737
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Ok so now that is a difference of 200 "M"s :p Do you know the difference in 3DMark scores?
     
  14. t1mmer

    t1mmer Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    In Andrews review of the Dell XPS M1330, the 8400GS (which is close to the 140m) got a 3dMark06 score of 1408. 3dMark06 scores for 128mb 8600GT (which is close to the 570m) according to the Mac people are about 2850. This is with the resolution of 1280 x 800, which is what I'm assuming Andrew took the benchmarks on with the M1330 (native res is 1280x800).



    But benchmarks dont mean that much.
     
  15. Enki

    Enki Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Same sxga 150 nits 200:1 contrast ratio screen as the normal T61 4:3 laptop? And no internal camera?
     
  16. Playmaker

    Playmaker Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    266
    Messages:
    1,534
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Your "as a matter of fact" tone is ........oh.....quite disturbing considering that it only highlights your lack of knowledge regarding computers. This also goes for a comment you made before about dual core cpu's being mathematically 2x as fast as their single core counterparts.

    Most games do not even use up all the 128mb of bandwith on video cards, so 256mb would not be that much better. For some games, certainly 256mb will help, but nowhere twice as fast. Video cards with 512mb and up are just excessive.
     
  17. amuraivel

    amuraivel Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    17
    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It is pretty lame for the "p" version to only have 128MB--it will not make much of a thermal difference because they are already putting an 8600 card in the chassis, and this notebook can already be purchased as the T61 CTO with the card.